Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
truth_n church_n doctrine_n teach_v 6,712 5 6.4919 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A80339 Confidence corrected, error detected, and truth defended; or Some farther reflections upon the two Athenian Mercuries lately publish'd about infant-baptism. By Philalethes Pasiphilus. Pasiphilus, Philalethes. 1692 (1692) Wing C5803A; ESTC R223470 47,010 51

There are 4 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

let_v it_o be_v as_o old_a as_o it_o will_v it_o be_v never_o the_o better_a for_o that_o but_o indeed_o the_o worse_a for_o that_o only_o serve_v to_o prove_v it_o a_o old_a overgrow_a error_n as_o old_a as_o it_o be_v it_o be_v not_o old_a enough_o to_o be_v truth_n because_o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o so_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o talk_v of_o antiquity_n all_o the_o while_o you_o want_v the_o true_a ground_n thereof_o for_o if_o that_o be_v want_v all_o your_o talk_n of_o antiquity_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v a_o argument_n for_o it_o that_o it_o be_v clear_o a_o argument_n against_o it_o for_o if_o it_o be_v very_o old_a and_o of_o a_o long_a stand_n and_o yet_o not_o old_a enough_o to_o be_v truth_n it_o be_v high_a time_n for_o we_o even_o for_o that_o reason_n to_o reject_v and_o explode_v it_o with_o indignation_n as_o a_o learned_a church_n of_o england_n doctor_n well_o observe_v and_o direct_v speak_v of_o old_a popish_a pretension_n when_o they_o obtrude_v say_v he_o their_o revelation_n or_o teach_v for_o doctrine_n of_o god_n the_o commandment_n of_o man_n we_o must_v ask_v they_o every_o one_o how_o they_o read_v in_o the_o beginning_n we_o may_v not_o draw_v out_o of_o their_o ditch_n be_v the_o current_n never_o so_o long_o whilst_o we_o have_v water_n of_o our_o own_o of_o a_o noble_a taste_n which_o we_o can_v easy_o trace_v back_o to_o the_o crystal_n spring_n etc._n etc._n the_o next_o question_v you_o undertake_v to_o answer_n be_v whether_o infant-baptism_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n your_o answer_n be_v not_o express_o in_o the_o letter_n but_o from_o necessary_a and_o unavoidable_a consequence_n as_o say_v you_o we_o have_v already_o show_v etc._n etc._n now_o gentleman_n if_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o your_o answer_n here_o be_v but_o as_o true_a as_o the_o former_a be_v i_o shall_v very_o ready_o give_v you_o the_o case_n and_o dispute_v no_o more_o for_o i_o be_o clear_o of_o the_o opinion_n that_o whatsoever_o be_v true_o prove_v by_o necessary_a and_o unavoidable_a consequence_n from_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_o prove_v as_o you_o say_v to_o all_o disintere_v person_n but_o the_o misery_n of_o it_o be_v we_o can_v never_o yet_o see_v these_o necessary_a and_o unavoidable_a consequence_n but_o your_o consequence_n be_v all_o so_o grievous_a sick_a of_o one_o distemper_n or_o another_o that_o all_o the_o doctor_n in_o christendom_n will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o make_v they_o sound_v and_o this_o we_o have_v pretty_a well_o find_v by_o your_o consequence_n hitherto_o produce_v unto_o which_o i_o refer_v have_v not_o now_o time_n to_o repeat_v beside_o gentleman_n if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o infant-baptism_n to_o be_v find_v express_o in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o scripture_n i_o can_v ready_o understand_v how_o you_o can_v come_v by_o those_o necessary_a and_o unavoidable_a consequence_n you_o talk_v of_o for_o though_o it_o be_v true_a you_o may_v lay_v down_o a_o proposition_n in_o such_o term_n as_o can_v be_v prove_v verbatim_o from_o scripture_n and_o yet_o i_o confess_v it_o may_v be_v well_o enough_o prove_v from_o very_o good_a consequence_n but_o if_o there_o be_v nothing_o at_o all_o express_o in_o scripture_n about_o it_o not_o one_o word_n in_o the_o letter_n concern_v it_o i_o be_o afraid_a you_o must_v be_v content_a to_o go_v without_o those_o necessary_a and_o unavoidable_a consequence_n sir_n will_v you_o say_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n or_o three_o in_o one_o to_o be_v find_v express_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v there_o nothing_o express_o of_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n or_o of_o his_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n if_o there_o be_v not_o for_o my_o part_n i_o know_v no_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n they_o shall_v be_v receive_v for_o such_o great_a and_o orthodox_n truth_n but_o if_o there_o be_v what_o strange_a man_n be_v you_o to_o talk_v at_o this_o extravagant_a rate_n as_o if_o the_o scripture_n speak_v nothing_o express_o about_o these_o matter_n and_o how_o bold_o do_v you_o insinuate_v and_o endeavour_v to_o make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v at_o least_o altogether_o as_o plain_a in_o scripture_n as_o christ_n be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o that_o altogether_o as_o dark_a and_o as_o hard_o to_o be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n as_o infant-baptism_n now_o sir_n this_o insinuation_n be_v either_o true_a or_o false_a if_o false_a do_v you_o deserve_v to_o be_v severe_o correct_v for_o such_o imperious_a trick_n but_o if_o you_o stand_v by_o it_o and_o say_v it_o be_v true_a how_o do_v you_o think_v you_o will_v come_v off_o if_o we_o shall_v join_v issue_n with_o you_o about_o it_o and_o bring_v the_o matter_n to_o a_o trial_n but_o i_o confess_v i_o have_v be_v so_o large_a hitherto_o beyond_o my_o first_o thought_n or_o intention_n that_o i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o to_o this_o at_o present_a and_o not_o much_o to_o what_o remain_v there_o be_v no_o less_o than_o three_o question_n follow_v which_o you_o undertake_v to_o answer_v which_o i_o reckon_v so_o inconsiderable_a and_o insignificant_a both_o question_n and_o answer_n that_o i_o count_v it_o not_o worth_a my_o while_n to_o spend_v one_o line_n about_o they_o i_o therefore_o purposely_o omit_v they_o time_n be_v precious_a with_o i_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o something_o else_o which_o i_o judge_v more_o worthy_a to_o be_v note_v wherefore_o i_o wave_v the_o four_o six_o and_o seven_o question_n and_o pass_v on_o to_o the_o eight_o and_o shall_v take_v some_o small_a notice_n of_o the_o five_o last_o of_o all_o and_o so_o draw_v to_o a_o conclusion_n the_o eight_o and_o last_o question_v you_o undertake_v to_o answer_v run_v thus_o whether_o child_n have_v faith_n or_o no_o since_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v pre-requisite_a to_o baptism_n to_o which_o you_o answer_v and_o say_v that_o you_o have_v already_o show_v that_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o commission_n baptise_v go_v before_o teach_v therefore_o there_o be_v no_o such_o prerequisiteness_a as_o some_o dream_n of_o etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n i_o tell_v you_o plain_o this_o be_v a_o mere_a idle_a swagger_n for_o you_o have_v show_v no_o such_o matter_n but_o the_o contrary_n do_v most_o evident_o appear_v therefore_o there_o be_v a_o great_a prerequisiteness_a of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n than_o you_o dream_v of_o why_o you_o refer_v we_o to_o act_n 9_o and_o tell_v we_o our_o saviour_n be_v bear_v king_n of_o the_o jew_n i_o can_v imagine_v i_o wish_v i_o do_v but_o know_v your_o inference_n but_o you_o say_v further_o admit_v faith_n as_o pre-requisite_a to_o baptism_n you_o can_v answer_v that_o child_n have_v faith_n potentia_fw-la though_o not_o in_o actu_fw-la visibili_fw-la as_o a_o artist_n when_o he_o be_v indispose_v or_o asleep_a be_v potential_o a_o artist_n though_o not_o actual_o sir_n it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n that_o you_o mere_o speak_v what_o you_o listen_v not_o know_v what_o you_o say_v nor_o whereof_o you_o affirm_v what_o be_v it_o that_o you_o may_v not_o say_v infant_n have_v and_o be_v if_o this_o kind_n of_o talk_n be_v allow_v you_o for_o good_a whatsoever_o you_o have_v a_o mind_n your_o infant_n shall_v have_v or_o be_v put_v but_o potentia_fw-la to_o it_o and_o it_o be_v do_v what_o if_o you_o have_v be_v in_o the_o humour_n to_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o infant_n have_v the_o greek_a tongue_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o oriental_a language_n and_o be_v as_o good_a preacher_n as_o any_o in_o the_o world_n potentia_fw-la though_o not_o in_o actu_fw-la visibili_fw-la as_o a_o artist_n when_o he_o be_v a-sleep_o be_v potential_o a_o artist_n though_o not_o actual_o can_v you_o have_v expect_v that_o any_o body_n in_o their_o wit_n shall_v have_v regard_v you_o and_o why_o not_o in_o this_o i_o marvel_v as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o other_o beside_o sir_n what_o can_v you_o mean_v by_o child_n have_a faith_n potentia_fw-la you_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o they_o do_v actual_o and_o visible_o believe_v no_o by_o no_o mean_n that_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v well_o but_o what_o then_o do_v you_o mean_v for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v it_o be_v partly_o the_o same_o thing_n at_o if_o you_o have_v tell_v we_o only_o that_o they_o have_v power_n may_v strength_n and_o ability_n to_o believe_v but_o yet_o whatever_o the_o matter_n be_v they_o do_v not_o believe_v notwithstanding_o this_o potency_n of_o believe_v they_o neither_o do_v nor_o can_v make_v any_o improvement_n of_o it_o so_o as_o to_o do_v the_o thing_n and_o if_o this_o be_v true_a good_a now_o what_o be_v it_o you_o talk_v of_o
consequence_n for_o by_o this_o rule_n moses_n may_v have_v baptise_a infant_n as_o well_o as_o you_o if_o a_o bare_a be_v in_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n be_v sufficient_a to_o warrant_v the_o practice_n however_o sir_n he_o may_v have_v circumcise_a they_o the_o first_o second_o or_o three_o day_n after_o they_o be_v bear_v as_o well_o as_o to_o have_v stay_v till_o the_o eight_o day_n for_o certain_o they_o be_v as_o holy_a and_o as_o much_o in_o the_o covenant_n and_o as_o fit_v for_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o first_o or_o second_o day_n as_o they_o be_v the_o eight_o and_o what_o be_v the_o reason_n think_v you_o that_o he_o do_v not_o he_o may_v also_o have_v circumcise_a female_n if_o this_o have_v be_v good_a reason_v for_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n to_o be_v make_v but_o they_o be_v holy_a and_o in_o the_o covenant_n and_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v save_v as_o well_o as_o the_o male_n but_o if_o he_o have_v do_v so_o will_v he_o not_o think_v you_o have_v be_v a_o transgressor_n rather_o than_o a_o faithful_a servant_n yet_o he_o may_v have_v take_v up_o your_o plea_n and_o defend_v himself_o altogether_o as_o well_o as_o you_o do_v or_o can_v in_o the_o business_n of_o infant-baptism_n but_o it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n he_o do_v not_o like_o this_o argument_n but_o sir_n you_o ought_v to_o remember_v that_o the_o will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o god_n aught_o in_o a_o special_a manner_n to_o be_v heed_v in_o all_o such_o case_n for_o it_o be_v the_o command_n of_o god_n that_o give_v life_n and_o be_v to_o all_o duty_n without_o which_o all_o your_o allegation_n be_v in_o vain_a with_o which_o we_o shall_v glad_o cease_v to_o contend_v and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o infant_n be_v circumcise_a precise_o upon_o the_o eight_o day_n either_o before_o or_o after_o will_v certain_o have_v incur_v displeasure_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o keep_v female_n from_o circumcision_n though_o holy_a and_o in_o covenant_n as_o well_o as_o male_n nay_o if_o christ_n have_v not_o command_v believer_n to_o be_v baptise_a their_o be_v believer_n will_v not_o have_v justify_v the_o practice_n neither_o will_v it_o now_o justify_v any_o other_o practice_n that_o he_o never_o command_v or_o appoint_v to_o be_v do_v beside_o sir_n do_v you_o not_o herein_o sin_n because_o grace_n abound_v for_o be_v god_n so_o good_a and_o gracious_a as_o to_o place_v our_o infant_n in_o covenant_n with_o himself_o must_v we_o therefore_o take_v the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n in_o vain_a and_o sprinkle_v water_n upon_o their_o face_n as_o if_o we_o suppose_v the_o covenant_n worth_n nothing_o unless_o we_o confirm_v it_o with_o our_o own_o invention_n and_o clap_v a_o seal_n to_o it_o of_o our_o own_o make_n without_o any_o order_n from_o he_o so_o to_o do_v sir_n if_o infant_n be_v in_o covenant_n be_v content_a there_o to_o let_v they_o rest_n without_o disturb_v or_o interrupt_v they_o in_o it_o be_v content_a with_o that_o till_o you_o be_v able_a to_o make_v they_o sensible_a of_o the_o obligation_n that_o may_v lie_v upon_o they_o by_o virtue_n thereof_o to_o discharge_v duty_n towards_o god_n i_o have_v only_o two_o demand_n to_o make_v and_o then_o i_o shall_v leave_v this_o to_o consideration_n first_o pray_v sir_n tell_v we_o do_v you_o think_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n do_v not_o know_v as_o much_o of_o this_o nature_n concern_v infant_n as_o you_o do_v do_v you_o think_v they_o be_v not_o as_o well_o acquaint_v with_o their_o be_v holy_a and_o in_o the_o covenant_n and_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v save_v as_o you_o be_v i_o hope_v as_o learned_a as_o you_o be_v you_o will_v hardly_o venture_v to_o say_v they_o do_v not_o yet_o where_o do_v christ_n or_o any_o of_o his_o apostle_n give_v either_o command_n or_o permission_n to_o any_o body_n to_o baptise_v their_o infant_n upon_o any_o of_o these_o account_n where_o be_v thou_o the_o least_o sign_n or_o shadow_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n in_o all_o the_o new-testament_n if_o you_o know_v of_o any_o pray_v produce_v it_o and_o let_v we_o see_v it_o that_o we_o may_v read_v and_o understand_v such_o a_o thing_n as_o well_o as_o yourselves_o and_o in_o so_o do_v the_o controversy_n will_v soon_o be_v end_v but_o if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n signify_v if_o you_o shall_v argue_v and_o write_v for_o three_o seven_o year_n together_o what_o be_v it_o all_o worth_n unless_o you_o bring_v scripture-warrant_a for_o what_o you_o affirm_v and_o practice_v my_o second_o demand_n upon_o this_o account_n be_v as_o follow_v suppose_v all_o these_o thing_n to_o be_v unquestionable_o true_a that_o you_o talk_v of_o that_o infant_n be_v in_o the_o covenant_n holy_a and_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v save_v and_o what_o you_o please_v of_o that_o kind_n how_o come_v this_o to_o entitle_v they_o any_o more_o to_o baptism_n than_o it_o do_v to_o the_o lord's-supper_n what_o be_v the_o reason_n i_o beseech_v you_o you_o do_v not_o receive_v they_o to_o the_o lord_n table_n upon_o these_o account_n as_o well_o as_o admit_v they_o to_o baptism_n be_v you_o able_a to_o give_v we_o a_o instance_n in_o all_o the_o new-testament_n of_o any_o that_o be_v accept_v as_o fit_a subject_n of_o baptism_n and_o at_o the_o same_o time_n as_o such_o reckon_v and_o know_v to_o be_v unfit_a for_o and_o uncapable_a of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n i_o marvel_v sir_n what_o you_o make_v of_o baptism_n that_o you_o shall_v think_v infant_n so_o fit_o and_o full_o qualify_v for_o that_o and_o yet_o dare_v not_o venture_v to_o plead_v either_o right_o or_o obligation_n to_o any_o other_o gospel-duty_n be_v not_o baptism_n a_o gospel-requirement_a as_o well_o as_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o command_n of_o christ_n a_o ordinance_n of_o heaven_n and_o part_n of_o that_o service_n and_o obedience_n which_o christian_n owe_v to_o god_n in_o and_o under_o the_o gospel_n and_o do_v you_o think_v it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v do_v with_o more_o knowledge_n judgement_n and_o reverence_n than_o infant_n of_o seven_o day_n old_a be_v capable_a of_o what_o subjection_n or_o obedience_n to_o god_n be_v there_o or_o can_v there_o be_v in_o a_o little_a infant_n in_o the_o performance_n of_o that_o which_o you_o call_v its_o baptism_n when_o it_o know_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o the_o thing_n command_v nor_o of_o the_o lawgiver_n command_v nor_o any_o reason_n in_o the_o world_n why_o it_o shall_v or_o shall_v not_o submit_v neither_o be_v it_o capable_a of_o think_v either_o well_o or_o ill_o concern_v any_o thing_n relate_v thereunto_o how_o then_o can_v it_o be_v do_v as_o a_o duty_n in_o obedience_n to_o christ_n as_o the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n towards_o god_n when_o the_o subject_n know_v nothing_o of_o these_o thing_n and_o be_v altogether_o uncapable_a of_o the_o least_o motive_n to_o subjection_n but_o if_o you_o say_v infant_n must_v notwithstanding_o all_o this_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n certain_o you_o must_v needs_o wrong_v they_o great_o in_o debar_v they_o from_o the_o lord_n supper_n gentleman_n these_o thing_n deserve_v to_o be_v well_o consider_v and_o then_o take_v advice_n and_o speak_v your_o mind_n as_o to_o what_o you_o say_v about_o universal_a consent_n of_o church_n and_o antiquity_n for_o infant-baptism_n i_o shall_v not_o so_o much_o as_o concern_v myself_o to_o inquire_v after_o the_o truth_n or_o falsehood_n of_o the_o matter_n because_o let_v it_o be_v true_a or_o false_a all_o the_o while_o it_o be_v scriptureless_a there_o be_v not_o the_o weight_n of_o a_o feather_n in_o it_o it_o neither_o hurt_v we_o nor_o help_v you_o in_o this_o case_n for_o what_o do_v all_o the_o consent_v you_o talk_v of_o signify_v unless_o you_o can_v clear_o prove_v the_o thing_n consent_v to_o to_o be_v truth_n without_o it_o and_o if_o you_o can_v than_o you_o have_v no_o need_n of_o its_o help_n but_o if_o you_o can_v it_o have_v no_o help_n for_o you_o for_o it_o be_v not_o the_o great_a consent_n imaginable_a that_o can_v make_v a_o falsehood_n truth_n it_o must_v either_o be_v truth_n previous_a to_o that_o consent_n or_o else_o it_o remain_v a_o falsehood_n notwithstanding_o that_o consent_n the_o consent_n itself_o can_v be_v no_o argument_n to_o prove_v it_o truth_n so_o that_o all_o that_o appear_v from_o this_o argument_n if_o all_o that_o you_o say_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v unquestionable_o true_a be_v only_o this_o that_o a_o great_a many_o people_n a_o great_a while_n ago_o hold_v infant-baptism_n but_o whether_o they_o do_v well_o or_o ill_o in_o so_o do_v still_o remain_v the_o question_n as_o much_o as_o ever_o and_o if_o it_o want_v the_o true_a primitive_a mark_n of_o antiquity_n
when_o you_o say_v infant_n have_v faith_n potentia_fw-la and_o yet_o if_o they_o have_v power_n and_o ability_n to_o do_v it_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v their_o sin_n if_o they_o do_v it_o not_o so_o that_o our_o have_v great_a plea_n for_o infant_n seem_v to_o prove_v a_o very_a fatal_a charge_n against_o they_o for_o the_o damn_v sin_n of_o wilful_a unbelief_n must_v needs_o lie_v upon_o they_o if_o they_o have_v strength_n may_v and_o ability_n to_o believe_v and_o make_v no_o use_n of_o it_o to_o act_v according_o moreover_o what_o reason_n have_v you_o to_o conclude_v any_o man_n to_o be_v a_o artist_n though_o but_o potential_o so_o when_o you_o see_v he_o asleep_o if_o you_o never_o see_v nor_o know_v any_o thing_n at_o all_o of_o his_o be_v a_o artist_n before_o if_o he_o have_v be_v asleep_o all_o the_o day_n of_o his_o life_n you_o will_v have_v have_v small_a cause_n to_o have_v count_v he_o a_o artist_n though_o you_o have_v put_v the_o word_n potentia_fw-la to_o it_o but_o now_o infant_n have_v to_o follow_v your_o simile_n be_v asleep_o all_o their_o life-time_n in_o this_o case_n you_o never_o so_o much_o as_o see_v or_o know_v of_o a_o time_n when_o they_o be_v so_o far_o awake_a as_o to_o show_v themselves_o believer_n as_o the_o artist_n be_v to_o show_v himself_o and_o artist_n so_o that_o as_o you_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o conclude_v any_o man_n to_o be_v a_o artist_n potential_o when_o asleep_a that_o you_o never_o know_v to_o be_v any_o thing_n of_o a_o artist_n actual_o at_o one_o time_n or_o another_o before_o so_o you_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o conclude_v infant_n believer_n potential_o unless_o you_o have_v see_v or_o know_v they_o at_o one_o time_n or_o another_o to_o have_v be_v actual_o such_o so_o that_o i_o think_v you_o have_v as_o good_a blot_n out_o potentia_fw-la unless_o you_o will_v put_v it_o to_o their_o baptism_n too_o and_o let_v your_o child_n rest_v without_o actual_a baptism_n till_o you_o can_v write_v upon_o their_o faith_n actu_fw-la visibili_fw-la but_o you_o say_v our_o saviour_n be_v full_a to_o the_o purpose_n who_o assure_v we_o as_o you_o tell_v we_o in_o your_o second_o that_o child_n have_v faith_n when_o he_o say_v whosoever_o shall_v offend_v one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o which_o believe_v in_o i_o etc._n etc._n sir_n i_o do_v plain_o confess_v that_o our_o saviour_n be_v full_a to_o the_o purpose_n but_o not_o to_o your_o purpose_n for_o he_o do_v assure_v we_o that_o the_o person_n here_o speak_v of_o be_v such_o as_o do_v real_o proper_o and_o actual_o believe_v in_o he_o he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o intimate_v any_o thing_n of_o their_o have_a faith_n potentia_fw-la but_o not_o in_o actu_fw-la visibili_fw-la but_o in_o downright_a term_n tell_v we_o they_o be_v such_o as_o do_v believe_v in_o he_o which_o little_a infant_n i_o think_v by_o your_o own_o confession_n can_v do_v therefore_o little_a infant_n not_o here_o intend_v by_o our_o saviour_n in_o this_o passage_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v and_o become_v as_o little_a child_n in_o plainness_n of_o spirit_n humbleness_n innocency_n and_o freedom_n from_o malice_n our_o saviour_n do_v not_o only_o assure_v we_o that_o such_o shall_v be_v great_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n but_o also_o plain_o tell_v we_o that_o whosoever_o shall_v offend_v or_o scandalize_v one_o of_o these_o thus_o convert_v little_a one_o which_o believe_v in_o he_o shall_v certain_o incur_v great_a displeasure_n from_o god_n and_o this_o be_v easy_o discern_v with_o a_o little_a consideration_n in_o read_v the_o text_n and_o coherence_n of_o the_o same_o that_o after_o our_o saviour_n have_v call_v a_o little_a child_n and_o teach_v his_o disciple_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v convert_v and_o become_v as_o little_a child_n and_o humble_v themselves_o as_o that_o little_a child_n he_o under_o that_o consideration_n give_v the_o denomination_n of_o little_a one_o even_o to_o such_o as_o shall_v so_o learn_v and_o so_o do_v which_o do_v true_o believe_v in_o he_o from_o that_o analogy_n that_o be_v and_o ought_v to_o be_v between_o little_a child_n and_o they_o therefore_o whereas_o you_o argue_v thus_o or_o to_o this_o purpose_n these_o little_o one_o which_o believe_v in_o i_o therefore_o infant_n do_v believe_v i_o argue_v the_o direct_a contrary_n from_o the_o same_o text_n thus_o those_o of_o who_o christ_n here_o speak_v do_v real_o believe_v in_o he_o but_o little_a infant_n neither_o do_v nor_o can_v believe_v in_o christ_n ergo_fw-la christ_n speak_v not_o here_o of_o little_a infant_n to_o prove_v the_o minor_a here_o i_o thus_o reason_n faith_n in_o christ_n come_v by_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n understand_o but_o little_a infant_n can_v hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n understand_o ergo_fw-la little_a infant_n can_v be_v believer_n in_o christ_n again_o if_o little_a infant_n neither_o do_v good_a or_o evil_n nor_o so_o much_o a_o know_v good_a or_o evil_n than_o they_o can_v neither_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n understand_o for_o if_o they_o can_v they_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v capable_a of_o know_v good_a nor_o be_v believer_n in_o christ_n for_o if_o they_o be_v they_o must_v of_o necessity_n do_v good_a for_o believe_v in_o christ_n be_v one_o of_o the_o best_a thing_n that_o can_v be_v do_v in_o the_o world_n but_o the_o scripture_n itself_o beside_o experience_n plain_o tell_v we_o concern_v infant_n that_o they_o neither_o do_v good_a or_o evil_a nor_o know_v good_a or_o evil_n ergo_fw-la rom._n 9.11_o deut._n 1.39_o isa_n 7.14_o 15_o 16._o see_v the_o assembly_n annotation_n on_o this_o passage_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o reverend_a diodate_v on_o the_o same_o see_v also_o these_o scripture_n where_o this_o phrase_n little_a one_o or_o little_a child_n be_v use_v to_o grow_v believer_n and_o disciple_n of_o christ_n mat._n 10.41_o 42._o joh._n 21.5_o gal._n 4.19_o 1_o joh._n 2.1_o 12_o 13_o 18_o 28._o &_o 3.7_o 18._o &_o 4.4_o &_o 5.21_o beside_o gentleman_n if_o you_o must_v and_o will_v have_v little_a infant_n here_o intend_v than_o it_o must_v and_o will_v of_o necessity_n be_v but_o a_o prosopopoeia_fw-la however_o and_o so_o do_v you_o no_o service_n at_o all_o though_o we_o shall_v out_o of_o charity_n give_v you_o what_o you_o so_o earnest_o beg_v for_o a_o few_o word_n to_o your_o answer_n to_o the_o five_o question_n and_o so_o i_o draw_v to_o a_o conclusion_n the_o question_n be_v only_o thus_o why_o sprinkle_v and_o not_o dip_v to_o which_o you_o answer_v and_o say_v our_o church_n deny_v not_o the_o latter_a to_o any_o one_o that_o desire_v it_o but_o look_n upon_o it_o as_o a_o clear_a representation_n of_o our_o saviour_n descend_v into_o the_o grave_a abide_v there_o and_o rise_v up_o again_o according_a as_o the_o apostle_n make_v use_v of_o it_o when_o he_o say_v we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n sir_n it_o be_v a_o clear_a case_n that_o dip_v or_o cover_v the_o body_n under_o water_n be_v the_o true_a primitive_a apostolical_a and_o scriptural_a way_n of_o baptise_v and_o you_o and_o your_o church_n both_o seem_v plain_o to_o be_v convince_v of_o the_o truth_n hereof_o by_o this_o free_a and_o full_a confession_n and_o acknowledgement_n which_o here_o you_o make_v that_o it_o be_v a_o clear_a representation_n of_o our_o saviour_n descend_v into_o the_o grave_a abide_v there_o and_o rise_v up_o again_o and_o this_o you_o deliver_v not_o as_o a_o conceit_n that_o may_v come_v into_o a_o man_n brain_n by_o chance_n no_o but_o it_o be_v very_o serious_o give_v we_o as_o a_o thing_n by_o your_o own_o acknowledgement_n which_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n as_o the_o apostle_n himself_o make_v use_v of_o it_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n now_o sir_n stand_v by_o this_o and_o all_o be_v well_o but_o if_o you_o will_v be_v so_o unfaithful_a as_o to_o dissert_v these_o true_a primitive_a colour_n you_o certain_o run_v away_o from_o truth_n and_o substance_n to_o close_o with_o falsehood_n and_o vanity_n for_o either_o this_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n which_o you_o have_v here_o venture_v to_o give_v we_o or_o it_o be_v not_o if_o it_o be_v not_o wherefore_o do_v you_o urge_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n not_o only_o acceptable_a to_o you_o and_o your_o church_n but_o even_o acceptable_a to_o god_n himself_o as_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n if_o it_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n what_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o you_o tattle_n of_o a_o dispense_n power_n in_o your_o church_n with_o respect_n to_o this_o matter_n as_o if_o the_o mind_n of_o god_n be_v altogether_o insignificant_a with_o you_o that_o let_v god_n command_v what_o he_o please_v you_o will_v be_v so_o stately_a
where_o the_o apostle_n plain_o tell_v we_o that_o here_o while_o we_o walk_v by_o faith_n we_o walk_v not_o by_o sight_n imply_v that_o while_o faith_n continue_v sight_n be_v absent_a consequent_o when_o sight_n come_v faith_n disappear_v though_o it_o be_v true_a here_o whilst_o we_o be_v in_o the_o body_n we_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o see_v he_o that_o be_v invisible_a must_v needs_o now_o be_v a_o act_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o the_o text_n you_o quote_v heb._n 11.27_o but_o the_o time_n will_v come_v when_o faith_n will_v be_v turn_v into_o vision_n and_o promise_v which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n into_o fruition_n which_o be_v the_o end_n of_o faith_n when_o we_o shall_v see_v face_n to_o face_n see_v he_o as_o he_o be_v and_o know_v as_o we_o be_v know_v 1_o cor._n 13.12_o 1_o joh._n 3.2_o so_o that_o it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v evident_a that_o infant_n have_v or_o shall_v have_v faith_n in_o heaven_n that_o it_o be_v at_o least_o a_o very_a great_a question_n whether_o such_o a_o thing_n can_v fair_o be_v say_v of_o the_o great_a actual_a believer_n in_o the_o world_n but_o further_a suppose_v we_o shall_v give_v you_o the_o premise_n and_o grant_v you_o that_o infant_n may_v have_v faith_n in_o heaven_n your_o conclusion_n be_v not_o a_o little_a to_o be_v admire_v or_o rather_o yourselves_o for_o your_o strange_a skill_n in_o theological_a logic_n sir_n do_v you_o indeed_o look_v upon_o this_o to_o be_v good_a reason_v that_o because_o a_o thing_n be_v or_o may_v be_v thus_o or_o so_o in_o heaven_n therefore_o it_o be_v and_o must_v be_v so_o here_o on_o earth_n if_o you_o do_v not_o why_o do_v you_o talk_v at_o this_o extravagant_a rate_n and_o endeavour_v to_o impose_v that_o upon_o other_o which_o you_o do_v not_o believe_v yourselves_o if_o you_o do_v i_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o all_o the_o wit_n i_o have_v be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o discover_v the_o greatness_n of_o your_o folly_n yet_o take_v a_o taste_n however_o in_o heaven_n the_o saint_n shall_v be_v whole_o free_v from_o all_o sin_n sorrow_n and_o trouble_n of_o what_o nature_n soever_o ergo_fw-la why_o not_o so_o here_o on_o earth_n in_o heaven_n saint_n shall_v be_v immortal_a ergo_fw-la why_o not_o so_o here_o on_o earth_n in_o heaven_n the_o now_o vile_a body_n of_o saint_n shall_v be_v change_v and_o be_v make_v like_o unto_o the_o glorious_a body_n of_o christ_n ergo_fw-la why_o not_o so_o here_o on_o earth_n with_o much_o more_o of_o this_o nature_n certain_o sir_n there_o be_v none_o can_v ever_o have_v think_v you_o so_o preposterous_o ridiculous_a if_o you_o have_v not_o yourselves_o proclaim_v it_o upon_o the_o housetop_n what_o a_o strange_a thing_n it_o be_v that_o man_n so_o manifest_o weak_a shall_v yet_o be_v so_o conceited_o strong_a as_o to_o suppose_v themselves_o able_a to_o answer_v all_o the_o question_n argument_n and_o objection_n that_o can_v be_v send_v they_o from_o the_o people_n call_v anabaptist_n but_o i_o hope_v you_o may_v yet_o live_v to_o see_v your_o vanity_n and_o so_o get_v into_o the_o road_n of_o learning_n more_o wisdom_n three_o i_o can_v but_o note_n how_o strange_o sometime_o you_o abuse_v your_o antagonist_n in_o ask_v they_o such_o kind_n of_o question_n as_o imply_v a_o absurdity_n in_o they_o when_o they_o be_v no_o more_o concern_v in_o the_o question_n than_o yourselves_o as_o for_o instance_n you_o very_o reprehensive_o ask_v they_o how_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n can_v put_v the_o child_n further_o off_o from_o god_n and_o how_o child_n can_v lose_v by_o christ_n come_v who_o come_v to_o take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n now_o will_v not_o any_o body_n be_v apt_a to_o think_v that_o the_o baptist_n must_v needs_o hold_v the_o affirmative_a here_o in_o both_o these_o question_n or_o else_o you_o must_v needs_o be_v very_o impertinent_a and_o injurious_a to_o they_o thus_o unworthy_o to_o insinuate_v now_o sir_n i_o challenge_v you_o to_o give_v a_o instance_n if_o you_o can_v of_o any_o among_o the_o baptist_n that_o ever_o tell_v you_o either_o in_o word_n or_o write_n that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n put_v the_o child_n further_o off_o from_o god_n or_o that_o child_n lose_v any_o thing_n by_o the_o come_v of_o christ_n for_o certain_o either_o you_o do_v know_v of_o some_o such_o or_o you_o do_v not_o if_o you_o do_v you_o ought_v to_o put_v it_o out_o of_o question_n for_o your_o own_o vindication_n and_o then_o i_o shall_v reckon_v they_o as_o weak_a in_o that_o as_o you_o be_v in_o some_o other_o thing_n but_o if_o you_o know_v of_o none_o such_o what_o shame_n ought_v you_o to_o take_v to_o yourselves_o for_o thus_o disingenuous_o misrepresent_v your_o antagonist_n to_o the_o world_n as_o if_o those_o very_a thing_n be_v the_o question_n in_o debate_n betwixt_o you_o in_o the_o last_o place_n i_o shall_v take_v a_o little_a notice_n what_o a_o strange_a faculty_n there_o be_v general_o in_o you_o pedobaptist_n of_o fawn_a one_o upon_o another_o how_o apt_a you_o be_v to_o magnify_v and_o extol_v one_o another_o for_o every_o little_a nothing_o you_o do_v upon_o a_o publick-stage_n this_o have_v be_v a_o fashion_n of_o a_o long_o stand_v among_o you_o that_o whoever_o carry_v the_o thing_n you_o still_o resolve_v to_o carry_v the_o thank_n and_o whoever_o lose_v you_o must_v still_o ride_v triumphant_a and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n of_o your_o postscript-gentleman_n towards_o mr._n elliot_n of_o new-england_n not_o that_o he_o so_o much_o as_o attempt_n to_o prove_v that_o mr._n elliot_n do_v merit_n or_o deserve_v any_o honour_n for_o what_o he_o there_o say_v he_o do_v but_o mere_o because_o mr._n elliot_n do_v something_o with_o which_o that_o gentleman_n be_v please_v therefore_o honour_n will_v for_o ever_o redound_v to_o mr._n elliot_n of_o new-england_n whereas_o it_o be_v ten_o to_o one_o if_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o cause_n be_v but_o thorough_o examine_v and_o impartial_o consider_v the_o honour_n may_v rebound_v from_o mr._n elliot_n and_o redound_v to_o they_o which_o oppose_v he_o and_o why_o not_o for_o he_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o open_o and_o earnest_o maintain_v the_o cause_n of_o infant-baptism_n against_o a_o sort_n of_o person_n who_o forget_v that_o in_o the_o gospel-church_n the_o promise_n be_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o child_n and_o be_v unwilling_a to_o reckon_v child_n among_o the_o disciple_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n he_o scarce_o so_o much_o as_o tell_v we_o much_o less_o do_v he_o prove_v that_o mr._n elliot_n be_v in_o the_o truth_n and_o his_o antagonist_n in_o a_o error_n so_o that_o still_o for_o aught_o we_o know_v the_o honour_n may_v belong_v to_o the_o other_o side_n to_o they_o who_o open_o and_o earnest_o oppose_v the_o cause_n of_o infant-baptism_n against_o a_o sort_n of_o person_n who_o forget_v that_o in_o the_o gospel-church_n the_o promise_n he_o allude_v to_o be_v any_o otherwise_o to_o any_o body_n than_o it_o be_v to_o every_o body_n or_o to_o believer_n child_n any_o otherwise_o than_o it_o be_v to_o believer_n themselves_o namely_o upon_o condition_n of_o their_o believe_v and_o perform_v the_o condition_n require_v in_o order_n thereunto_o as_o their_o parent_n before_o they_o be_v fain_o to_o do_v before_o they_o have_v any_o interest_n therein_o for_o the_o promise_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o world_n upon_o those_o condition_n and_o to_o none_o in_o the_o world_n without_o they_o for_o if_o it_o belong_v to_o any_o without_o condition_n than_o the_o promise_n be_v absolute_a and_o belong_v as_o much_o to_o unbeliever_n and_o their_o child_n as_o it_o can_v do_v to_o any_o body_n else_o and_o it_o be_v worth_a observe_v that_o these_o very_a person_n unto_o who_o peter_n speak_v these_o word_n be_v not_o themselves_o believer_n as_o yet_o but_o unbeliever_n when_o peter_n speak_v these_o word_n unto_o they_o etc._n etc._n neither_o have_v this_o gentleman_n tell_v we_o at_o all_o what_o infant_n be_v the_o better_a for_o mr._n elliot_n reckon_v they_o disciple_n of_o christ_n he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o tell_v we_o that_o mr._n elliot_n prove_v they_o so_o to_o be_v and_o pray_v what_o advantage_n can_v it_o be_v to_o poor_a infant_n to_o be_v miscall_v and_o reckon_v what_o they_o be_v not_o what_o if_o mr._n elliot_n of_o new-england_n have_v reckon_v child_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v lawyer_n counsellor_n and_o judge_n will_v this_o have_v do_v the_o poor_a child_n any_o good_a or_o have_v provoke_v any_o wise_a man_n to_o have_v carry_v any_o of_o they_o a_o fee_n to_o plead_v his_o cause_n or_o what_o honour_n will_v have_v be_v due_a to_o mr._n elliot_n for_o such_o a_o idle_a encomium_n any_o more_o than_o to_o