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2-5_a and_o 15.4_o etc._n etc._n for_o now_o it_o will_v be_v answer_v they_o that_o in_o israel_n apostasy_n they_o keep_v circumcision_n which_o need_v not_o to_o be_v repeat_v see_v it_o be_v true_a and_o seal_v god_n covenant_n unto_o they_o but_o that_o these_o can_v so_o plead_v for_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o rome_n because_o themselves_o say_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n and_o so_o not_o the_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n to_o they_o which_o have_v no_o other_o but_o it_o whereunto_o what_o they_o will_v answer_n let_v they_o bethink_v themselves_o and_o let_v they_o show_v we_o by_o what_o scripture_n they_o can_v approve_v their_o stand_n now_o who_o witting_o &_o willing_o remain_v without_o true_a baptism_n to_o seal_v unto_o they_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n in_o jesus_n christ_n final_o if_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n than_o as_o they_o also_o 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