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answer_n to_o the_o epistle_n dedicate_v by_o t._n c._n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 1_o a_o epistle_n of_o the_o author_n too_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 17_o a_o exhortation_n to_o the_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n 31_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o admonition_n 57_o tractatus_fw-la 1._o whether_o christ_n forbid_v rule_v and_o superiority_n unto_o mi_a nister_n 61_o the_o true_a interpretation_n of_o the_o 20_o of_o matthew_n etc._n etc._n reges_fw-la gentium_fw-la etc._n etc._n cap._n 1._o 61_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n math._n 23._o cap._n 2._o 71_o tract_n 2._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a 76_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n touch_v order_n ceremonies_z discipline_n &_o kind_n of_o govern_v mean_v not_o express_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n chap._n 1._o 76_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o council_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 2_o 95_o the_o opinion_n of_o saint_n augustine_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 3_o 99_o the_o opinion_n of_o m._n caluine_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 4._o 109_o the_o opinion_n of_o bucer_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 5_o 113_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o place_n of_o deut._n 4._o &_o 12._o quote_v by_o the_o admonition_n chap._n 6._o 116_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o late_a writer_n of_o thing_n indifferent_a chap._n 7._o 126_o tract_n 3._o of_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n 132_o of_o the_o trial_n of_o minister_n both_o in_o lear_a ning_n and_o conversation_n chap._n 1._o pag._n 132_o whether_o idolatrous_a sacrificer_n and_o massemonger_n may_v afterwards_o be_v minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n chap._n 2._o 143_o of_o minister_n learn_v catechism_n chap_n â–ª_o 3._o 152_o of_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n by_o the_o voice_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n chap._n 4._o 154_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o reason_n which_o t._n c._n use_v to_o prove_v the_o perpetual_a equity_n etc._n etc._n of_o election_n by_o the_o people_n chap._n 5._o 170_o the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o order_v of_o minister_n chap._n 6._o 174_o that_o bishop_n have_v authority_n to_o admit_v and_o ordain_v minister_n chap._n 7._o 194_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v interest_n in_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v convenient_a chap._n 8._o 211_o tract_n 4._o of_o minister_n have_v no_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n 216_o of_o minister_n admit_v a_o place_n be_v not_o void_a chap._n 1_o 216_o of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o ordain_v â—i_n nister_n chap._n 2._o 225_o of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n chap._n 3._o 228_o tract_n 5._o of_o residence_n of_o the_o pastor_n chap._n 1._o 235_o of_o plurality_n or_o have_v more_o benefice_n than_o one_o chap._n 2._o 246_o tract_n 6._o of_o minister_n that_o can_v preach_v and_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v 251_o some_o may_v be_v minister_n that_o can_v preach_v chap._n 1._o 251_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v chap._n 2_o 254_o tract_n 7._o of_o apparel_n of_o minister_n 256_o the_o cause_n why_o they_o refuse_v the_o apparel_n examine_v chap._n 1._o 256_o that_o minister_n be_v know_v in_o time_n pass_v by_o distinct_a apparel_n chap._n 2._o 261_o that_o the_o magistrate_n may_v appoint_v a_o distinct_a apparel_n for_o minister_n chap._n 3._o 264_o the_o distinction_n of_o apparel_n be_v appoint_v before_o the_o pope_n tyranny_n chap._n 4._o 268_o that_o the_o apparel_n now_o use_v be_v not_o po_n pish_o or_o antichristian_a and_o that_o thing_n invent_v by_o evil_a man_n may_v be_v use_v of_o christian_n chap._n 5._o 271_o diverse_a thing_n concern_v apparel_n in_o other_o place_n of_o the_o answer_v chap._n 6._o 282_o the_o fault_n wherewith_o the_o admonitor_n charge_v the_o apparel_n answer_v chap._n 7_o 283_o tract_n 8._o of_o archbishop_n metropolitans_n bishop_n archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 297_o the_o reason_n of_o t._n c._n answer_v where_o by_o he_o go_v about_o to_o take_v away_o the_o superfluous_a lop_v as_o he_o term_v it_o of_o the_o office_n chap._n 1._o 297_o that_o the_o name_n of_o metropolitan_a archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o antichristian_a chap._n 2._o 318_o the_o office_n of_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o strange_a or_o unheard_a of_o in_o chri_n stes_fw-la church_n and_o of_o superiority_n among_o the_o clergy_n chap._n 3._o 353_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_v of_o master_n jewel_n concern_v archbishop_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o unreverend_a reply_n of_o t._n c._n chap._n 4_o 422_o the_o cause_n of_o archbishop_n and_o of_o their_o prerogative_n and_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o old_a bishop_n assign_v by_o t._n c._n examine_v chap._n 5._o 435_o other_o thing_n concern_v the_o office_n and_o authority_n of_o our_o clergy_n of_o inequality_n of_o degree_n among_o minister_n etc._n etc._n disperse_v in_o other_o place_n of_o the_o answer_n chap._n 6._o 453_o a_o brief_a collection_n of_o such_o authority_n as_o be_v use_v in_o this_o defence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o archbishop_n &_o bishop_n chap_n 7._o 470_o a_o brief_a comparison_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o our_o time_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n chap._n 8._o pag._n 47_o tract_n 9_o of_o the_o communion_n book_n 474._o the_o general_a fault_n examine_v where_o with_o the_o public_a service_n be_v charge_v by_o t._n c._n chap._n 1._o 474_o a_o examination_n of_o the_o particular_a fault_n either_o in_o matter_n or_o form_n wherewith_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n be_v charge_v chap._n 2._o 487_o of_o baptism_n by_o woman_n wherewith_o the_o communion_n book_n be_v false_o charge_v chap._n 3._o 503_o of_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n in_o private_a place_n chap._n 4._o 511_o the_o sacrament_n minister_v by_o other_o than_o minister_n chap._n 5._o 515_o of_o private_a communion_n wherewith_o the_o admonition_n charge_v the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n chap._n 6._o 525._o of_o church_a of_o woman_n 534_o tract_n 10._o of_o holiday_n 538_o of_o holiday_n in_o general_a and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o use_n of_o they_o chap._n 1._o 538_o of_o saint_n day_n chap._n 2._o 543_o tract_n 11._o what_o kind_n of_o preachinge_a be_v most_o effectual_a 555_o tract_n 12._o of_o preach_v before_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 562._o tract_n 13._o of_o read_v of_o the_o scripture_n 568._o a_o comparison_n between_o read_v of_o scripture_n and_o preach_v chap._n 1._o page_n 568_o that_o read_n be_v preach_v chap._n 2._o pag._n 574_o the_o profit_n of_o read_v scripture_n in_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o 578_o tract_n 14._o of_o minister_a and_o preachinge_a by_o deacon_n 582_o tract_n 15._o of_o matter_n touch_v the_o communion_n 588_o of_o order_n and_o ceremony_n use_v in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o communion_n chap._n 1._o 588_o of_o shut_v man_n from_o the_o communion_n and_o compel_v to_o communicate_v chap._n 2._o 603_o of_o plain_n and_o simple_a minister_a and_o receyve_v of_o the_o communion_n chap._n 3._o 605_o tract_n 16._o of_o matter_n touch_v baptism_n pag._n 607_o of_o interrogatory_n minister_v to_o infant_n chap._n 1._o 607_o of_o godfather_n and_o their_o promise_n chap._n 2_o 612_o of_o fontes_fw-la and_o cross_v in_o baptism_n chap._n 3._o pag._n 614_o of_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v chap._n 4_o 619_o tract_n 17._o of_o the_o signiory_n or_o government_n by_o senior_n 626_o whether_o there_o be_v such_o as_o the_o ad_fw-la monition_n call_v senior_n in_o every_o congregation_n chap._n 1._o 626_o whether_o the_o government_n by_o
donatisme_n pag._n 622_o the_o replyer_n put_v to_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o ceremony_n 614_o the_o reply_o trip_v in_o his_o own_o net_n pag._n 693_o t._n c._n teach_v s._n augustine_n to_o speak_v pag._n 609_o the_o mark_n that_o the_o replyer_n shote_v at_o 56_o the_o drift_n of_o the_o reply_o 315_o t._n c._n forsake_v the_o apostolical_a form_n in_o election_n 193._o 195_o ¶_o telesphorus_n a_o good_a bishop_n 6_o 2_o ¶_o theodoret_n have_v government_n of_o 800._o church_n 415._o 472_o theodoret_n of_o chrysostome_n 412_o ¶_o thracia_n annex_v to_o the_o archbisshoprike_v of_o constantinople_n 413_o ¶_o of_o these_o word_n take_v thou_o eat_v thou_o 600_o ¶_o diversity_n of_o time_n require_v a_o diverse_a government_n etc._n etc._n 174._o etc._n etc._n ¶_o timothy_n authority_n 401_o timothy_n bishop_n of_o ephesus_n 404_o etc._n etc._n 470._o timothy_n oft_o absent_a from_o ephesus_n pag._n 236_o the_o jurisdiction_n that_o timothy_n use_v in_o some_o respect_n civil_a 769_o 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his_o book_n de_fw-fr virginibus_fw-la velandis_fw-la where_o in_o like_a manner_n after_o he_o have_v recite_v this_o rule_n of_o faith_n he_o add_v this_o law_n of_o aith_v remain_v other_o thing_n of_o discipline_n &_o conversation_n admit_v newness_n of_o correction_n the_o grace_n of_o god_n work_v and_o go_v forward_o even_o to_o the_o end_n so_o that_o tertullian_n think_v that_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n and_o discipline_n may_v be_v alter_v y_o e_fw-la rule_n of_o faith_n remain_v 〈◊〉_d notwithstanding_o his_o former_a rule_n if_o you_o will_v not_o have_v this_o to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n then_o will_v i_o reason_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d the_o reason_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d
〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o beginning_n there_o be_v apostle_n therefore_o there_o must_v be_v apostle_n now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z it_o be_v forbid_v to_o eat_v y_o it_o which_o be_v strangle_v ergo_fw-la we_o may_v not_o eat_v it_o now_o in_o y_z e_z beginning_z there_o be_v no_o christian_a magistrates_n ergo_fw-la there_o must_v e_o no_o e_z now_o in_o the_o beginning_n the_o apostle_n baptize_v in_o river_n the_o communion_n be_v minister_v to_o 12._o only_o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la quòd_fw-la posterius_fw-la falsum_fw-la that_o which_o be_v latter_o be_v false_a these_o be_v as_o good_a argument_n as_o you_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n &_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n &_o therefore_o these_o argument_n &_o you_o also_o with_o such_o like_a be_v stark_o naught_o chap._n 3._o the._n 19_o division_n t._n c._n page_n 79._o sect._n ult._n now_o see_v that_o hierome_n confess_v y_o it_o a_o bishop_n &_o a_o elder_n by_o god_n his_o institution_n be_v all_o one_o &_o that_o custom_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o church_n have_v alter_v this_o institution_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o this_o custom_n &_o restore_v of_o the_o lord_n institution_n i_o say_v as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v why_o do_v you_o break_v the_o commandment_n 15._o math_n 15._o of_o god_n to_o establish_v your_o own_o tradition_n â–ª_o for_o the_o one_o be_v the_o institution_n of_o god_n &_o the_o other_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n &_o if_o a_o man_n testimony_n be_v so_o much_o with_o m._n doctor_n let_v he_o hear_v what_o you_o â—_o same_o virg_n develand_n virg_n tertullian_n say_v whatsoever_o savore_v against_o the_o truth_n shall_v be_v account_v heresy_n even_o although_o it_o be_v a_o old_a custom_n io._n whitgifte_n your_o whole_a bóoke_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o sand_n y_z t_z be_v upon_o foundation_n not_o prove_v as_o this_o be_v for_o you_o shall_v first_o have_v prove_v that_o christ_n have_v so_o command_v equality_n of_o minister_n in_o government_n &_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n that_o one_o of_o they_o may_v not_o be_v above_o the_o other_o the_o contrary_a be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o scripture_n both_o in_o word_n &_o example_n as_o i_o have_v after_o declare_v so_o far_o of_o be_v it_o that_o you_o can_v show_v any_o commandment_n to_o the_o contrary_n this_o text_n of_o you_o e._n 15._o of_o mat._n do_v the_o anabaptiste_n object_n unto_o zuinglius_fw-la in_o the_o like_a case_n as_o it_o appear_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la but_o he_o answer_v they_o as_o i_o must_v answer_v you_o i_o speak_v 〈◊〉_d zuing._n de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d not_o as_o you_o feign_v i_o to_o speak_v i_o speak_v only_o of_o external_a &_o indifferent_a thing_n whereof_o there_o be_v many_o which_o be_v neither_o command_v nor_o forbid_v by_o any_o express_a word_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n &_o again_o for_o this_o that_o we_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o necessarrie_v unto_o salvation_n but_o it_o be_v external_a of_o the_o which_o thing_n many_o may_v be_v find_v omit_v in_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o except_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o we_o bring_v into_o the_o church_n some_o thing_n as_o necessary_a unto_o salvation_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o the_o scripture_n this_o text_n be_v no_o more_o apt_o apply_v by_o you_o against_o i_o than_o it_o be_v by_o the_o anabaptist_n against_o zuinglius_fw-la the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n be_v true_a and_o make_v nothing_o for_o your_o purpose_n for_o you_o must_v first_o prove_v that_o these_o degree_n be_v against_o the_o truth_n chap._n 3._o the._n 20._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 80._o line_n 3._o now_o i_o will_v turn_v m._n doctor_n own_o argument_n upon_o his_o head_n after_o this_o sort_n 〈◊〉_d sort_n a_o sillogisme_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o be_v b_z schism_n &_o heresy_n but_o in_o their_o time_n there_o be_v no_o archbishop_n ordain_v to_o appear_v they_o therefore_o the_o best_a mean_n of_o compose_v of_o controversy_n and_o keep_v concord_n be_v not_o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o be_v 〈◊〉_d to_o your_o 〈◊〉_d â–ª_o pag._n 7_o 〈◊〉_d 5._o by_o have_v a_o archbishop_n to_o be_v over_o a_o whole_a province_n io._n whitgifte_n i_o will_v several_o answer_v your_o argument_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v the_o better_o understand_v the_o pith_n of_o they_o and_o first_o i_o deny_v this_o argument_n because_o it_o be_v neither_o in_o mode_n 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d argument_n this_o 〈◊〉_d nor_o sigure_n for_o first_o you_o must_v call_v to_o memory_n that_o in_o the_o three_o figure_n where_o you_o will_v seem_v to_o place_v it_o the_o minor_a may_v not_o be_v negative_a as_o you_o be_v second_o there_o be_v more_o in_o the_o conclusion_n then_o there_o be_v in_o the_o premise_n which_o be_v against_o all_o rule_n of_o sillogisme_n if_o you_o have_v conclude_v according_a to_o your_o former_a proposition_n you_o shall_v have_v say_v thus_o ergo_fw-la when_o there_o be_v archbishop_n there_o be_v no_o schism_n for_o this_o be_v the_o true_a conclusion_n of_o that_o false_a sillogisme_n three_o minus_n extremum_fw-la shall_v be_v subiectum_fw-la conclusionis_fw-la and_o in_o this_o argument_n it_o be_v praedicatum_fw-la see_v therefore_o that_o your_o argument_n have_v no_o true_a form_n in_o any_o respect_n i_o deny_v it_o until_o it_o be_v better_o frame_v chap._n 3._o the._n 21._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 80._o line_n 7._o that_o there_o be_v none_o in_o the_o y_o t_o apostles_n time_n thus_o it_o may_v appear_v if_o there_o be_v any_o they_o be_v either_o ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n &_o their_o authority_n or_o else_o without_o and_o beside_o their_o authority_n if_o there_o be_v any_o without_o &_o beside_o their_o authority_n then_o they_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v condemn_v y_o it_o more_o because_o in_o their_o time_n they_o starie_n up_o without_o their_o warrant_n and_o if_o the_o apostle_n do_v ordain_v they_o there_o be_v some_o use_n of_o they_o to_o that_o whereunto_o they_o be_v ordain_v but_o there_o be_v no_o use_n of_o they_o to_o that_o whereunto_o they_o be_v ordain_v therefore_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o ordain_v they_o the_o use_n whereunto_o m._n doctor_n say_v they_o be_v ordain_v be_v to_o compose_v controversy_n and_o end_n schism_n but_o to_o this_o they_o be_v not_o use_v whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o they_o be_v unprofitable_a that_o they_o be_v not_o use_v to_o any_o such_o end_n it_o shall_v be_v perceive_v by_o that_o which_o follow_v io._n whitgifte_n this_o shall_v be_v the_o proof_n of_o your_o former_a minor_n if_o the_o argument_n have_v be_v good_a but_o be_v it_o as_o you_o will_v have_v it_o here_o be_v yet_o no_o sufficient_a proof_n of_o your_o minor_n they_o be_v but_o only_o your_o own_o bare_a word_n which_o may_v as_o easy_o be_v reject_v as_o they_o be_v bare_o by_o you_o affirm_v but_o least_o the_o ignorant_a reader_n shall_v think_v that_o i_o shift_n of_o matter_n with_o such_o quiddity_n as_o they_o understand_v not_o i_o will_v set_v a_o side_n the_o deform_a face_n of_o your_o argument_n and_o come_v to_o the_o matter_n &_o as_o i_o think_v your_o meaning_n which_o be_v this_o controversy_n be_v compound_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o a_o archbishop_n ergo_fw-la they_o may_v likewise_o be_v so_o now_o so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o any_o archbishop_n this_o be_v the_o controversy_n whether_o the_o church_n be_v find_v to_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o external_a government_n at_o all_o time_n that_o be_v use_v in_o y_z e_z apostle_n time_n i_o have_v prove_v hitherto_o that_o it_o be_v not_o and_o more_o be_v to_o be_v 2._o the_o office_n of_o a_o archbishop_n in_o y_o e_o apostles_n ad._n 4._o 15._o 18._o 1_o cor._n 3._o 4._o 5._o â–ª_o l'traque_fw-la id_fw-la tim_fw-la epi_fw-la ad_fw-la tit._n euseb._n lib_n 3_o cap._n 23._o epibha_n lib._n 1._o tom._n 2._o say_v of_o the_o same_o afterward_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n this_o i_o give_v you_o to_o understand_v that_o although_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o this_o name_n of_o archbishop_n among_o they_o yet_o they_o have_v the_o same_o authority_n and_o office_n for_o they_o have_v the_o government_n &_o direction_n of_o diverse_a church_n both_o in_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n &_o discipline_n they_o end_v controvesy_n repress_a error_n keep_v they_o in_o quietness_n ordain_v they_o bishop_n &_o visit_v they_o as_z appeareth_z act._n 14._o 15._o 18._o 1._o cor._n 3._o 4._o 5._o &_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n &_o titus_n euseb._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 23._o declare_v of_o john_n the_o evangelist_n that_o after_o he_o return_v from_o pathmos_n he_o visit_v &_o govern_v sundry_a church_n &_o ordain_v they_o minister_n the_o like_a do_v epiphanius_n report_n of_o peter_n
rest_n to_o supply_v that_o place_n and_o office_n which_o now_o the_o archbishop_n have_v chap._n 3._o the._n 23._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 80._o sect._n 2._o and_o if_o any_o can_v show_v i_o one_o man_n in_o these_o time_n of_o who_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v that_o he_o will_v pronounce_v gentleness_n the_o archbishop_n have_v 〈◊〉_d to_o thank_v you_o for_o your_o gentleness_n the_o truth_n of_o every_o question_n which_o shall_v arise_v he_o shall_v make_v i_o somewhat_o more_o favourable_a to_o the_o archbishop_n than_o present_o i_o be_o for_o although_o there_o be_v find_v one_o such_o as_o can_v not_o err_v yet_o i_o can_v not_o consent_v that_o the_o matter_n shall_v lie_v only_o upon_o his_o hand_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n which_o can_v not_o err_v in_o these_o matter_n will_v not_o take_v that_o upon_o they_o &_o see_v that_o by_o that_o mean_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v contemn_v and_o further_o for_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o one_o man_n in_o a_o controversy_n be_v not_o so_o strong_a to_o pull_v up_o error_n that_o be_v root_v in_o man_n mind_n as_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o many_o for_o that_o the_o judgement_n of_o many_o be_v very_o apt_a either_o to_o confirm_v a_o truth_n or_o to_o confute_v falsehood_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o s._n paul_n do_v hold_v forth_o as_o it_o be_v a_o buckler_n against_o the_o frowardness_n of_o certain_a the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n io._n whitgifte_n you_o take_v great_a pain_n in_o fight_v without_o a_o adversary_n and_o because_o otherwise_o as_o it_o shall_v seem_v you_o lack_v matter_n to_o lengthen_v your_o book_n therefore_o you_o devise_v matter_n of_o your_o own_o to_o strive_v against_o for_o who_o have_v affirm_v that_o which_o you_o so_o earnest_o seek_v in_o this_o place_n to_o overthrow_v it_o have_v be_v tell_v twice_o already_o that_o neither_o of_o our_o archbishop_n take_v upon_o he_o to_o compound_v controversy_n in_o doctrine_n by_o himself_o 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of_o one_o man_n over_o sundry_a church_n yea_o over_o many_o shire_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 116._o sect._n 1._o 2._o i_o have_v prove_v before_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o your_o 13._o &_o 14._o reason_n that_o this_o lordship_n of_o one_o man_n as_o you_o term_v it_o but_o in_o deed_n lawful_a jurisdiction_n over_o sundry_a church_n be_v not_o the_o invention_n of_o any_o pope_n but_o of_o great_a antiquity_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n allow_v by_o that_o famous_a council_n of_o nice_a &_o practise_v since_o of_o most_o godly_a and_o learned_a father_n in_o the._n 9_o canon_n council_n antioch_n it_o be_v thus_o write_v per_fw-la singulas_fw-la regiones_fw-la episcopos_fw-la convenit_fw-la nosse_fw-la metropolitanum_n episcopum_fw-la solicitudinem_fw-la totius_fw-la provinciae_fw-la gerere_fw-la propter_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la metropolim_fw-la omnes_fw-la undique_fw-la qui_fw-la negotia_fw-la videntur_fw-la habere_fw-la concurrant_fw-la undè_fw-la placuit_fw-la 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the_o supper_n and_o that_o be_v a_o error_n therefore_o the_o communion_n at_o that_o time_n and_o long_o before_o minister_v unto_o the_o sick_a and_o carry_v to_o private_a person_n be_v absent_a be_v unlawful_a such_o be_v your_o argument_n and_o this_o be_v your_o kind_n of_o answer_v which_o may_v be_v plausible_a to_o the_o ignorant_a people_n but_o nothing_o pleasant_a to_o such_o as_o be_v learn_v this_o one_o thing_n church_n more_o sincerity_n in_o the_o mi_fw-mi nistration_n now_o than_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n i_o will_v desire_v the_o reader_n to_o consider_v that_o see_v our_o sacrament_n now_o be_v more_o sincere_o minister_v than_o they_o be_v in_o justines_n tertullians_n and_o cyprian_n time_n be_v so_o near_o the_o apostle_n what_o cause_n there_o shall_v be_v for_o you_o so_o bitter_o to_o inu_a ygh_a against_o this_o church_n in_o that_o respect_n chap._n 6._o the._n 2._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 115._o towards_o the_o end_n i_o say_v therefore_o that_o 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as_o that_o which_o be_v not_o only_o not_o fit_a to_o hold_v the_o people_n in_o the_o sincere_a worshyp_v of_o god_n but_o also_o as_o that_o which_o keep_v they_o in_o their_o former_a blindness_n &_o corrupt_a opinion_n which_o they_o have_v conceyve_v of_o such_o holiday_n io._n whitgifte_n thing_n that_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a and_o have_v a_o necessary_a use_n tend_v to_o the_o abuse_n profitable_a thing_n must_v not_o be_v refuse_v for_o the_o abuse_n edify_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o worshyp_a of_o god_n be_v not_o to_o be_v utter_o remove_v for_o the_o abuse_v creep_v in_o but_o the_o abuse_n must_v be_v take_v away_o and_o the_o thing_n still_o remain_v if_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v abrogate_a because_o they_o be_v keep_v of_o the_o papist_n there_o will_v be_v a_o marvellous_a alteration_n both_o in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o the_o common_a weal_n but_o i_o have_v show_v before_o how_o far_o this_o be_v from_o the_o truth_n even_o in_o some_o 5._o tract_n 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the_o bread_n not_o in_o the_o other_o quality_n nor_o in_o the_o substance_n and_o therefore_o not_o perteyn_a to_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o have_v speak_v for_o the_o question_n be_v of_o leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n not_o of_o roundness_n or_o squarenesse_n etc._n etc._n although_o the_o form_n and_o figure_n also_o be_v indifferente_a and_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o appoint_v wherefore_o there_o may_v no_o schism_n or_o division_n in_o the_o church_n be_v make_v for_o it_o m._n bucers_n censure_n be_v upon_o the_o first_o book_n in_o king_n edward_n time_n not_o upon_o day_n bucers_n censure_n upon_o the_o first_o book_n 〈◊〉_d king_n edward_n day_n the_o second_o therefore_o you_o be_v deceive_v the_o church_n have_v authority_n in_o thing_n indifferent_a to_o abolish_v or_o revoke_v as_o occasion_n serve_v and_o therefore_o that_o circumstance_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o note_n chap._n 1._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n 1_o beside_o that_o we_o be_v call_v by_o the_o example_n of_o our_o sa_fw-fr ionce_n christ_n to_o use_v the_o supper_n usual_a and_o common_a bread_n for_o what_o time_n our_o savioure_n christ_n celebrate_v his_o supper_n there_o be_v no_o other_o bread_n to_o be_v get_v but_o unleavened_a bread_n there_o be_v astraight_o charge_v give_v by_o the_o law_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v then_o not_o leaven_a bread_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o if_o there_o have_v in_o then_o when_o he_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n as_o at_o other_o time_n nothing_o but_o leaven_a bread_n he_o will_v not_o have_v cause_v unleavened_a bread_n to_o have_v be_v make_v for_o that_o purpose_n of_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v not_o usual_a bread_n but_o proper_o appoint_v for_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o passover_n bread_n christ_n use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o then_o to_o be_v use_v and_o not_o otherwise_o usual_o and_o common_o for_o their_o usual_a and_o common_a bread_n be_v leaven_a wherefore_o this_o make_v against_o you_o and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o commandment_n that_o appertethe_v to_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o passover_n perpetual_a 2_o pa._n 130._o sect._n 2_o and_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o by_o that_o precept_n 2._o chro._n 35._o before_o allege_v it_o seem_v you_o will_v then_o must_v we_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o have_v unleavened_a bread_n but_o as_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o be_v this_o also_o for_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n be_v indifferent_a although_o as_o m._n bucer_n say_v it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o institution_n indifferent_a the_o kind_n of_o bread_n of_o itself_o indifferent_a of_o christ_n to_o use_v unle_fw-mi vened_a bread_n b_o cause_n he_o do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n with_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o other_o circumstance_n and_o reason_n to_o move_v the_o church_n sometime_o to_o use_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n but_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a oversight_n of_o m._n doctor_n both_o 〈◊〉_d this_o section_n and_o that_o which_o go_v 〈◊〉_d fore_n that_o he_o have_v not_o learned_a to_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o that_o which_o be_v not_o ncere_o do_v &_o that_o which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o do_v for_o in_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o admonition_n because_o they_o conclude_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v no_o examination_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d and_o sincere_o minister_v for_o say_v he_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la be_v not_o of_o the_o jubstaunce_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o this_o section_n he_o say_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o there_o be_v leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v but_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v understand_v that_o if_o either_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o bread_n and_o wine_n or_o the_o form_n of_o it_o which_o be_v the_o institution_n which_o thing_n be_v only_o substantial_a part_n be_v want_v that_o then_o there_o shall_v have_v be_v no_o sacrament_n minister_v at_o all_o but_o they_o be_v retain_v and_o yet_o other_o thing_n use_v which_o be_v not_o convenient_a the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v but_o not_o sincere_o for_o example_n in_o the_o popish_a baptism_n there_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n but_o there_o be_v use_v spittle_n and_o cream_n and_o candle_n and_o such_o beggarly_a trumpery_n it_o be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v therefore_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o minister_v sincere_o and_o another_o thing_n to_o minister_v so_o that_o that_o which_o be_v of_o
lord_n these_o therefore_o be_v they_o who_o we_o call_v excommunicate_v and_o who_o for_o two_o respect_n be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n one_o according_a to_o man_n because_o they_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o holy_a fellowship_n of_o the_o faithful_a the_o other_o according_a to_o god_n because_o that_o say_n of_o christ_n be_v sure_a that_o that_o be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n which_o be_v ryghtlye_o bind_v of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o earth_n but_o it_o be_v a_o other_o thing_n truelye_o to_o be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n than_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o that_o true_a kingdom_n of_o heaven_n which_o never_o happen_v to_o any_o of_o the_o elect_v for_o that_o say_n of_o christ_n stand_v that_o those_o shall_v never_o be_v cast_v out_o who_o the_o father_n have_v give_v the_o son_n and_o that_o of_o lohn_n if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o we_o they_o will_v have_v tarry_v with_o we_o and_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n the_o foundation_n of_o god_n stand_v sure_a have_v this_o seal_n the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v be_v therefore_o as_o touch_v christ_n these_o be_v say_v not_o to_o be_v his_o nor_o member_n of_o the_o church_n not_o as_o the_o first_o which_o be_v reprobate_a and_o damn_a but_o because_o for_o a_o time_n as_o concern_v the_o force_n and_o efficacy_n of_o the_o spirit_n they_o be_v without_o he_o as_o be_v so_o engraft_v in_o he_o that_o they_o receyve_v not_o that_o lyvelye_a nouryshement_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n for_o a_o time_n that_o be_v till_o grace_n of_o repentance_n be_v give_v they_o to_o conclude_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o these_o and_o the_o first_o be_v such_o as_o be_v between_o a_o leg_n of_o wood_n join_v cunning_o to_o a_o true_a body_n which_o notwithstanding_o be_v not_o a_o leg_n in_o deed_n neither_o be_v true_o call_v a_o part_n of_o that_o man_n and_o betwixt_o a_o true_a leg_n that_o yet_o for_o a_o time_n receyve_v not_o nouryshement_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o unless_o it_o be_v refresh_v by_o the_o strengthe_n of_o some_o sharp_a medicine_n it_o will_v necessary_o putrific_a and_o clean_o perish_v wherefore_o see_v these_o thing_n be_v thus_o and_o charity_n byd_v we_o to_o hope_v well_o of_o all_o yea_o and_o also_o to_o take_v care_n for_o they_o which_o be_v hold_v as_o captive_n in_o the_o snare_n of_o the_o devyll_n god_n forbydde_v that_o the_o parent_n be_v excommunicate_v we_o shall_v conclude_v that_o their_o posterity_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n furthermore_n there_o be_v great_a difference_n between_o those_o which_o although_o they_o be_v notorious_a offender_n nevertheless_o depart_v not_o from_o the_o church_n and_o between_o those_o that_o be_v manifest_a rennegate_n join_v themselves_o with_o the_o enemy_n to_o oppress_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n further_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o esteem_v of_o papist_n much_o less_o christian_n excommunicate_v no_o otherwise_o than_o of_o turk_n for_o although_o it_o be_v unpossible_a to_o serve_v the_o pope_n and_o christ_n together_o yet_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o popery_n be_v a_o err_a of_o the_o christian_a church_n wherefore_o the_o lord_n have_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o that_o gulf_n of_o papistry_n preserve_v baptism_n that_o be_v the_o first_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n whereby_o it_o appear_v as_o also_o the_o thing_n itself_o prove_v in_o we_o that_o although_o papisme_n be_v not_o the_o church_n yet_o the_o church_n have_v be_v and_o be_v as_o it_o be_v drown_v or_o cover_v in_o it_o which_o can_v not_o by_o any_o mean_n be_v say_v of_o the_o turk_n which_o never_o give_v their_o name_n to_o chryst._n last_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o goodness_n of_o god_n be_v extend_v to_o a_o thousand_o generation_n that_o be_v as_o it_o be_v without_o end_n it_o be_v hard_a if_o we_o shall_v judge_v of_o the_o child_n whether_o they_o belong_v to_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n or_o no_o by_o the_o profession_n of_o their_o last_o parent_n therefore_o of_o all_o these_o argument_n join_v together_o we_o conclude_v that_o the_o child_n of_o person_n excommunicate_a abide_v yet_o in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n can_v by_o no_o right_n be_v debar_v from_o baptism_n if_o in_o case_n a_o meet_a surety_n be_v have_v which_o will_v make_v promise_n to_o the_o church_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v virtuous_o bring_v up_o which_o i_o think_v aught_o to_o be_v do_v of_o the_o minister_n themselves_o and_o other_o godly_a man_n rather_o than_o their_o baptism_n shall_v any_o long_o be_v defer_v yet_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o if_o the_o minister_n before_o he_o baptise_v the_o infant_n take_v hereof_o occasion_n earnest_o exhort_v the_o father_n that_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v present_a to_o epentance_n before_o the_o assembly_n which_o be_v oftentimes_o practise_v in_o our_o church_n hitherto_o beza_n chap._n 4._o the_o 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 137._o sect._n 2._o and_o in_o the._n 193._o page_n he_o ask_v what_o if_o the_o parent_n of_o the_o child_n be_v unknowen_a if_o it_o be_v yet_o if_o godly_a man_n will_v present_v it_o to_o baptism_n with_o promise_n of_o see_v it_o bring_v up_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n for_o so_o much_o as_o it_o be_v find_v in_o a_o place_n where_o the_o church_n be_v and_o therefore_o by_o likelihood_n to_o apperteyne_a to_o some_o that_o be_v of_o the_o church_n i_o think_v it_o may_v be_v baptize_v if_o the_o church_n think_v it_o good_a in_o this_o last_o case_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o why_o shall_v you_o but_o think_v so_o what_o reason_n be_v there_o why_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v but_o yet_o this_o answer_n of_o you_o do_v nothing_o justify_v the_o aomonition_n which_o will_v the_o parent_n to_o present_v their_o child_n if_o conventent_o make_v a_o open_a confession_n of_o that_o faith_n wherein_o he_o will_v have_v his_o child_n baptize_v for_o this_o can_v not_o be_v do_v where_o the_o parent_n be_v unknowen_a neither_o be_v in_o such_o case_n any_o other_o man_n able_a to_o testify_v of_o what_o faith_n or_o behaviour_n the_o parent_n be_v chap._n 4._o the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 137._o sect._n ult._n then_o he_o go_v forth_o in_o the._n iii_o page_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o child_n of_o those_o which_o he_o have_v reckon_v may_v be_v baptize_v and_o demand_v whither_o a_o wicked_a father_n may_v have_v a_o good_a child_n a_o papist_n or_o heretic_n father_n a_o believe_a child_n yes_o very_o may_v they_o so_o may_v have_v and_o have_v the_o turk_n and_o the_o jew_n and_o yet_o their_o child_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receyve_v unless_o their_o faith_n do_v fitste_v appear_v by_o confession_n but_o you_o say_v the_o papiste_n a_o heretic_n be_v baptize_v and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o jew_n and_o turk_n their_o baptism_n be_v cut_v of_o from_o the_o church_n make_v they_o as_o much_o stranger_n unto_o it_o as_o be_v ishmael_n and_o esau_n which_o albeit_o they_o be_v circumcise_v yet_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v account_v to_o be_v of_o the_o body_n of_o god_n people_n than_o those_o which_o never_o be_v in_o the_o church_n now_o you_o see_v suspect_v see_v it_o be_v poison_n in_o deed_n and_o the_o same_o why_o he_o i_o suspect_v the_o poison_n as_o you_o term_v it_o which_o lie_v hide_v under_o these_o word_n and_o if_o it_o be_v as_o you_o say_v poison_n let_v we_o have_v some_o of_o your_o triacle_n in_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o section_n there_o be_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o he_o speak_v of_o before_o only_o the_o eldership_n be_v amed_z which_o come_v to_o be_v entreat_v of_o in_o the_o next_o section_n io._n whitgifte_n if_o their_o baptism_n be_v so_o cut_v of_o that_o it_o also_o take_v away_o the_o privilege_n from_o their_o child_n how_o can_v they_o be_v admit_v again_o into_o the_o church_n without_o rebaptisation_n s._n augustine_n in_o the_o place_n before_o recite_v say_v that_o heretic_n though_o they_o be_v cut_v of_o from_o the_o 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licentious_a speech_n though_o void_a of_o all_o reason_n and_o ground_n may_v peradventure_o sink_v deep_o into_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o subject_n especial_o of_o the_o papist_n who_o have_v already_o conceyve_v the_o same_o opinion_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n than_o will_v be_v root_v out_o in_o short_a time_n so_o careful_a be_v these_o man_n in_o procure_v to_o the_o prince_n due_a obedience_n and_o so_o faithful_a be_v they_o in_o maynteyn_v her_o authority_n according_a to_o their_o oath_n and_o duty_n chap._n 2._o the._n 22._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 114._o sect._n 2._o &_o pag._n 132._o sect._n 3_o both_o the_o name_n &_o office_n of_o senior_n be_v extinguish_v before_o ambrose_n time_n as_o he_o himself_o do_v testify_v write_v upon_o the_o five_o of_o the_o first_o to_o timothy_n in_o deed_n as_o ambrose_n say_v write_v upon_o the_o fyfth_o of_o the_o first_o to_o timothy_n the_o synagogue_n and_o after_o the_o church_n have_v senior_n 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of_o a_o new_a popedom_n have_v you_o show_v this_o confuse_a order_n to_o have_v be_v in_o y_z e_o apostles_n time_n or_o in_o y_z e_z primitive_a church_n apostle_n t._n c._n ascribe_v his_o own_o devise_n to_o the_o apostle_n where_o have_v you_o show_v it_o or_o when_o will_v you_o prove_v it_o synod_n there_o be_v indeed_o and_o necessary_a it_o be_v that_o when_o occasion_n serve_v they_o shall_v be_v but_o your_o signiory_n in_o every_o town_n or_o parish_n under_o a_o christian_a prince_n never_o be_v neither_o be_v it_o possible_a that_o without_o confusion_n it_o shall_v be_v as_o i_o have_v before_o declare_v but_o what_o audacity_n be_v this_o to_o ascribe_v a_o order_n invent_v by_o yourself_o upon_o the_o which_o scarce_o three_o of_o you_o do_v agree_v if_o you_o be_v well_o examine_v and_o in_o the_o which_o yourself_o or_o ever_o it_o be_v long_o will_v espy_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v alter_v unto_o the_o apostle_n of_o bishops_n court_n and_o their_o officer_n chap._n 2._o the._n 1._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 150._o sect._n 1_o these_o thing_n stand_v in_o this_o sort_n all_o those_o court_n of_o bishop_n and_o archbyshop_n must_v needs_o fall_v which_o be_v by_o antichrist_n erect_v against_o this_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n of_o eldership_n as_o the_o court_n of_o faculty_n and_o those_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o chancellor_n commissary_n officialls_n and_o such_o like_a the_o describe_v of_o the_o corruption_n whereof_o will_v require_v a_o whole_a book_n of_o which_o i_o will_v note_v the_o principal_a head_n and_o sum_n io._n whitgifte_n and_o not_o these_o court_v only_o but_o all_o the_o court_n in_o england_n will_v be_v devour_v up_o of_o your_o signiory_n yea_o each_o the_o prince_n regal_a authority_n as_o may_v appear_v partly_o by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v before_o and_o partly_o by_o that_o which_o shall_v follow_v hereafter_o for_o what_o jurisdiction_n will_v not_o your_o signiory_n usurp_v what_o matter_n will_v it_o not_o 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