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A80608 The bloudy tenent, washed, and made white in the bloud of the Lambe: being discussed and discharged of bloud-guiltinesse by just defence. Wherein the great questions of this present time are handled, viz. how farre liberty of conscience ought to be given to those that truly feare God? And how farre restrained to turbulent and pestilent persons, that not onely raze the foundation of godlinesse, but disturb the civill peace where they live? Also how farre the magistrate may proceed in the duties of the first table? And that all magistrates ought to study the word and will of God, that they may frame their government according to it. Discussed. As they are alledged from divers Scriptures, out of the Old and New Testament. Wherein also the practise of princes is debated, together with the judgement of ancient and late writers of most precious esteeme. Whereunto is added a reply to Mr. Williams answer, to Mr. Cottons letter. / By John Cotton Batchelor in Divinity, and teacher of the church of Christ at Boston in New England. Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1647 (1647) Wing C6409; Thomason E387_7; ESTC R836 257,083 342

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chapter_n only_o 2._o thing_n more_o remain_v in_o this_o chapter_n which_o may_v not_o pass_v without_o some_o touch_n 1._o that_o he_o say_v god_n people_n in_o all_o their_o awakening_n acknowledge_v how_o slight_o they_o have_v listen_v to_o the_o check_n of_o their_o own_o conscience_n this_o the_o answerer_n please_v to_o call_v sin_v against_o conscience_n for_o which_o he_o may_v lawful_o be_v persecute_v to_o wit_n for_o sin_v against_o his_o own_o conscience_n wherein_o there_o be_v find_v a_o double_a falsehood_n 1._o that_o he_o say_v i_o call_v the_o sleight_n listning_n of_o god_n people_n to_o the_o check_n of_o their_o conscience_n their_o sin_v against_o conscience_n for_o i_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o sin_v of_o god_n people_n against_o conscience_n but_o of_o a_o heretic_n subvert_v turn_v off_o from_o the_o foundation_n much_o less_o do_v i_o call_v their_o slight_a listning_n to_o conscience_n to_o be_v heretical_a sin_v against_o conscience_n 2._o lest_o of_o all_o 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burn_a nor_o a_o expelling_a out_o of_o the_o country_n and_o coast_n but_o the_o dreadful_a cut_v off_o from_o the_o visible_a head_n and_o body_n christ_n jesus_n and_o his_o church_n spiritual_a cut_n off_o by_o excommunication_n defender_n all_o this_o &_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o in_o this_o chapter_n i_o willing_o consent_v and_o subscribe_v unto_o nor_o do_v this_o touch_n any_o conclusion_n of_o i_o at_o all_o much_o less_o discuss_v or_o shake_v it_o for_o though_o i_o say_v indeed_o that_o for_o a_o erroneous_a and_o blind_a conscience_n even_o in_o fundamental_a and_o weighty_a point_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o persecute_v any_o till_o after_o admonition_n once_o or_o twice_o according_a to_o tit._n 3.10.11_o yet_o in_o allege_v that_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o conclusion_n i_o intend_v no_o other_o persecution_n but_o the_o church_n prosecution_n against_o such_o a_o heretic_n by_o excommunication_n no_o syllable_n in_o my_o conclusion_n look_v at_o more_o if_o it_o be_v say_v but_o excommunication_n or_o any_o other_o church-prosecution_n can_v fit_o be_v call_v persecution_n yes_o very_o excommunication_n be_v a_o persecution_n and_o a_o lawful_a persecution_n if_o the_o cause_n be_v just_a offence_n as_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v say_v to_o persecute_v the_o wicked_a psalm_n 35.6_o but_o the_o excommunication_n be_v a_o cruel_a and_o bitter_a persecution_n if_o it_o be_v without_o just_a cause_n and_o due_a order_n yea_o and_o the_o more_o grievous_a persecution_n by_o how_o much_o the_o more_o grievous_a it_o be_v to_o a_o christian_a man_n to_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o saint_n then_o to_o be_v banish_v from_o a_o civil_a society_n sure_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n jesus_n account_v it_o a_o persecution_n to_o his_o disciple_n to_o be_v deliver_v up_o unto_o the_o synagogue_n and_o to_o be_v cast_v forth_o out_o of_o the_o synagogue_n luk._n 21.12_o with_o joh._n 16.2_o chap._n 16._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o sixteenth_o chapter_n touch_v to_o leration_n in_o point_n of_o less_o moment_n discusser_n for_o a_o three_o position_n or_o conclusion_n the_o answerer_n give_v this_o that_o in_o thing_n of_o less_o moment_n whether_o point_v of_o doctrine_n or_o worship_n if_o a_o man_n hold_v they_o forth_o in_o a_o spirit_n of_o christian_a meekness_n and_o love_n though_o with_o zeal_n and_o constancy_n he_o be_v not_o to_o be_v persecute_v but_o tolerate_v till_o god_n may_v be_v please_v to_o manifest_v his_o truth_n to_o he_o this_o conclusion_n i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n yet_o 3._o thing_n be_v very_o observable_a in_o the_o manner_n of_o lay_v it_o down_o 1._o that_o such_o a_o person_n may_v be_v tolerate_v till_o god_n may_v be_v please_v to_o reveal_v his_o truth_n to_o he_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n the_o apostle_n call_v for_o meekness_n and_o gentleness_n towards_o all_o man_n and_o towards_o such_o as_o oppose_v themselves_o 2._o tim._n 2._o because_o it_o may_v be_v god_n may_v give_v they_o repentance_n hence_o a_o soul_n that_o be_v lively_a and_o sensible_a of_o god_n mercy_n can_v but_o be_v patient_a and_o gentle_a towards_o the_o jew_n towards_o the_o turk_n yea_o to_o all_o the_o several_a sort_n of_o anti-christians_a yea_o to_o the_o pagan_n and_o to_o the_o wild_a sort_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n who_o have_v not_o hear_v of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n etc._n etc._n yea_o not_o only_o be_v patient_a to_o such_o but_o also_o to_o pray_v for_o such_o yea_o and_o to_o endeavour_v their_o participation_n of_o the_o same_o grace_n and_o mercy_n defender_n this_o nothing_o shake_v no_o nor_o so_o much_o as_o touch_v our_o cause_n or_o defence_n we_o think_v it_o unlawful_a for_o the_o church_n to_o censure_v such_o as_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o civil_a state_n we_o know_v no_o ground_n they_o have_v to_o persecute_v jew_n or_o turk_n or_o other_o pagan_n for_o cause_n of_o religion_n though_o they_o all_o err_v in_o fundamental_n no_o nor_o will_v i_o exempt_v anti-christians_a neither_o from_o toleration_n notwithstanding_o their_o fundamental_a error_n unless_o after_o conviction_n they_o still_o continue_v to_o seduce_v simple_a soul_n into_o their_o damnable_a and_o pernicious_a heresy_n as_o into_o the_o worship_n of_o false_a god_n into_o confidence_n of_o their_o own_o merit_n for_o justification_n into_o seditious_a conspiracy_n against_o the_o life_n and_o state_n of_o such_o prince_n as_o will_v not_o submit_v their_o conscience_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n which_o if_o the_o discusser_n shall_v in_o the_o sequel_n pluck_v off_o as_o the_o silken_a cover_n of_o a_o image_n as_o he_o call_v it_o we_o shall_v further_o attend_v he_o discusser_n 2._o i_o observe_v from_o the_o scripture_n he_o quote_v for_o this_o toleration_n phil._n 3._o rom._n 14._o how_o close_o yet_o i_o hope_v unadvised_o he_o make_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n at_o philippi_n and_o rome_n all_o one_o with_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n etc._n etc._n defender_n no_o such_o matter_n i_o never_o think_v these_o scripture_n to_o belong_v at_o all_o to_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n or_o rome_n paul_n write_v to_o both_o the_o church_n not_o only_o to_o tolerate_v but_o to_o receive_v their_o weak_a brethren_n who_o dissent_v from_o they_o in_o matter_n of_o less_o moment_n but_o to_o the_o city_n i_o never_o read_v any_o epistle_n of_o he_o who_o will_v ever_o imagine_v the_o discusser_n shall_v be_v so_o far_o transport_v beyond_o all_o bound_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o truth_n or_o candour_n as_o to_o surmise_v the_o answerer_n shall_v conceive_v that_o what_o those_o church_n must_v not_o tolerate_v in_o their_o holy_a communion_n that_o the_o city_n of_o philippi_n and_o rome_n must_v not_o tolerate_v within_o the_o compass_n
truth_n chap._n 19_o a_o reply_n to_o his_o nineteenth_o chapter_n discusser_n that_o the_o lord_n intend_v not_o doctrine_n or_o practice_n in_o this_o parable_n it_o be_v clear_a for_o 1._o the_o lord_n jesus_n express_o interprete_v the_o good_a seed_n to_o be_v person_n &_o those_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n the_o tare_n also_o to_o signify_v man_n and_o those_o the_o child_n of_o the_o wicked_a one_o ver_fw-la 38._o defender_n if_o the_o discusser_n have_v cast_v his_o eye_n a_o little_a low_o he_o may_v have_v find_v that_o christ_n interprete_v the_o tare_n not_o only_o to_o be_v person_n but_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o thing_n that_o offend_v as_o well_o as_o those_o that_o do_v iniquity_n ver_fw-la 41._o but_o i_o shall_v not_o stick_v upon_o that_o at_o all_o let_v the_o tare_n be_v person_n whether_o hypocrite_n like_v unto_o true_a christian_n or_o holder_n forth_o of_o scandalous_a and_o corrupt_v doctrine_n and_o practice_n like_v unto_o sound_n discusser_n 2._o such_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v now_o as_o those_o jewish_a observation_n be_v for_o a_o while_n rom._n 14._o nor_o so_o long_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o can_v we_o think_v that_o though_o the_o lord_n tender_v the_o tender_a conscience_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o difference_n of_o meat_n and_o drink_n which_o be_v sometime_o his_o own_o ordinance_n that_o therefore_o person_n must_v be_v now_o tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n for_o i_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o civil_a state_n in_o superstitious_a forbear_n and_o forbid_v of_o flesh_n in_o popish_a lent_n and_o superstitious_a friday_n etc._n etc._n defender_n who_o can_v tell_v what_o this_o discusser_n will_v have_v the_o tare_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v person_n not_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n and_o yet_o when_o he_o come_v to_o prove_v that_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v he_o prove_v it_o from_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o tolerate_v corrupt_a person_n for_o can_v we_o think_v say_v he_o that_o person_n must_v be_v now_o tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n in_o the_o superstitious_a forbear_n or_o forbid_v of_o flesh_n in_o popish_a lent_n and_o friday_n such_o be_v the_o inconstancy_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n who_o heart_n be_v not_o stay_v and_o steer_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n that_o sometime_o tare_n must_v not_o be_v corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n but_o person_n because_o tare_n and_o so_o person_n must_v be_v tolerate_v till_o the_o harvest_n not_o so_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n and_o yet_o all_o the_o reason_n give_v why_o corrupt_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n must_v not_o be_v tolerate_v be_v this_o because_o person_n that_o hold_v they_o forth_o must_v not_o be_v tolerate_v chap._n 20._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o twenty_o chapter_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o tare_n discusser_n the_o original_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v all_o those_o weed_n which_o spring_v up_o with_o the_o corn_n as_o cockle_n darnel_n tare_n etc._n etc._n seem_v to_o imply_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o people_n as_o be_v common_o and_o general_o know_v to_o be_v manifest_o differ_v from_o and_o opposite_a to_o the_o true_a worshipper_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signifi_v all_o those_o weed_n that_o grow_v up_o with_o the_o corne._n for_o they_o be_v a_o special_a weed_n grow_v up_o chief_o among_o the_o wheat_n but_o when_o it_o come_v to_o the_o ear_n it_o grow_v more_o like_a to_o barley_n yet_o have_v a_o narrow_a leaf_n fat_a and_o rough_a and_o a_o lean_a seed_n in_o a_o prickly_a bark_n bear_v a_o purple_a flower_n as_o dioscorides_n testify_v now_o this_o be_v far_o from_o a_o description_n of_o all_o sort_n of_o weed_n that_o grow_v up_o with_o corne._n 2._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o tare_n be_v common_o and_o general_o 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not_o after_o they_o appear_v and_o be_v know_v to_o be_v tare_n which_o shall_v imply_v by_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o answerer_n that_o when_o man_n be_v discover_v and_o know_v to_o be_v hypocrite_n yet_o still_o such_o a_o generation_n of_o hypocrite_n in_o the_o church_n must_v be_v let_v alone_o and_o tolerate_v until_o the_o harvest_n or_o end_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n order_n and_o safety_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n as_o doubtless_o the_o answerer_n will_v grant_v defender_n if_o the_o answerer_n know_v his_o own_o mind_n as_o well_o as_o the_o discusser_v doubtless_o the_o answerer_n will_v not_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n and_o order_n and_o safety_n that_o hypocrite_n know_v hypocrite_n be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o though_o it_o be_v against_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n when_o the_o officer_n or_o body_n of_o the_o church_n prove_v hypocrite_n for_o that_o threaten_v a_o dischurching_a rev._n 2.5_o yet_o till_o the_o fruit_n of_o hypocrisy_n grow_v notorious_o scandalous_a and_o ripe_a for_o church-censure_n it_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o all_o piety_n and_o order_n &_o safety_n to_o suffer_v they_o but_o rather_o more_o safety_n to_o suffer_v they_o lest_o some_o of_o god_n own_o saint_n true_a wheat_n who_o for_o a_o time_n may_v degenerate_v and_o bring_v forth_o like_o fruit_n with_o the_o tare_n be_v pluck_v up_o with_o they_o if_o foolish_a virgin_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o wise_a virgin_n may_v be_v sometime_o find_v sleep_v as_o well_o as_o they_o mat._n 25.5_o chap._n 21._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 21._o what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o world_n and_o more_o of_o the_o tare_n discusser_n 2._o the_o tare_n can_v signify_v hypocrite_n in_o the_o church_n for_o
the_o field_n wherein_o they_o both_o grow_v be_v interpret_v by_o christ_n himself_o to_o be_v the_o world_n which_o lie_v in_o wickedness_n and_o be_v a_o wilderness_n of_o wild_a beast_n fornicator_n covetous_a idolator_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o world_n as_o soon_o as_o the_o lord_n jesus_n have_v sow_v the_o good_a seed_n the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n true_a christianity_n or_o the_o true_a church_n the_o enemy_n satan_n present_o in_o the_o night_n of_o security_n ignorance_n and_o error_n sow_v the_o tare_n which_o be_v antichristian_n or_o false_a christian_n those_o the_o minister_n and_o prophet_n of_o god_n will_v straight_o run_v to_o heaven_n for_o fiery_a judgement_n from_o thence_o to_o consume_v they_o but_o the_o son_n of_o man_n command_v a_o permission_n of_o they_o till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n when_o goat_n and_o sheep_n tare_n and_o wheat_n shall_v be_v eternal_o separate_v etc._n etc._n defender_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v true_a christ_n expound_v the_o field_n to_o be_v the_o world_n ver_fw-la 38._o but_o he_o mean_v not_o the_o wide_a world_n but_o by_o a_o usual_a trope_n the_o church_n scatter_v throughout_o the_o world_n as_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o have_v love_v the_o world_n joh._n 3.16_o and_o to_o be_v the_o propitiation_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n 1_o joh._n 2.2_o reas_n 1._o else_o there_o have_v be_v no_o place_n for_o the_o servant_n wonder_v at_o the_o appear_v of_o the_o tare_n sir_n do_v not_o thou_o sow_v good_a seed_n in_o thy_o field_n from_o whence_o then_o have_v it_o tare_n ver_fw-la 27._o do_v ever_o any_o of_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n wonder_n or_o see_v any_o cause_n to_o wonder_n that_o the_o world_n shall_v be_v full_a of_o fornicator_n idolater_n murderer_n robber_n &_o c_o be_v it_o ever_o otherwise_o since_o the_o world_n be_v replenish_v with_o inhabitant_n reas_n 2._o what_o calling_n have_v the_o minister_n or_o prophet_n of_o christ_n to_o offer_v to_o pluck_v up_o all_o such_o notorious_a vicious_a person_n out_o of_o the_o world_n do_v ever_o any_o minister_n of_o christ_n demand_v such_o a_o question_n of_o christ_n will_v thou_o have_v we_o go_v and_o gather_v up_o all_o notorious_a vicious_a person_n out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o they_o do_v indeed_o demand_v the_o like_o concern_v these_o tare_n in_o christ_n field_n ver_fw-la 28._o reas_n 3._o the_o discusser_v himself_o reckon_v up_o goat_n and_o sheep_n as_o parallel_v with_o wheat_n and_o tare_n as_o general_o interpreter_n do_v now_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o goat_n be_v clean_a beast_n as_o well_o as_o sheep_n clean_o for_o food_n yea_o and_o clean_o also_o for_o sacrifice_n and_o yet_o they_o be_v tolerate_v not_o only_o to_o live_v in_o the_o same_o world_n but_o in_o the_o same_o church_n for_o after_o the_o destruction_n of_o antichrist_n when_o pure_a time_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v come_v the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v all_o of_o they_o be_v virgin_n none_o idolater_n though_o some_o wise_a and_o some_o foolish_a all_o of_o they_o servant_n though_o some_o thirsty_a some_o unprofitable_a all_o of_o they_o clean_o though_o some_o goat_n some_o sheep_n and_o therefore_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v the_o church_n be_v at_o that_o time_n resemble_v to_o such_o a_o mix_a state_n after_o the_o ruin_n of_o antichrist_n and_o conversion_n of_o the_o jew_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n to_o judgement_n mat._n 25.1_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 2._o if_o the_o field_n shall_v be_v the_o world_n and_o the_o tare_n antichristian_n and_o false_a christian_n it_o be_v true_a satan_n sow_v they_o in_o god_n field_n but_o he_o sow_v they_o in_o the_o church_n the_o mystery_n of_o their_o iniquity_n do_v secret_o work_v in_o the_o very_a bosom_n of_o the_o church_n till_o in_o process_n of_o time_n it_o grow_v so_o rank_a and_o gross_a as_o transform_v the_o church_n that_o drink_v it_o up_o into_o spiritual_a babylon_n but_o if_o antichrist_n be_v a_o apostate_n and_o antichristianitie_n apostasy_n than_o it_o be_v first_o sow_v in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o the_o wide_a world_n answ_n 3._o it_o be_v not_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n that_o antichrist_n and_o antichristian_o and_o antichristianitie_n shall_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o world_n until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n for_o god_n will_v put_v it_o into_o the_o heart_n of_o faithful_a prince_n as_o they_o have_v give_v their_o kingdom_n to_o the_o beast_n so_o in_o fullness_n of_o time_n to_o hate_v the_o whore_n to_o leave_v her_o desolate_a and_o naked_a and_o to_o burn_v her_o flesh_n with_o fire_n rev._n 17.16_o 17._o and_o after_o this_o we_o read_v of_o a_o visible_a state_n of_o a_o new_a jerusalem_n which_o shall_v flourish_v many_o year_n upon_o earth_n before_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n revel_v chap._n 20._o chap._n 21._o chap._n 22._o nevertheless_o i_o willing_o grant_v that_o the_o first_o fruit_n of_o antichristian_o and_o false_a christian_n may_v be_v reckon_v up_o among_o the_o tare_n which_o satan_n sow_v in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o church_n which_o afterward_o grow_v to_o be_v briar_n and_o thorn_n and_o so_o destructive_a to_o the_o wheat_n that_o the_o wheat_n can_v not_o be_v suffer_v if_o discern_v to_o live_v among_o they_o discusser_n but_o christ_n the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o father_n will_v never_o in_o open_v this_o parable_n so_o far_o obscure_v it_o or_o to_o call_v the_o church_n the_o world_n nor_o do_v it_o agree_v with_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o church_n or_o garden_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v style_v the_o world_n defender_n it_o be_v no_o impeachment_n to_o the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n to_o call_v his_o elect_a church_n and_o saint_n throughout_o the_o world_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o world_n else_o paul_n speak_v not_o by_o the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n when_o he_o say_v god_n be_v in_o christ_n reconcile_a the_o world_n unto_o himself_o 2_o cor._n 5.19_o and_o though_o the_o church_n within_o itself_o be_v a_o garden_n and_o sever_v from_o the_o world_n yet_o all_o the_o church_n be_v scatter_v and_o disperse_v throughout_o the_o world_n it_o be_v no_o more_o a_o improper_a speech_n to_o call_v the_o church_n the_o world_n then_o to_o speak_v of_o christ_n as_o die_v for_o the_o world_n when_o he_o die_v for_o his_o church_n chap._n 22._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 22._o chapter_n more_o of_o tare_n discusser_n in_o the_o former_a parable_n the_o lord_n jesus_n compare_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n to_o the_o sow_v of_o seed_n the_o true_a messenger_n of_o christ_n be_v sower_n who_o cast_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o kingdom_n upon_o 4._o sort_n of_o ground_n which_o 4._o sort_n of_o ground_n or_o heart_n of_o man_n can_v be_v suppose_v to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n nor_o will_v it_o ever_o be_v prove_v that_o the_o church_n consist_v of_o any_o more_o sort_n or_o nature_n of_o ground_n proper_o but_o one_o to_o wit_n the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n and_o the_o proper_a work_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v the_o prosperity_n and_o flourish_a of_o this_o sort_n of_o ground_n and_o not_o of_o the_o other_o three_o sort_n in_o the_o field_n of_o the_o world_n then_o be_v all_o those_o sort_n of_o ground_n high-way-side_n stony_a thorney_a hearer_n as_o well_o as_o the_o honest_a and_o good_a ground_n and_o i_o suppose_v it_o will_v not_o be_v say_v by_o the_o answerer_n that_o these_o three_o sort_n of_o bad_a ground_n be_v hypocrite_n or_o tare_n in_o the_o church_n defender_n answ_n 1._o but_o what_o if_o the_o answerer_n will_v say_v so_o it_o may_v be_v contrary_a to_o his_o supposal_n but_o not_o to_o the_o truth_n for_o i_o demand_v do_v not_o christ_n himself_o who_o be_v the_o chief_a sower_n do_v not_o he_o preach_v and_o sow_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o word_n to_o all_o those_o four_o sort_n of_o hearer_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o circumcision_n rom._n 15.8_o and_o preach_v seldom_o to_o 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of_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n for_o he_o shall_v begin_v to_o be_v consume_v long_o before_o by_o all_o the_o seven_o vial_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n revel_v 16._o which_o have_v be_v and_o will_v be_v in_o pour_v out_o many_o age_n before_o the_o great_a harvest_n of_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n yea_o i_o believe_v also_o he_o shall_v be_v destroy_v many_o age_n before_o then_o as_o the_o apostle_n john_n foretell_v in_o chap._n 20.21.22_o of_o the_o revelation_n and_o though_o it_o be_v translate_v in_o 2_o thess_n 2.8_o the_o lord_n shall_v destroy_v he_o with_o the_o brightness_n of_o his_o come_n yet_o the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v as_o well_o and_o more_o first_o signify_v presence_n then_o come_v the_o lord_n will_v destroy_v antichrist_n with_o the_o brightness_n of_o his_o presence_n in_o his_o sacred_a and_o civil_a ordinance_n sundry_a age_n before_o the_o brightness_n of_o his_o come_n to_o judgement_n otherwise_o we_o shall_v set_v john_n &_o paul_n at_o variance_n who_o speak_v by_o one_o and_o the_o same_o spirit_n of_o truth_n chap._n 27._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o 27._o chap._n discuss_v a_o doubt_n how_o minister_n may_v be_v bid_v to_o let_v antichristian_o alone_o in_o the_o civil_a state_n discusser_n if_o it_o be_v object_v these_o servant_n who_o the_o householder_n command_v to_o let_v the_o tare_n alone_o seem_v to_o be_v minister_n or_o messenger_n of_o the_o gospel_n how_o shall_v it_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o pluck_v up_o the_o tare_n or_o to_o let_v they_o alone_o if_o by_o the_o field_n be_v mean_v the_o world_n ans_fw-fr the_o apostle_n and_o in_o they_o all_o that_o succeed_v they_o receive_v from_o the_o lord_n a_o threefold_a charge_n 1._o to_o let_v they_o alone_o and_o not_o to_o pluck_v they_o up_o by_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o their_o present_a temporal_a destruction_n 2._o not_o to_o prophecy_n or_o denounce_v a_o present_a destruction_n or_o 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and_o to_o mortify_v the_o flesh_n of_o offender_n yet_o that_o be_v not_o supersedeas_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o neglect_v to_o punish_v those_o sin_n which_o the_o church_n have_v censure_v if_o the_o person_n censure_v do_v proceed_v to_o subvert_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o people_n the_o rest_n of_o the_o discusser_n discourse_n in_o this_o chapter_n be_v as_o judas_n speak_v cloud_n without_o water_n word_n without_o matter_n chap._n 46._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 46._o discuss_v rom._n 13._o discusser_n this_o scripture_n rom._n 13._o which_o it_o please_v the_o answerer_n to_o quote_v how_o have_v both_o himself_o and_o many_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n wrest_v not_o as_o peter_n write_v of_o the_o wicked_a to_o their_o eternal_a yet_o to_o their_o own_o and_o other_o tempor_n all_o destruction_n by_o civil_a war_n and_o combustion_n in_o the_o world_n defender_n this_o 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but_o will_v it_o thence_o follow_v that_o therefore_o minister_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o church_n or_o parent_n in_o the_o family_n chap._n 47._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 47._o discusser_n there_o be_v excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n in_o their_o time_n who_o have_v absolute_o deny_v the_o 13._o of_o the_o rom._n to_o concern_v any_o matter_n of_o the_o first_o table_n defender_n i_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o last_o use_n in_o that_o chapter_n put_v you_o on_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n which_o i_o hope_v the_o discusser_n himself_o will_v not_o deny_v much_o less_o say_v that_o any_o excellent_a and_o precious_a servant_n of_o god_n do_v absolute_o deny_v that_o such_o a_o duty_n concern_v the_o first_o table_n but_o what_o be_v it_o that_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n say_v discusser_n calvin_n say_v this_o whole_a discourse_n concern_v civil_a magistrate_n and_o therefore_o in_o vain_a do_v they_o who_o exereise_v power_n over_o conscience_n go_v about_o from_o this_o place_n to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n defender_n calvin_n judgement_n herein_o as_o general_o in_o other_o point_n be_v sound_a and_o agreeable_a to_o the_o text_n but_o not_o at_o all_o favour_v the_o discusser_n imagination_n this_o whole_a disputation_n say_v he_o be_v of_o civil_a government_n whereupon_o this_o inference_n be_v according_a to_o his_o own_o true_a meaning_n and_o scope_n therefore_o it_o do_v nor_o concern_n church-government_n therefore_o such_o church-governor_n as_o upon_o pretence_n of_o this_o text_n do_v make_v law_n without_o the_o word_n and_o beside_o the_o word_n to_o bind_v conscience_n and_o to_o usurp_v power_n over_o conscience_n they_o in_o vain_a go_v about_o to_o establish_v their_o sacrilegious_a tyranny_n from_o this_o place_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n church-governor_n
under_o they_o but_o they_o all_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n yea_o most_o averse_a and_o opposite_a yea_o cruel_a and_o bloody_a persecutor_n of_o the_o name_n and_o follower_n of_o jesus_n and_o yet_o unto_o these_o be_v subjection_n command_v now_o than_o i_o argue_v if_o paul_n have_v command_v this_o subjection_n to_o roman_a magistrate_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n to_o defend_v the_o truth_n to_o punish_v heretic_n neither_o of_o which_o they_o can_v discern_v nor_o judge_v of_o but_o by_o trust_n from_o other_o as_o pilate_n condemn_v jesus_n he_o must_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n have_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o defender_n not_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o man_n for_o beside_o calvin_n and_o beza_n who_o judgement_n you_o have_v hear_v all_o those_o interpreter_n who_o expound_v this_o place_n in_o the_o roman_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o punish_v spiritual_a evil_a doer_n as_o well_o as_o corporal_a they_o none_o of_o they_o do_v so_o judge_v that_o paul_n in_o command_v the_o church_n to_o yield_v subjection_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n do_v put_v out_o the_o eye_n of_o faith_n and_o reason_n and_o sense_n at_o once_o for_o first_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o yield_v subjection_n to_o the_o unrighteous_a decree_n of_o ignorant_a and_o pagan_a magistrate_n another_o thing_n to_o obey_v their_o ordinance_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o worship_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n the_o former_a of_o these_o christian_n do_v yield_v unto_o the_o roman_a magistrate_n even_o subjection_n unto_o the_o death_n the_o other_o they_o neither_o do_v nor_o aught_o to_o yield_v as_o know_v god_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v rather_o than_o man_n second_o though_o it_o be_v true_a whilst_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o magistrate_n be_v pagan_n and_o persecutor_n they_o be_v incompetent_a judge_n to_o discern_v and_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o spiritual_a matter_n of_o christian_a religion_n yet_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n who_o command_v a_o duty_n command_v all_o the_o necessary_a mean_n which_o tend_v to_o that_o duty_n and_o therefore_o in_o give_v they_o a_o power_n and_o charge_n to_o execute_v vengeance_n on_o evil_a doer_n and_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o spiritual_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o church_n as_o in_o matter_n of_o civil_a unrighteousness_n against_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o behove_v they_o to_o inquire_v and_o listen_v after_o true_a religion_n to_o hear_v and_o try_v all_o and_o upon_o serious_a deliberate_a and_o just_a scrute_v to_o hold_v fast_o that_o which_o be_v good_a and_o so_o prevent_v the_o disturbance_n thereof_o by_o the_o contrary_n it_o be_v no_o vain_a charge_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n psal_n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o if_o christ_n have_v a_o iron_n sceptre_n in_o his_o hand_n to_o crush_v all_o state_n and_o kingdom_n emperor_n and_o prince_n as_o well_o as_o private_a person_n be_v wise_a now_o therefore_o o_o you_o king_n be_v instruct_v you_o that_o be_v judge_n of_o the_o earth_n serve_v the_o lord_n with_o fear_n rejoice_v unto_o he_o with_o tremble_v kiss_v the_o son_n lest_o he_o be_v angry_a and_o you_o perish_v in_o the_o way_n three_o the_o case_n of_o religion_n wherein_o we_o allow_v civil_a magistrate_n to_o be_v judge_n be_v so_o fundamental_a and_o palpable_a that_o no_o magistrate_n studious_a of_o religion_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n but_o if_o he_o have_v any_o spiritual_a discern_a as_o all_o true_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v and_o even_o pagan_n have_v discern_v between_o innocent_a christian_n and_o turbulent_a seducer_n he_o can_v but_o judge_v of_o such_o gross_a corruption_n as_o be_v unsufferable_a in_o religion_n as_o have_v be_v open_v above_o though_o we_o reserve_v to_o the_o prophet_n and_o church_n judicium_fw-la propheticum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o yet_o we_o allow_v judicium_fw-la politicum_fw-la to_o civil_a magistrate_n studious_a of_o truth_n as_o all_o aught_o to_o be_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n unto_o all_o christian_n but_o as_o for_o such_o magigistrate_n as_o be_v mere_o natural_a and_o pagan_a though_o christian_n be_v bind_v to_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o they_o with_o patience_n yet_o such_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o forbear_v the_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n either_o in_o protect_v or_o punish_v matter_n of_o religion_n till_o they_o have_v learn_v so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n as_o may_v enable_v they_o to_o discern_v of_o thing_n that_o differ_v but_o this_o forbearance_n of_o they_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n in_o their_o calling_n nor_o for_o want_v of_o duty_n in_o their_o conscience_n but_o for_o want_v of_o evidence_n to_o they_o in_o the_o cause_n in_o which_o case_n magistrate_n be_v wont_a to_o forbear_v their_o exercise_n of_o their_o power_n and_o to_o respite_n judgement_n even_o in_o civil_a cause_n not_o for_o want_v of_o authority_n or_o duty_n to_o do_v justice_n but_o for_o want_v of_o ripe_a and_o full_a cognizance_n of_o the_o cause_n chap._n 49._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 49._o discusser_n why_o then_o do_v paul_n himself_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n act_n 25._o unless_o that_o caesar_n though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o yet_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v a_o fit_a judge_n in_o such_o matter_n answ_n paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n not_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o his_o religion_n but_o to_o defend_v he_o from_o civil_a violence_n and_o slanderous_a accusation_n about_o sedition_n mutiny_n civil_a disobedience_n etc._n etc._n from_o which_o caesar_n as_o a_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n ought_v to_o defend_v he_o defender_n this_o appeal_n of_o paul_n to_o caesar_n do_v evident_o hold_v forth_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a and_o needful_a use_n of_o civil_a magistracy_n unto_o christian_n 2._o that_o church_n officer_n even_o of_o high_a rank_n the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o other_o minister_n be_v subject_a to_o civil_a authority_n as_o well_o as_o private_a christian_n 3._o that_o paul_n do_v submit_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seate_n the_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n as_o well_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o in_o civil_a conversation_n for_o he_o plead_v his_o innocency_n that_o he_o be_v guilty_a in_o none_o of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o and_o for_o trial_n hereof_o he_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 11._o now_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o do_v accuse_v he_o be_v offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n as_o well_o as_o against_o caesar_n ver_fw-la 8._o and_o offence_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o against_o the_o temple_n be_v matter_n of_o religion_n and_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o paul_n appeal_v to_o caesar_n judgement-seat_n for_o trial_n of_o his_o innocency_n discusser_n but_o if_o paul_n in_o this_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n have_v submit_v his_o religion_n which_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o christ_n his_o ministry_n and_o ministration_n to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n tribunal_n he_o have_v sin_v first_o against_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n second_o against_o the_o cause_n of_o religion_n three_o against_o the_o holy_a call_v of_o a_o christian_n four_o against_o his_o own_o call_n of_o apostleship_n five_o against_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n defender_n all_o these_o sin_n may_v with_o some_o colour_n have_v be_v charge_v upon_o paul_n if_o he_o have_v appeal_v to_o caesar_n to_o judge_n whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v of_o god_n or_o no._n but_o that_o be_v no_o point_n of_o his_o appeal_v but_o whether_o his_o religion_n or_o ministry_n or_o ministration_n be_v guilty_a of_o any_o capital_a crime_n against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o against_o the_o temple_n or_o against_o caesar_n now_o in_o this_o case_n paul_n may_v safe_o appeal_v to_o caesar_n and_o that_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n of_o his_o apostolic_a and_o christian_a call_v and_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o his_o religion_n the_o reason_n against_o paul_n appeal_v in_o this_o case_n be_v but_o bul-rush_n chap._n 50._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 50._o discusser_n have_v dispatch_v two_o argument_n against_o the_o sound_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n power_n in_o spiritual_a cause_n in_o rom._n 13._o first_o from_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvin_n and_o beza_n the_o second_o from_o caesar_n incompetency_n and_o insufficiency_n to_o judge_n of_o spiritual_a matter_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o magistrate_n weapon_n he_o have_v a_o sword_n and_o that_o sword_n be_v a_o civil_a sword_n a_o sword_n of_o civil_a justice_n which_o be_v of_o a_o material_a and_o civil_a nature_n serve_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o person_n estate_n family_n liberty_n of_o
a_o city_n or_o civil_a state_n and_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o uncivil_a and_o injurious_a person_n or_o action_n by_o civil_a punishment_n and_o therefore_o this_o sword_n can_v extend_v now_o as_o it_o do_v in_o israel_n of_o old_a to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n cause_n to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n defender_n i_o easy_o hold_v with_o the_o discusser_n that_o the_o civil_a sword_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o spiritual_a and_o soul_n punishment_n but_o if_o the_o civil_a sword_n ought_v to_o extend_v to_o the_o defence_n of_o civil_a man_n in_o civil_a liberty_n then_o why_o not_o also_o to_o the_o like_a defence_n of_o church_n and_o spiritual_a person_n in_o their_o spiritual_a liberty_n it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o govern_v his_o people_n in_o righteousness_n and_o if_o spiritual_a liberty_n be_v in_o righteousness_n due_a to_o spiritual_a person_n as_o well_o as_o civil_a liberty_n to_o civil_a person_n doubtless_o the_o magistrate_n 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justification_n from_o sin_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n by_o our_o own_o work_n it_o be_v a_o antichristian_a corruption_n in_o worship_n to_o worship_v angel_n or_o saint_n or_o image_n it_o be_v a_o antichristian_a corruption_n in_o government_n to_o take_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o such_o a_o head_n as_o have_v power_n to_o make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n to_o authorise_v scripture_n to_o be_v canonical_a to_o add_v other_o book_n to_o scripture_n with_o like_a authority_n to_o be_v himself_o the_o only_a authentical_a interpreter_n of_o scripture_n and_o judge_n of_o controversy_n these_o and_o the_o like_a corruption_n be_v such_o as_o make_v antichrist_n a_o son_n of_o perdition_n and_o they_o that_o be_v lead_v by_o he_o to_o fall_v into_o like_a perdition_n with_o he_o of_o one_o of_o these_o point_v paul_n say_v they_o that_o hold_v it_o hold_v not_o the_o head_n col._n 2.18_o 19_o of_o another_o of_o these_o paul_n say_v they_o that_o hold_v it_o be_v abolish_v from_o christ_n gal._n 5.4_o the_o like_a we_o may_v say_v of_o all_o the_o rest_n yet_o in_o time_n of_o former_a darkness_n some_o of_o the_o faithful_a member_n of_o christ_n might_n and_o be_v for_o a_o time_n entangle_v with_o a_o yoke_n of_o bondage_n in_o some_o or_o most_o or_o all_o of_o these_o particular_n out_o of_o which_o the_o lord_n at_o length_n rescue_v they_o by_o variety_n of_o temptation_n and_o by_o some_o break_n forth_o of_o light_n in_o the_o mouth_n of_o some_o of_o his_o witness_n in_o every_o age_n but_o while_o any_o of_o they_o walk_v in_o these_o or_o like_a corruption_n they_o may_v just_o be_v debar_v from_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n or_o stand_v fast_o in_o they_o after_o conviction_n they_o may_v just_o be_v cast_v forth_o out_o of_o church-fellowship_n but_o there_o be_v other_o corruption_n and_o antichristian_a corruption_n too_o which_o because_o they_o do_v not_o subvert_v the_o foundation_n neither_o of_o faith_n nor_o of_o church-order_n i_o will_v not_o say_v that_o they_o separate_v from_o christ_n no_o not_o as_o he_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o then_o if_o some_o whole_a church_n be_v leaven_v with_o they_o they_o may_v soon_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n but_o we_o see_v the_o contrary_a in_o scripture_n the_o high_a place_n be_v tolerate_v in_o judah_n and_o yet_o judah_n cease_v not_o to_o be_v a_o church_n and_o by_o like_a proportion_n some_o more_o high_a and_o eminent_a power_n may_v be_v give_v by_o some_o church_n to_o their_o officer_n according_a to_o a_o antichristian_a pattern_n in_o some_o measure_n and_o yet_o they_o not_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o church_n david_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n may_v bring_v up_o the_o ark_n of_o god_n in_o a_o cart_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o
philistines_n and_o yet_o not_o disannul_v their_o church-estate_n and_o by_o like_a proportion_n so_o may_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n take_v up_o some_o order_n as_o the_o cart_v of_o some_o part_n of_o their_o worship_n upon_o a_o book_n after_o the_o manner_n of_o antichrist_n and_o yet_o not_o forthwith_o evacuate_v their_o church-estate_n but_o this_o let_v i_o further_o add_v that_o a_o godly_a person_n may_v have_v some_o kind_n of_o communion_n so_o far_o as_o hear_v the_o word_n from_o a_o minister_n well_o gift_v by_o christ_n to_o who_o call_v some_o corruption_n may_v cleave_v both_o in_o his_o church-estate_n and_o in_o his_o ordination_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o no_o antichristian_a pollution_n at_o all_o may_v cleave_v or_o redound_v to_o the_o hearer_n by_o his_o hear_n of_o he_o and_o this_o be_v the_o principal_a exception_n which_o the_o examiner_n take_v against_o some_o of_o the_o member_n of_o our_o church_n &_o against_o all_o the_o church_n for_o their_o sake_n we_o shall_v further_o god_n will_v clear_v when_o the_o examiner_n put_v it_o upon_o we_o in_o the_o sequel_n mean_a while_n we_o profess_v as_o we_o do_v believe_v that_o such_o a_o action_n be_v not_o any_o church-communion_n with_o antichrist_n nor_o do_v so_o enthrall_v the_o people_n of_o god_n unto_o antichrist_n as_o to_o separate_v they_o from_o christ_n no_o not_o as_o he_o be_v head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o answer_n which_o upon_o occasio_fw-la of_o this_o point_n the_o examiner_n give_v to_o the_o papist_n question_n where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n though_o it_o seem_v to_o he_o well_o and_o good_a yet_o it_o gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o straitn_v the_o holy_a counsel_n of_o god_n in_o scripture_n the_o question_n say_v he_o be_v thus_o well_o answer_v to_o wit_n that_o since_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n truth_n and_o the_o holy_a city_n according_a to_o the_o prophecy_n rev._n 11._o &_o 13._o have_v be_v tread_v underfoot_n and_o the_o whole_a earth_n have_v wander_v after_o the_o beast_n yet_o god_n have_v stir_v up_o witness_n to_o prophecy_n in_o sackcloth_n against_o the_o beast_n during_o his_o 42_o month_n reign_n nevertheless_o these_o witness_n have_v in_o their_o time_n more_o or_o less_o submit_v to_o antichrist_n and_o his_o church_n worship_n ministry_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o consequent_o have_v be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o true_a church_n that_o be_v christ_n take_v for_o the_o church_n in_o the_o true_a profession_n of_o that_o holy_a way_n of_o worship_n which_o he_o himself_o at_o first_o appoint_v this_o answer_n give_v away_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o papist_n they_o demand_v where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n this_o answer_n give_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o since_o the_o apostasy_n there_o be_v no_o particular_a church_n extant_a in_o the_o world_n this_o full_o satisfi_v their_o desire_n and_o expectation_n for_o if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o world_n for_o so_o many_o century_n of_o year_n till_o luther_n than_o they_o ready_o conclude_v that_o their_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v before_o luther_n the_o only_a church_n in_o the_o world_n for_o they_o urge_v it_o and_o i_o know_v not_o how_o we_o can_v fair_o deny_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n even_o that_o church_n to_o which_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v commit_v which_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n be_v that_o against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prevail_v and_o so_o not_o all_o the_o power_n of_o antichrist_n if_o then_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n shall_v never_o cease_v and_o yet_o during_o all_o that_o time_n of_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n no_o church_n be_v extant_a in_o the_o world_n but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n then_o during_o all_o that_o time_n which_o be_v not_o yet_o expire_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v and_o have_v be_v the_o only_a church_n of_o christ_n these_o many_o age_n beside_o as_o this_o answerer_n gratifi_v the_o papist_n and_o make_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n mat._n 16.18_o 19_o of_o none_o effect_v so_o it_o straitn_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n in_o the_o very_a text_n of_o scripture_n allege_v by_o himself_o for_o in_o that_o text_n rev._n 11._o where_o the_o outward_a court_n be_v give_v to_o the_o gentile_n that_o be_v ecclesiastical_a court_n give_v to_o antichrist_n &_o his_o clergy_n v._n 2._o there_o also_o a_o rod_n or_o reed_n be_v give_v by_o the_o angel_n unto_o john_n to_o measure_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o the_o altar_n and_o they_o that_o worship_n therein_o v._o 1._o which_o evident_o hold_v forth_o that_o even_o then_o there_o be_v somewhere_o extant_a the_o temple_n that_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o have_v communion_n with_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n there_o call_v the_o altar_n and_o the_o temple_n be_v furnish_v with_o true_a worshipper_n and_o all_o measure_v according_a to_o the_o pattern_n of_o apostolical_a rule_n what_o if_o ecclesiastical_a story_n be_v deficient_a in_o tell_v we_o the_o time_n and_o place_n of_o their_o church-assembly_n be_v therefore_o the_o word_n of_o god_n deficient_a or_o the_o church_n deficient_a because_o humane_a story_n be_v deficient_a great_a have_v be_v the_o industry_n and_o vigilancy_n of_o satan_n and_o antichrist_n to_o blot_v out_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lay_v all_o monument_n and_o record_n of_o such_o holy_a assembly_n but_o yet_o sometime_o their_o own_o inquisitor_n confess_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o waldenses_n or_o man_n of_o that_o way_n have_v be_v extant_a a_o tempore_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la furthermore_o evident_a it_o be_v that_o when_o the_o dragon_n persecute_v the_o woman_n that_o be_v the_o church_n the_o church_n flee_v into_o the_o wilderness_n and_o be_v there_o nourish_v for_o a_o time_n and_o time_n and_o half_o a_o time_n rev._n 12.14_o which_o be_v all_o the_o time_n wherein_o the_o beast_n reign_v rev._n 13.5_o and_o wherein_o the_o gentile_n have_v obtain_v rule_n in_o the_o court_n tread_v down_o the_o holy_a city_n underfoot_n rev._n 11.2_o moreover_o evident_a also_o it_o be_v that_o all_o the_o angel_n or_o minister_n of_o god_n wrath_n that_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n do_v all_o of_o they_o issue_n forth_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o out_o of_o the_o temple_n as_o then_o open_v rev._n 15.5_o 6_o which_o argue_v that_o the_o temple_n or_o church_n be_v not_o only_o then_o visible_a but_o open_o visible_a not_o visible_a only_o to_o the_o secret_a assembly_n of_o the_o true_a worshipper_n but_o open_o conspicuous_a to_o they_o that_o have_v not_o see_v it_o before_o now_o how_o all_o those_o seven_o angel_n shall_v come_v out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o it_o open_o visible_a and_o all_o of_o they_o pour_v out_o their_o vial_n upon_o the_o antichristian_a state_n by_o seven_o degree_n to_o the_o utter_a desolation_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o no_o church_n extant_a either_o before_o luther_n or_o since_o luther_n till_o the_o utter_a extirpation_n of_o antichrist_n pass_v all_o my_o comprehension_n to_o chap._n xiii_o his_o 13_o chapter_n be_v take_v up_o in_o examine_v and_o answer_v a_o second_o answer_n which_o i_o give_v to_o his_o objection_n propound_v above_o in_o chap._n 10._o the_o answer_n be_v this_o as_o he_o set_v it_o down_o second_o we_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o church-fellowship_n that_o be_v so_o necessary_a that_o without_o it_o a_o church_n can_v be_v that_o the_o member_n admit_v thereunto_o shall_v all_o of_o they_o see_v and_o express_o bewail_v all_o the_o pollution_n which_o they_o have_v be_v defile_v with_o in_o their_o former_a church-fellowship_n ministry_n worship_n government_n etc._n etc._n if_o they_o see_v and_o bewail_v so_o much_o of_o their_o former_a pollution_n as_o do_v enthrall_v they_o to_o antichrist_n so_o as_o to_o 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shape_n of_o a_o answer_n but_o as_o little_a substance_n the_o great_a question_n here_o say_v he_o will_v be_v whether_o the_o corinthian_n in_o their_o first_o constitution_n be_v separate_v or_o no_o from_o such_o idol_n temple_n and_o this_o mr._n cotton_n neither_o do_v nor_o can_v deny_v a_o church_n estate_n be_v a_o state_n of_o marriage_n unto_o christ_n jesus_n and_o so_o paul_n profess_o say_v he_o have_v espouse_v they_o as_o a_o chaste_a virgin_n unto_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 11._o reply_n 1._o to_o put_v any_o substance_n into_o this_o answer_n or_o any_o force_n pertinent_a to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n it_o must_v be_v no_o great_a question_n but_o clear_a out_o of_o question_n that_o these_o corinthian_n in_o their_o first_o constitution_n be_v clean_o and_o absolute_o separate_v from_o such_o idol_n temple_n and_o that_o not_o only_o local_o but_o in_o their_o soul_n and_o judgement_n mind_n and_o heart_n utter_o cut_v off_o from_o such_o unclean_a touch_v so_o that_o 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