advice_n to_o the_o confuter_n of_o bellarmin_n with_o some_o consideration_n upon_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n with_o allowance_n london_n print_v by_o henry_n hill_n printer_n to_o the_o king_n be_v most_o excellent_a majesty_n for_o his_o household_n and_o chapel_n 1687._o advice_n to_o the_o confuter_n of_o bellarmin_n with_o some_o consideration_n upon_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o apprehend_v it_o be_v much_o easy_a confute_v bellarmin_n over_o a_o pot_n than_o by_o take_v pen_n in_o hand_n and_o write_v a_o answer_n and_o yet_o i_o fear_v it_o be_v possible_a by_o the_o powerful_a influence_n of_o a_o ill_a habit_n that_o a_o man_n may_v have_v so_o often_o knock_v down_o that_o roman_a champion_n with_o a_o bellarmin_n thou_o lie_v under_o a_o bush_n that_o he_o may_v be_v blow_v up_o with_o a_o vanity_n of_o be_v as_o able_a to_o meet_v and_o overthrow_v he_o in_o the_o field_n of_o controversy_n i_o do_v pretend_v that_o 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