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A65870 Judgment fixed upon the accuser of our brethren and the real Christian-Quaker vindicated from the persecuting outrage of apostate informers chiefly from W. Rogers, F. Bugg, T. Crisp, John Pennyman and Jeffery Bullock ... / by that contemned servant of Christ George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1682 (1682) Wing W1937; ESTC R34747 166,538 377

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and_o peace_n of_o spirit_n in_o such_o lesser_a circumstance_n imply_v or_o include_v that_o indifferency_n before_o which_o be_v exclude_v the_o great_a more_o weighty_a and_o necessary_a thing_n relate_v to_o good_a order_n holiness_n of_o life_n etc._n etc._n for_o there_o may_v be_v such_o a_o indifferency_n in_o some_o circumstance_n wherein_o we_o may_v condescend_v to_o weak_a brethren_n so_o far_o as_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n will_v admit_v they_o be_v such_o as_o may_v not_o alter_v the_o property_n from_o be_v good_a and_o lawful_a nor_o disturb_v to_o our_o christian-society_n yet_o there_o be_v other_o material_a thing_n and_o circumstance_n relate_v our_o christian_a society_n good_a order_n and_o holy_a live_n that_o can_v be_v make_v indifferent_a and_o we_o plead_v not_o at_o all_o for_o empty_a ceremony_n in_o church_n order_n or_o discipline_n but_o such_o as_o have_v a_o real_a service_n and_o good_a end_n in_o they_o nor_o be_v we_o for_o a_o church_n who_o 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many_o upright_a one_o
christ_n to_o execute_v outward_a law_n order_n etc._n etc._n in_o a_o outward_a form_n of_o church-government_n or_o if_o it_o be_v popery_n or_o like_o the_o pope_n or_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o new_a covenant_n so_o to_o do_v as_o he_o have_v insinuate_v what_o and_o where_o be_v those_o help_n and_o government_n which_o god_n in_o his_o wisdom_n have_v afford_v in_o his_o church_n in_o subjection_n to_o christ_n be_v no_o visible_a person_n instrumental_a therein_o by_o the_o power_n of_o christ_n or_o be_v they_o help_v and_o government_n or_o helper_n in_o government_n without_o visible_a person_n be_v apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n elder_n overseer_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o christian_a church_n no_o visible_a person_n or_o not_o so_o endue_v with_o power_n from_o christ_n to_o be_v helper_n in_o the_o government_n see_v 1_o cor._n 12_o 28._o i_o confess_v i_o know_v not_o how_o to_o reconcile_v our_o opposer_n to_o himself_o in_o these_o matter_n no_o more_o than_o i_o can_v find_v reason_n or_o proof_n for_o his_o black_a charge_n of_o impious_a prevaricate_a penman_n oh_o impious_a prevaricator_n perverse_a and_o hard_a heart_n qualify_v like_o a_o proud_a prelate_n the_o penman_n iniquity_n angry_a waspish_a pen_n etc._n etc._n thus_o he_o i_o must_v needs_o say_v he_o be_v far_o more_o loud_a in_o his_o censure_n then_o in_o his_o proof_n if_o our_o opposer_n do_v impartial_o consider_v and_o compare_v william_n penn_n address_n to_o protestant_n quote_v by_o he_o he_o will_v see_v there_o be_v no_o lash_n to_o the_o penman_n as_o he_o false_o affirm_v see_v w._n p._n grant_n that_o the_o one_o shepherd_n may_v have_v many_o servant_n p._n 44._o and_o on_o 2_o cor._n 4.1_o 2._o he_o further_o say_v here_o be_v the_o utmost_a imposition_n the_o apostle_n make_v use_v of_o he_o require_v not_o man_n to_o receive_v he_o without_o evidence_n etc._n etc._n p._n 44._o no_o more_o do_v we_o who_o christ_n have_v call_v forth_o in_o his_o service_n and_o ministry_n in_o this_o his_o day_n who_o by_o the_o manifestation_n of_o truth_n commend_v ourselves_o to_o every_o man_n conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n have_v renounce_v the_o hide_a thing_n of_o dishonesty_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o complain_v for_o want_v of_o evidence_n or_o of_o imposition_n without_o evidence_n in_o plain_o discover_v or_o show_v the_o hide_a thing_n of_o dishonesty_n truth_n in_o its_o manifestation_n both_o in_o the_o ministry_n and_o in_o the_o hearer_n conscience_n be_v evidence_n both_o against_o what_o be_v dishonest_a and_o for_o what_o be_v honest_a god_n will_v not_o have_v man_n blind_a in_o their_o duty_n their_o own_o negligence_n and_o prejudice_n be_v cause_n of_o blindness_n nor_o have_v this_o person_n convict_v we_o of_o plead_v for_o or_o set_v up_o imposition_n without_o evidence_n in_o the_o conscience_n or_o of_o impose_v a_o blind_a obedience_n or_o put_v any_o person_n thereupon_o no_o my_o very_a soul_n be_v against_o that_o and_o though_o w._n p._n also_o have_v write_v against_o imposition_n without_o conviction_n the_o penman_n seem_v to_o have_v no_o other_o sense_n nor_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o he_o be_v either_o against_o church_n discipline_n outward_a order_n or_o form_n of_o church-government_n but_o for_o these_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o christian_a society_n he_o be_v principled_a for_o the_o true_a church_n have_v power_n from_o christ_n to_o give_v judgement_n spiritual_a censure_n and_o sentence_n against_o all_o dark_a spirit_n that_o sow_v discord_n and_o make_v division_n and_o against_o all_o ungodly_a loose_a disorderly_a and_o scandalous_a walk_n and_o walker_n under_o profession_n of_o truth_n i_o will_v adventure_v to_o quote_v william_n penn_n address_n to_o protestant_n to_o show_v his_o principle_n and_o sense_n in_o these_o matter_n in_o page_n 214._o he_o say_v no_o scripture-church-discipline_n be_v hereby_o oppugned_a or_o weaken_v let_v not_o the_o sentence_n end_n in_o violence_n upon_o the_o conscience_n unconvince_v let_v whoso_o will_v expound_v or_o determine_v so_o it_o be_v according_a to_o true_a church-discipline_n which_o can_v be_v exercise_v on_o they_o only_o who_o have_v willing_o join_v themselves_o in_o that_o covenant_n of_o union_n etc._n etc._n p._n 215._o let_v we_o observe_v what_o sort_n of_o church-government_n the_o apostle_n recommend_v avoid_v foolish_a question_n and_o contention_n etc._n etc._n a_o man_n that_o be_v a_o heretic_n after_o the_o first_o and_o second_o admonition_n reject_v etc._n etc._n and_o on_o phil._n 3.15_o he_o do_v not_o say_v you_o shall_v be_v fine_v pillage_v excommunicate_v and_o fling_v into_o prison_n if_o you_o be_v not_o of_o our_o mind_n p._n 216._o on_o 2_o tim._n 2.22_o 23_o 24_o 25._o here_o be_v both_o faith_n and_o government_n religion_n and_o duty_n all_o that_o become_v we_o towards_o god_n our_o brethren_n our_o neighbour_n yea_o our_o opposer_n and_o enemy_n and_o w._n p._n in_o his_o brief_a examination_n and_o state_n of_o liberty_n spiritual_n he_o do_v more_o particular_o explain_v and_o clear_v the_o point_n to_o friend_n first_o in_o his_o epistle_n say_v christ_n liberty_n be_v obtain_v through_o his_o cross_n they_o that_o will_v be_v his_o freeman_n must_v be_v his_o bonds-man_n and_o wear_v his_o bless_a yoke_n his_o liberty_n be_v from_o sin_n not_o to_o sin_n to_o do_v his_o will_n not_o our_o own_o and_o second_o he_o speak_v far_a to_o it_o in_o the_o say_a examination_n observe_v here_o w._n p._n plead_v not_o for_o a_o liberty_n of_o conscience_n in_o opposition_n to_o true_a church-government_n discipline_n or_o order_n but_o to_o those_o outward_a penalty_n persecution_n and_o punishment_n corporal_a and_o pecuniary_a mention_v and_o oppose_v by_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o we_o which_o be_v no_o liberty_n to_o make_v division_n or_o discord_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n or_o society_n of_o believer_n §_o 5._o to_o the_o question_n whether_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n in_o any_o case_n that_o be_v matter_n of_o conscience_n to_o give_v a_o positive_a sentence_n and_o decision_n which_o may_v be_v obligatory_a upon_o believer_n to_o this_o r._n b._n answer_v affirmative_o she_o have_v anarch_n p._n 48._o and_o whereas_o r._n b._n plead_v for_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n in_o some_o case_n of_o conscience_n to_o give_v a_o positive_a sentence_n or_o decision_n which_o may_v be_v obligatory_a upon_o believer_n to_o this_o w._n r._n say_v which_o clear_o show_v to_o we_o r._n b_o his_o meaning_n to_o be_v that_o in_o some_o case_n the_o conscience_n of_o believer_n ought_v to_o be_v bind_v by_o the_o positive_a sentence_n of_o other_o to_o which_o he_o add_v without_o leave_v any_o liberty_n for_o a_o believer_n to_o refuse_v to_o submit_v on_o the_o account_n of_o not_o see_v it_o his_o duty_n to_o submit_v this_o meaning_n and_o government_n say_v w._n r._n over_o believer_n we_o take_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o truth_n and_o liberty_n we_o have_v in_o christ_n jesus_n etc._n etc._n p._n 44._o herein_o he_o appear_v both_o unfair_a in_o his_o citation_n and_o mistake_v in_o his_o construction_n for_o 1_o sy_n the_o some_o case_n intend_v wherein_o a_o positive_a judgement_n or_o sentence_n from_o some_o member_n or_o believer_n be_v bind_v upon_o other_o be_v such_o case_n wherein_o only_o the_o truth_n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n do_v give_v the_o judgement_n through_o some_o or_o other_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ._n the_o only_a proper_a judge_n of_o controversy_n in_o the_o church_n be_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o the_o power_n of_o decide_v sole_o lie_v in_o it_o say_v r._n b._n anarch_n pag._n 66._o as_o also_o that_o god_n have_v ordinary_o in_o communicate_v his_o will_n under_o his_o gospel_n employ_v such_o who_o he_o make_v use_v of_o in_o gather_v his_o church_n and_o in_o feed_v &_o watch_v over_o they_o though_o not_o exclude_v other_o thus_o r._n b_n anarchy_n of_o the_o ranter_n p._n 67_o 68_o observe_v here_o that_o he_o place_v the_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n as_o bind_v and_o to_o be_v submit_v unto_o by_o other_o profess_v the_o same_o faith_n on_o the_o truth_n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n the_o will_n of_o god_n 2_o dly_z and_o therefore_o the_o judgement_n be_v not_o place_v upon_o any_o imposition_n of_o government_n over_o believer_n contrary_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o truth_n or_o liberty_n that_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n for_o the_o judgement_n of_o truth_n or_o of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n which_o unite_v in_o one_o mind_n and_o judgement_n can_v be_v contrary_a to_o that_o principle_n nor_o without_o evidence_n in_o the_o conscience_n for_o conviction_n to_o oblige_v and_o the_o conscience_n thus_o oblige_v be_v not_o without_o true_a sight_n sense_n or_o knowledge_n of_o duty_n therein_o because_o
it_o be_v conscience_n oblige_v not_o a_o blind_a affection_n so_o it_o be_v not_o to_o impose_v a_o blind_a submission_n though_o some_n want_v of_o persuasion_n may_v probable_o proceed_v from_o their_o be_v harden_v through_o rebellion_n as_o r._n b._n intimate_v anarch_n p._n 67._o and_o their_o contradiction_n in_o that_o case_n will_v not_o excuse_v they_o from_o be_v guilty_a of_o disobey_v god_n because_o it_o be_v from_o his_o spirit_n the_o sentence_n proceed_v and_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n both_o to_o see_v receive_v &_o submit_v to_o what_o be_v just_o require_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o give_v forth_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n through_o his_o servant_n to_o end_n controversy_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o bespeak_v or_o intend_v any_o design_n of_o such_o imposition_n as_o to_o enforce_v any_o upon_o a_o blind_a submission_n or_o obedience_n in_o such_o a_o harden_a condition_n for_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n strive_v with_o they_o to_o open_v their_o eye_n and_o enlighten_v their_o understanding_n that_o they_o may_v see_v and_o know_v in_o their_o own_o conscience_n first_o their_o duty_n and_o then_o submit_v in_o what_o be_v according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v the_o judgement_n of_o his_o spirit_n which_o make_v its_o way_n with_o its_o own_o evidence_n to_o the_o conscience_n and_o heart_n of_o person_n if_o not_o whole_o harden_v through_o rebellion_n against_o god_n spirit_n in_o themselves_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v sure_a make_v wise_a the_o simple_n the_o commandment_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v pure_a enlighten_v the_o eye_n psal._n 19_o 3_o dly_z then_o what_o power_n or_o freedom_n can_v any_o minister_n or_o servant_n of_o christ_n have_v to_o leave_v any_o liberty_n for_o a_o believer_n to_o refuse_v submission_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o servant_n or_o believer_n where_o christ_n leave_v none_o or_o to_o grant_v that_o he_o may_v not_o see_v it_o his_o duty_n to_o submit_v and_o thereupon_o to_o refuse_v when_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n who_o know_v the_o creature_n capacity_n give_v the_o judgement_n and_o require_v submission_n there_o be_v no_o just_a ground_n nor_o pretence_n for_o such_o indulgence_n which_o tend_v to_o rebellion_n and_o ranterism_n but_o rather_o for_o the_o servant_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v faithful_a and_o steadfast_a in_o their_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n which_o they_o know_v be_v both_o in_o itself_o just_o and_o proceed_v from_o his_o spirit_n whether_o it_o be_v by_o other_o receive_v or_o reject_v he_o that_o have_v a_o ear_n to_o hear_v let_v he_o hear_v what_o the_o spirit_n say_v unto_o the_o church_n which_o do_v many_o time_n speak_v through_o instrument_n as_o former_o and_o further_o it_o be_v neither_o a_o false_a sense_n nor_o wicked_a construction_n to_o say_v that_o our_o opposer_n be_v for_o a_o liberty_n for_o believer_n to_o refuse_v to_o submit_v on_o account_n of_o not_o see_v it_o their_o duty_n therefore_o that_o believer_n who_o be_v member_n of_o christ_n church_n may_v refuse_v submission_n to_o their_o brethren_n in_o thing_n that_o be_v in_o themselves_o just_a and_o reasonable_a according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o truth_n in_o the_o conscience_n on_o pretence_n of_o not_o see_v it_o their_o duty_n etc._n etc._n i_o do_v sincere_o profess_v i_o do_v not_o find_v a_o more_o natural_a construction_n that_o our_o opposer_n own_o word_n be_v without_o distinction_n will_v bear_v all_o material_a and_o precedent_a cause_n and_o circumstance_n of_o this_o very_a point_n in_o controversy_n consider_v for_o first_o the_o submission_n plead_v for_o by_o r._n b._n among_o believer_n and_o in_o the_o church_n be_v to_o the_o judgement_n and_o positive_a sentence_n proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n or_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n and_o servant_n second_o our_o adversary_n oppose_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n in_o any_o case_n of_o conscience_n to_o give_v positive_a sentence_n or_o decision_n which_o may_v be_v obligatory_a on_o believer_n render_v this_o a_o government_n over_o believer_n contrary_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o truth_n and_o liberty_n in_o christ_n jesus_n see_v accuser_n etc._n etc._n from_o p._n 62_o to_o 81._o when_o no_o other_o submission_n be_v plead_v for_o nor_o any_o other_o intend_v by_o we_o than_o to_o such_o judgement_n or_o sentence_n as_o original_o proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o will_n and_o mind_n of_o god_n now_o do_v not_o our_o adversary_n opposition_n tend_v to_o divide_v believer_n and_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o from_o a_o true_a sight_n and_o performance_n of_o their_o duty_n in_o case_n wherein_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n give_v the_o judgement_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v just_a and_o reasonable_a for_o to_o the_o question_n whether_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v power_n in_o any_o case_n of_o conscience_n to_o give_v positive_a sentence_n which_o may_v be_v obligatory_a upon_o believer_n r._n b._n answer_v affirmative_o she_o have_v anarch_n p._n 48._o to_o which_o w._n r._n reply_n this_o government_n over_o believer_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o truth_n and_o liberty_n in_o christ_n jesus_n do_v not_o this_o plain_o imply_v that_o in_o no_o case_n of_o conscience_n a_o believer_n be_v bind_v to_o submit_v to_o the_o positive_a sentence_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n or_o other_o member_n thereof_o but_o that_o a_o believer_n may_v refuse_v submission_n on_o the_o account_n of_o not_o see_v it_o his_o duty_n to_o submit_v this_o be_v w._n r_n great_a pretence_n and_o supposition_n and_o this_o in_o any_o case_n of_o conscience_n without_o distinction_n the_o term_n of_o the_o question_n and_o opposition_n before_o cite_v be_v general_a which_o suppose_v blindness_n and_o discord_n in_o believer_n i_o can_v grant_v he_o against_o any_o true_a or_o sincere_a believer_n who_o be_v faithful_a to_o christ_n in_o their_o measure_n of_o grace_n receive_v such_o will_v neither_o want_v a_o sight_n of_o those_o duty_n or_o thing_n the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n teach_v and_o require_v of_o they_o nor_o submission_n one_o to_o another_o therein_o but_o in_o humbleness_n of_o mind_n submit_v themselves_o one_o to_o another_o in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n 3.2_o ephes._n 5.1.21_o here_o the_o young_a submit_v to_o the_o elder_a and_o all_o one_o to_o another_o be_v clothe_v with_o humility_n for_o god_n resist_v the_o proud_a but_o give_v grace_n to_o the_o humble_a 1_o pet._n 5.5_o this_o humility_n and_o submission_n be_v among_o the_o primitive_a christian_n and_o be_v very_o commendable_a among_o they_o and_o none_o but_o the_o proud_a oppose_v it_o and_o far_o the_o sentence_n judgement_n and_o determination_n proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o his_o church_n be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o he_o that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n where_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o midst_n be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a man._n more-eve_a our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n know_v how_o much_o or_o how_o little_a a_o burden_n to_o proportion_n and_o lay_v upon_o his_o sincere_a and_o true_a follower_n from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o least_o of_o they_o suitable_a to_o their_o capacity_n he_o know_v our_o weakness_n and_o be_v touch_v with_o the_o feel_n of_o our_o infirmity_n and_o have_v raise_v up_o a_o spiritual_a fellow-feeling_n of_o one_o another_o state_n and_o condition_n that_o we_o may_v bear_v each_o other_o burden_n the_o strong_a to_o bear_v with_o and_o help_v the_o weak_a and_o so_o fulfil_v the_o law_n of_o christ._n but_o see_v our_o opposer_n at_o length_n to_o acquit_v himself_o give_v we_o this_o concession_n pag._n 45._o viz._n i_o do_v say_v a_o believer_n in_o christ_n ought_v to_o submit_v to_o any_o reasonable_a just_a judgement_n answer_v the_o truth_n in_o the_o conscience_n when_o it_o relate_v to_o he_o let_v it_o spring_v from_o who_o it_o will_v i_o shall_v say_v the_o less_o in_o this_o point_n but_o william_n have_v thou_o be_v always_o of_o this_o mind_n if_o thou_o have_v thou_o be_v very_o inconsistent_a in_o thy_o writing_n and_o great_o wrong_v thyself_o by_o self-contradiction_n and_o than_o what_o signify_v all_o thy_o oppose_a r._n b._n for_o plead_v a_o conscientious_a submission_n in_o believer_n to_o the_o positive_a judgement_n or_o sentence_n which_o as_o he_o say_v proceed_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o some_o or_o other_o of_o their_o brethren_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n what_o amount_v all_o thy_o work_n of_o opposition_n and_o gainsaying_n unto_o now_o a_o believer_n in_o christ_n ought_v to_o submit_v to_o any_o reasonable_a just_a judgement_n let_v it_o spring_v from_o who_o it_o will_n and_o sure_o all_o judgement_n proceed_v
be_v present_a in_o his_o church_n this_o thy_o libertine_n plea_n tend_v to_o divide_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o leave_v believer_n who_o be_v member_n thereof_o in_o a_o liberty_n both_o of_o deny_v submission_n and_o in_o a_o ignorance_n or_o blindness_n concern_v what_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n may_v require_v of_o they_o which_o i_o can_v grant_v thou_o that_o any_o sincere_a believer_n be_v either_o so_o to_o be_v leave_v in_o such_o a_o liberty_n of_o refusal_n nor_o yet_o remain_v in_o such_o ignorance_n for_o he_o that_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n where_o christ_n be_v in_o the_o midst_n be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a man_n therefore_o thy_o plea_n tend_v to_o divide_v and_o make_v believer_n heathen_a be_v contrary_a to_o our_o principle_n and_o testimony_n receive_v from_o the_o beginning_n which_o be_v that_o life_n answer_v life_n the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n receive_v its_o own_o in_o man_n every_o live_a true_a member_n in_o some_o degree_n feel_v what_o proceed_v from_o its_o life_n in_o other_o member_n though_o all_o christ_n member_n be_v not_o come_v to_o the_o same_o measure_n and_o degree_n of_o growth_n strength_n and_o understanding_n yet_o there_o be_v so_o much_o inward_a sense_n and_o nearness_n in_o his_o life_n and_o faith_n as_o preserve_v they_o from_o confusion_n rebellion_n and_o opposition_n to_o one_o another_o or_o to_o any_o thing_n the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n say_v unto_o the_o church_n by_o any_o of_o they_o thy_o put_n and_o suppose_v case_n against_o we_o that_o be_v not_o thy_o argue_v from_o general_n to_o particular_n from_o principle_n to_o person_n from_o a_o plea_n for_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o its_o oblige_a judgement_n proceed_v from_o his_o spirit_n to_o reflect_v upon_o particular_a person_n as_o the_o penman_n and_o his_o brethren_n john_n and_o george_n and_o stephen_n 45._o etc._n etc._n p_o 45._o be_v empty_a trifle_a and_o impertinent_a and_o as_o vain_a and_o silly_a be_v the_o laughter_n and_o scorn_n which_o thereupon_o thou_o suppose_v and_o will_v stir_v up_o against_o the_o penman_n and_o his_o brethren_n all_o ground_a upon_o a_o false_a bottom_n namely_o thy_o uncharitable_a and_o false_a sense_n and_o censure_n against_o the_o penman_n viz._n that_o he_o be_v thirst_v after_o such_o a_o sort_n of_o subject_n that_o may_v be_v willing_a to_o follow_v his_o track_n though_o they_o know_v not_o whether_o it_o be_v right_a or_o wrong_n which_o be_v so_o utter_o false_a if_o thou_o intend_v i_o that_o such_o a_o desire_n never_o enter_v into_o my_o heart_n my_o soul_n abominate_v such_o a_o principle_n as_o to_o lead_v people_n on_o in_o such_o blindness_n again_o i_o do_v not_o make_v the_o reason_n of_o my_o discourse_n depend_v on_o a_o mere_a supposition_n nor_o yet_o on_o a_o bear_n affirmation_n that_o i_o and_o my_o brethren_n be_v the_o church_n &_o thou_o and_o thou_o not_o we_o be_v now_o on_o the_o defensive_a part_n and_o thou_o be_v not_o able_a to_o unchurch_n we_o we_o may_v give_v testimony_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o to_o our_o sense_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n with_o we_o and_o among_o we_o &_o of_o our_o continuance_n in_o love_n &_o unity_n in_o he_o and_o against_o thou_o and_o other_o apostasy_n and_o thou_o not_o able_a to_o confute_v we_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o discourse_n in_o the_o present_a controversy_n depend_v not_o on_o person_n but_o on_o undeniable_a principle_n and_o practice_n agreeable_a both_o to_o divine_a testimony_n revelation_n &_o undeniable_a evidence_n among_o man_n and_o wherein_o any_o of_o we_o have_v be_v move_v of_o the_o lord_n in_o his_o holy_a zeal_n to_o give_v positive_a judgement_n either_o concern_v spirit_n person_n or_o practice_n that_o appear_v not_o yet_o so_o evident_a to_o some_o as_o to_o we_o the_o day_n will_v make_v further_a discovery_n and_o declare_v it_o and_o the_o lord_n will_v appear_v witness_n and_o evidence_n in_o the_o case_n and_o thou_o shall_v then_o find_v that_o thy_o scorn_n and_o the_o laughter_n and_o scorn_n thou_o have_v suppose_v and_o seek_v to_o stir_v up_o against_o we_o will_v be_v turn_v into_o sorrow_n on_o thy_o part_n and_o thou_o may_v be_v ashamed_a of_o thy_o scorn_n and_o laughter_n and_o of_o compare_v our_o treatment_n with_o the_o papistical_a party_n towards_o the_o protestant_n and_o tell_v of_o follow_v the_o penmans_n papistical_a track_n p._n 46._o all_o ground_v on_o thy_o false_a sense_n before-cited_n though_o to_o i_o all_o thy_o scorn_n laughter_n false_a comparison_n and_o rattle_n thou_o know_v what_o i_o mean_v be_v all_o but_o like_o the_o crackle_n of_o thorn_n under_o a_o pot._n it_o be_v observable_a that_o in_o thy_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n etc._n etc._n thou_o be_v for_o take_v up_o a_o lamentation_n for_o the_o apostasy_n of_o your_o brethren_n as_o thy_o pretence_n be_v now_o thou_o be_v for_o scorn_n and_o laughter_n against_o they_o thou_o so_o censure_v yea_o to_o the_o presbyterian_o laughter_n and_o scorn_n thou_o be_v expose_v r._n r._n and_o for_o those_o instance_n he_o give_v for_o deconess_n in_o the_o gospel-time_n p._n 33._o though_o this_o be_v a_o truth_n which_o many_o protestant_a author_n have_v confirm_v beside_o paul_n own_o commendation_n of_o their_o sister_n phebe_n who_o he_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ministra_fw-la a_o servant_n of_o the_o church_n at_o cenchrea_n rom._n 16.1_o 2._o there_o be_v women-deacon_n who_o in_o their_o place_n do_v service_n in_o the_o church_n with_o respect_n to_o the_o sick_a and_o impotent_a etc._n etc._n but_o to_o return_v one_o while_o thou_o pretend_v to_o pray_v for_o the_o penman_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v mollify_v his_o hard_a heart_n p._n 42._o another_o while_n be_v for_o cause_v scorn_n and_o laughter_n against_o he_o thus_o but_o in_o pag._n 46._o thus_o thy_o hypocritical_a lament_v pray_v and_o thy_o scorn_v do_v much_o resemble_v thy_o confused_z work_n and_o what_o such_o thing_n be_v they_o thou_o insinuate_v against_o the_o penman_n and_o his_o brethren_n of_o which_o thou_o say_v thou_o can_v soon_o lay_v a_o new_a foundation_n to_o prove_v he_o and_o his_o brethren_n guilty_a of_o such_o thing_n as_o by_o his_o rule_n will_v tend_v to_o confusion_n rebellion_n and_o ranterism_n and_o what_o not_o p._n 46._o what_o thing_n be_v those_o we_o expect_v no_o mercy_n nor_o favour_n from_o thou_o thou_o have_v render_v we_o as_o obnoxious_a i_o think_v as_o of_o thyself_o thou_o can_v and_o this_o thy_o general_n and_o dark_a way_n of_o smite_v with_o what_o thing_n thou_o can_v prove_v the_o penman_n and_o his_o brethren_n guilty_a of_o as_o tend_v to_o rebellion_n and_o ranterism_n without_o mention_v what_o thing_n be_v very_o unfair_o to_o raise_v great_a suspicion_n against_o we_o and_o to_o render_v we_o high_o criminal_a odious_a and_o obnoxious_a somewhat_o like_o the_o treatment_n we_o 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