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A07868 The Iesuits antepast conteining, a repy against a pretensed aunswere to the Downe-fall of poperie, lately published by a masked Iesuite Robert Parsons by name, though he hide himselfe couertly vnder the letters of S.R. which may fitly be interpreted (a sawcy rebell.) Bell, Thomas, fl. 1593-1610. 1608 (1608) STC 1824; ESTC S101472 156,665 240

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