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A52018 Roman Catholicks uncertain whether there be any true priests or sacraments in the church of Rome evinced by an argument urg'd and maintain'd (upon their own principles) against Mr. Edward Goodall of Prescot in Lancashire / by Thomas Marsden ... Marsden, Thomas. 1688 (1688) Wing M725; ESTC R726 93,249 146

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revelation_n or_o some_o other_o way_n but_o he_o know_v it_o neither_o by_o any_o principle_n evident_o ground_v upon_o divine_a revelation_n nor_o any_o other_o way_n ergo_fw-la grace_n in_o the_o heart_n be_v a_o condition_n which_o no_o man_n live_v know_v whether_o it_o be_v perform_v in_o order_n to_o salvation_n salvation_n 13._o now_o sir_n and_o not_o till_o now_o be_o i_o oblige_v to_o assign_v the_o way_n by_o which_o true_a grace_n may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v in_o some_o or_o other_o though_o we_o know_v not_o who_o upon_o my_o denial_n of_o the_o minor_a when_o you_o be_v please_v to_o say_v ad_fw-la part_n i_o must_v tell_v which_o way_n i_o know_v it_o or_o give_v up_o my_o cause_n cause_n 14._o well_o without_o the_o formality_n of_o your_o distinction_n i_o say_v this_o may_v be_v know_v by_o a_o knowledge_n ground_v immediate_o on_o divine_a revelation_n the_o whole_a of_o this_o matter_n appear_v in_o scripture_n 1._o when_o our_o b._n saviour_n promise_v that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o his_o church_n 16.18_o church_n matt._n 16.18_o he_o say_v in_o effect_n that_o in_o despite_n of_o man_n and_o devil_n he_o will_v at_o all_o time_n even_o to_o the_o world_n end_n maintain_v some_o in_o his_o true_a faith_n and_o worship_n and_o also_o save_v they_o at_o last_o 2._o he_o determine_v true_a grace_n or_o purity_n of_o heart_n to_o be_v necessary_a in_o order_n to_o the_o salvation_n of_o such_o bless_a be_v the_o pure_a in_o heart_n for_o they_o shall_v see_v god_n 5.8_o god_n mat._n 5.8_o which_o word_n by_o true_a and_o unquestionable_a implication_n exclude_v all_o impure_a person_n from_o salvation_n but_o in_o many_o text_n such_o be_v formal_o exclude_v from_o it_o without_o holiness_n no_o man_n shall_v see_v the_o lord_n 12.14_o lord_n heb_fw-mi 12.14_o 3._o his_o promise_n