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keep_v his_o covenant_n ps_n 103._o 17._o 18._o ps_n 112._o 2._o etc._n etc._n i_o tell_v mr_n martial_n if_o he_o can_v show_v any_o more_o promise_n than_o i_o do_v i_o shall_v count_v they_o a_o treasure_n if_o not_o why_o do_v he_o endeavour_v to_o make_v i_o and_o my_o opinion_n odious_a to_o the_o people_n as_o if_o i_o put_v all_o the_o child_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n out_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o i_o do_v the_o child_n of_o the_o turk_n and_o acknowledge_v no_o more_o promise_n for_o the_o one_o then_o for_o the_o other_o whereas_o when_o he_o have_v say_v as_o much_o as_o he_o can_v for_o they_o he_o can_v bring_v no_o more_o promise_n for_o they_o then_o i_o do_v nor_o dare_v reject_v the_o limitation_n i_o restrain_v they_o by_o but_o say_v mr_n martial_n you_o leave_v they_o to_o have_v their_o actual_a stand_n in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n i_o ask_v whither_o the_o child_n have_v actual_a stand_v in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o 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visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n and_o i_o tell_v he_o examen_fw-la pag._n 41._o i_o fear_v he_o do_v it_o ad_fw-la faciendum_fw-la populum_fw-la to_o move_v the_o people_n by_o affright_v they_o by_o a_o bugbear_n word_n if_o they_o keep_v their_o child_n from_o baptism_n than_o they_o leave_v they_o to_o have_v a_o actual_a stand_n in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n or_o to_o please_v they_o by_o make_v they_o believe_v that_o by_o baptism_n their_o child_n be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n this_o i_o say_v not_o judge_v his_o heart_n but_o be_v jealous_a lest_o it_o be_v so_o and_o i_o confess_v i_o be_o still_o suspicious_a he_o do_v so_o because_o he_o still_o use_v it_o after_o he_o have_v be_v tell_v it_o and_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a engine_n to_o stir_v popular_a affection_n for_o how_o have_v the_o unbaptised_a infant_n a_o actual_a stand_n in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n unless_o it_o be_v true_a that_o all_o unbaptised_a person_n have_v a_o actual_a stand_n in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n which_o be_v false_a in_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la of_o old_a the_o convert_a thief_n on_o the_o cross_n constantine_n the_o great_a and_o many_o other_o who_o be_v in_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o the_o christ_n afore_o they_o be_v baptize_v on_o the_o other_o side_n thousand_o of_o people_n in_o america_n baptize_v by_o the_o spaniard_n have_v as_o visible_a stand_n in_o the_o devil_n kingdom_n as_o before_o i_o confess_v when_o the_o baptize_v profess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n than_o baptism_n be_v a_o note_n of_o a_o visible_a member_n and_o a_o distinguish_a badge_n between_o the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o the_o devil_n and_o so_o by_o baptism_n a_o person_n be_v exhibit_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o otherwise_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o a_o infant_n that_o make_v no_o profession_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v count_v after_o baptism_n a_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church_n more_o than_o before_o let_v a_o child_n of_o a_o christian_a be_v baptize_v and_o after_o be_v a_o infant_n and_o take_v by_o a_o turk_n be_v circumcise_v wherein_o be_v that_o child_n more_o a_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n then_o a_o turk_n child_n or_o be_v he_o not_o rather_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o mahomet_n then_o of_o christ_n be_v the_o janissary_n any_o whit_n the_o more_o christian_n because_o they_o be_v baptize_v infant_n of_o christian_a greek_n protestant_n writer_n be_v wont_a to_o define_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o christian_n a_o number_n of_o person_n that_o profess_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n so_o art_n 19_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o all_o sort_n of_o protestant_a writer_n now_o that_o which_o make_v the_o visible_a church_n make_v each_o member_n a_o visible_a member_n and_o that_o be_v profession_n baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o hear_v be_v note_n as_o they_o signify_v profession_n otherwise_o if_o a_o person_n be_v baptize_v if_o he_o shall_v hear_v or_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o do_v not_o profess_v the_o faith_n he_o shall_v not_o be_v a_o visible_a member_n for_o all_o that_o i_o confess_v i_o have_v meet_v with_o some_o write_n which_o put_v baptism_n into_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n as_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n and_o the_o word_n in_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o 7_o church_n of_o anabaptist_n about_o london_n be_v baptize_v into_o that_o faith_n artic._n 33._o be_v somewhat_o doubtful_a though_o they_o seem_v rather_o to_o import_v that_o baptism_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o right_a order_n of_o a_o christian_a church_n then_o to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n and_o i_o confess_v they_o that_o hold_v that_o member_n be_v add_v to_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o not_o otherwise_o and_o hold_v a_o nullity_n of_o paedo_fw-la baptism_n must_v needs_o say_v the_o church_n that_o have_v no_o other_o than_o infant-baptisme_n be_v no_o true_a church_n nor_o their_o member_n church-member_n as_o master_n marshal_n say_v pag._n 84._o of_o his_o defence_n and_o so_o voluntary_a separation_n necessary_a but_o these_o point_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o right_a baptism_n not_o only_o to_o the_o right_a order_n but_o also_o to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n and_o church-member_n and_o so_o voluntary_a separation_n bare_o for_o the_o defect_n of_o it_o i_o have_v ever_o disclaim_v as_o consider_v the_o many_o error_n and_o ill_a consequence_n that_o will_v follow_v thereupon_o and_o though_o provocation_n still_o increase_v yet_o i_o have_v in_o my_o practice_n shun_v separation_n from_o my_o disent_a brethren_n and_o i_o presume_v though_o mr_n martial_n count_v right_a baptism_n a_o necessary_a duty_n yet_o he_o will_v be_v more_o advise_v then_o to_o make_v it_o essential_a either_o constitutiuè_n or_o consecutiuè_fw-la to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n or_o christian_a either_o visible_a or_o invisible_a for_o fear_v of_o give_v too_o much_o advantage_n to_o separatist_n and_o seeker_n i_o suppose_v in_o reference_n to_o the_o present_a point_n this_o be_v the_o truth_n that_o however_o every_o infant_n be_v either_o in_o the_o invisible_a kingdom_n of_o god_n or_o satan_n that_o be_v elect_v or_o reprobate_a yet_o no_o child_n till_o he_o make_v profession_n do_v visible_o belong_v either_o to_o the_o one_o or_o to_o the_o other_o i_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o infant_n be_v reckon_v to_o the_o church_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v from_o the_o peculiar_a church-state_n of_o the_o jew_n for_o then_o god_n take_v the_o whole_a family_n of_o abraham_n together_o in_o one_o day_n and_o after_o the_o whole_a nation_n of_o the_o
from_o abraham_n than_o it_o must_v be_v that_o we_o be_v elect_v in_o abraham_n abraham_n may_v say_v without_o i_o you_o can_v do_v nothing_o etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v if_o i_o make_v abraham_n a_o root_n as_o communicate_v faith_n by_o infusion_n or_o impetration_n mediatory_a as_o christ_n this_o will_v follow_v but_o i_o make_v abraham_n only_o a_o root_n as_o he_o be_v call_v the_o father_n of_o all_o they_o that_o believe_v rom._n 4._o 11._o not_o by_o beget_v faith_n in_o they_o but_o as_o a_o exemplary_a cause_n of_o believe_a as_o i_o gather_v from_o the_o expression_n verse_n 12._o that_o he_o be_v a_o â—ather_n to_o they_o that_o walk_v in_o the_o step_n of_o our_o father_n abraham_n which_o he_o have_v yet_o be_v uncircumcised_a mr_n blake_n ibid._n pag._n 31._o what_o make_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n root_n as_o in_o nature_n so_o holy_a root_n but_o the_o covenant_n and_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n make_v as_o well_o with_o david_n as_o with_o abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob._n i_o answer_v i_o make_v abraham_n only_o the_o root_n as_o he_o be_v only_o the_o father_n of_o beleeever_n exemplary_o and_o that_o which_o make_v he_o the_o father_n of_o believer_n be_v not_o the_o covenant_n but_o his_o exemplary_a faith_n as_o i_o gather_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n rom._n 4._o 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o 21._o and_o this_o be_v all_o the_o accession_n of_o strength_n i_o find_v he_o oppose_v to_o my_o so_o manifest_a weakness_n the_o rest_n be_v answer_v already_o mr_n martial_n pag._n 124._o say_v assembly_n i_o raise_v a_o dust_n about_o his_o argument_n because_o i_o tell_v he_o he_o do_v not_o distinct_o express_v what_o the_o promise_n be_v act_v 2._o 39_o and_o i_o require_v of_o he_o to_o form_v his_o proof_n into_o a_o argument_n as_o if_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o require_v he_o to_o make_v a_o syllogism_n in_o mood_n and_o figure_n in_o a_o sermon_n and_o yet_o he_o do_v make_v diverse_a in_o that_o sermon_n as_o pag._n 39_o 41._o but_o it_o seem_v neither_o then_o nor_o since_o be_v he_o willing_a to_o tell_v what_o promise_n that_o be_v act_v 2._o 39_o and_o then_o conclude_v syllogistical_o for_o than_o it_o will_v plain_o appear_v that_o that_o text_n serve_v not_o his_o purpose_n who_o in_o his_o second_o conclusion_n will_v not_o assert_v that_o the_o promise_n of_o save_a grace_n be_v make_v to_o the_o natural_a seed_n of_o believer_n and_o yet_o that_o text_n speak_v of_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n and_o save_a grace_n by_o he_o however_o i_o remember_v this_o be_v doctor_n prideaux_n his_o manner_n in_o oxford_n to_o require_v the_o disputant_n when_o he_o urge_v a_o text_n to_o read_v it_o and_o then_o to_o gather_v his_o argument_n from_o it_o and_o this_o i_o ever_o take_v to_o be_v a_o bring_n of_o light_n and_o not_o raise_v a_o dust_n about_o a_o argument_n and_o i_o shall_v still_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v a_o very_a irksome_a thing_n to_o i_o to_o answer_v a_o author_n that_o will_v not_o do_v so_o and_o till_o mr_n martial_n do_v it_o shall_v censure_v he_o as_o one_o that_o take_v not_o the_o way_n to_o clear_a truth_n but_o to_o darken_v it_o with_o multitude_n of_o woâ—ds_n among_o which_o a_o man_n shall_v have_v much_o ado_n to_o find_v the_o medium_n and_o the_o conclusion_n mr_n martial_n pag._n 247._o accuse_v i_o of_o slur_v plunder_v darken_n the_o argument_n of_o my_o adversary_n if_o he_o have_v tell_v i_o wherein_o he_o have_v do_v i_o a_o pleasure_n that_o i_o may_v know_v how_o to_o amend_v it_o but_o if_o he_o mean_v as_o his_o word_n pag_n 134._o to_o bring_v in_o so_o many_o imaginary_a sense_n thereby_o to_o darken_v a_o argument_n import_v in_o that_o i_o tell_v hâ—m_v his_o conclusion_n and_o speech_n may_v have_v many_o sense_n and_o desire_v he_o to_o set_v down_o what_o sense_n he_o mean_v it_o be_v a_o conceit_n scarce_o sober_a since_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o distinction_n and_o distinct_a expression_n be_v right_o call_v by_o logician_n lumen_fw-la rationis_fw-la and_o be_v the_o only_a way_n to_o enlighten_v not_o to_o darken_v speech_n and_o therefore_o all_o that_o be_v able_a in_o dispute_n make_v this_o their_o chief_a business_n to_o distinguish_v term_n or_o thing_n that_o differ_v and_o then_o set_v down_o their_o conclusion_n and_o frame_v their_o argument_n and_o answer_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n i_o will_v have_v mr_n martial_n do_v nor_o be_v my_o pretend_v obscurity_n in_o martial_n a_o kind_n of_o art_n to_o evadâ—_n what_o can_v plain_o be_v answer_v as_o mr_n geree_n conceive_v vind_z paedobap_n ch_n 1._o sect_n 3._o but_o a_o mean_n to_o find_v out_o the_o force_n of_o the_o argument_n that_o i_o may_v give_v it_o a_o plain_a answer_n whereas_o i_o have_v frame_v the_o five_o argument_n in_o my_o exercitation_n thus_o that_o which_o in_o succeed_a age_n in_o which_o it_o be_v in_o use_n be_v in_o force_n 1._o as_o a_o tradition_n not_o write_v 2._o out_o of_o imitation_n of_o jewish_a circumcision_n 3._o without_o universal_a practice_n 4_o together_o with_o the_o error_n of_o give_v infant_n the_o lord_n supper_n and_o many_o other_o humane_a invention_n under_o the_o name_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o such_o be_v infant-baptisme_n ergo_fw-la mr_n martial_n pag._n 251._o 252._o tell_v i_o this_o be_v a_o poor_a argument_n and_o yet_o such_o argument_n have_v be_v account_v after_o other_o argument_n from_o scripture_n of_o great_a moment_n against_o papist_n and_o prelate_n in_o reject_v of_o ceremony_n but_o how_o do_v mr_n mar._n answer_v this_o he_o deny_v the_o major_a which_o have_v be_v account_v good_a in_o other_o point_n and_o then_o because_o i_o make_v a_o several_a proof_n of_o the_o several_a part_n of_o the_o minor_a he_o repeat_v my_o word_n as_o if_o i_o have_v make_v a_o several_a argument_n from_o each_o branch_n and_o to_o make_v a_o show_n of_o their_o weakness_n put_v in_o another_o argument_n and_o conclusion_n than_o i_o as_o like_v with_o this_o inference_n ergo_fw-la we_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o observe_v it_o ergo_fw-la it_o be_v not_o a_o duty_n which_o be_v none_o of_o my_o conclusion_n and_o then_o say_v this_o kind_n of_o argue_v be_v almost_o as_o wild_a as_o that_o which_o the_o school_n call_v à _fw-la baculo_fw-la ad_fw-la angulum_fw-la and_o the_o boy_n in_o the_o school_n will_v stamp_v and_o hiss_v at_o such_o a_o inference_n i_o profess_v if_o i_o shall_v in_o school_n repeat_v my_o opponent_n argument_n as_o mr_n martial_n do_v i_o i_o shall_v allow_v the_o boy_n in_o the_o school_n to_o stamp_n and_o hiss_v at_o such_o a_o practice_n mr_n martial_n pag._n 124._o have_v these_o word_n you_o still_o go_v on_o in_o your_o wont_a equivocation_n of_o the_o word_n covenant_n of_o grace_n take_v it_o only_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o save_a grace_n not_o include_v the_o external_a way_n of_o administration_n with_o it_o i_o this_o i_o say_v above_o i_o do_v because_o i_o love_v to_o speak_v plain_o without_o equivocation_n but_o it_o seem_v to_o mr_n martial_n that_o which_o i_o count_v plain_a speech_n without_o equivocation_n be_v equivocate_a with_o he_o but_o what_o a_o ridiculous_a charge_n be_v this_o it_o be_v equivocation_n when_o a_o word_n be_v take_v in_o various_a sense_n be_v it_o equivocation_n in_o i_o to_o take_v the_o word_n covenant_n of_o grace_n only_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o save_a grace_n this_o be_v like_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v be_v charge_v with_o speak_v nonsense_n because_o he_o speak_v good_a reason_n in_o right_a language_n but_o i_o hope_v by_o this_o time_n the_o reader_n do_v understand_v who_o have_v use_v sophistry_n in_o dispute_v i_o or_o master_n martial_n what_o i_o say_v of_o the_o assembly_n pag._n 27._o of_o my_o examen_fw-la i_o do_v it_o not_o to_o cast_v filth_n in_o their_o face_n as_o master_n martial_n construe_v it_o but_o as_o a_o brotherly_a intimation_n of_o my_o fear_n and_o apprehension_n to_o make_v they_o cautelous_a who_o wise_a and_o faithful_a deportment_n in_o that_o great_a trust_n repose_v in_o they_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n to_o the_o whole_a christian_a church_n of_o who_o i_o profess_v i_o be_o still_o jealous_a out_o of_o love_n to_o they_o that_o especial_o in_o this_o matter_n they_o be_v not_o so_o sensible_a as_o they_o shall_v be_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n for_o which_o jealousy_n and_o for_o what_o i_o say_v about_o waste_v of_o time_n about_o inconsiderable_a thing_n comparative_o i_o suppose_v i_o be_o able_a to_o give_v a_o sufficient_a account_n manifest_v and_o this_o i_o speak_v mere_o to_o awaken_v they_o and_o to_o prevent_v that_o inconsideratenes_n through_o a_o
by_o he_o of_o purpose_n to_o avoid_v offence_n afore_o it_o be_v send_v to_o master_n martial_n 2._o that_o there_o be_v many_o reason_n why_o master_n martial_n shall_v have_v otherwise_o conceive_v of_o i_o in_o those_o expression_n as_o namely_o my_o declaration_n of_o my_o intention_n and_o petition_n thereupon_o in_o the_o prologue_n of_o the_o examen_fw-la part._n 1._o sect._n 1._o my_o respective_a speech_n of_o master_n martial_n in_o the_o same_o place_n pag._n 2._o and_o part_n 2._o sect_n 7._o pag._n 26._o and_o also_o in_o the_o epilogue_n part._n 4._o sect._n 8._o and_o if_o master_n martial_n have_v remember_v it_o when_o in_o our_o friendly_a conference_n he_o have_v tell_v i_o he_o do_v not_o expect_v so_o high_a expression_n from_o i_o which_o i_o conceive_v he_o mean_v of_o my_o downright_a censure_v of_o his_o argument_n not_o contemn_v his_o ability_n and_o i_o tell_v he_o i_o conceive_v it_o necessary_a to_o do_v so_o because_o he_o call_v his_o argument_n undeniable_a and_o have_v charge_v the_o anabaptist_n with_o a_o bloody_a sentence_n i_o desire_v a_o instance_n of_o such_o a_o expression_n as_o be_v offensive_a which_o be_v give_v by_o master_n martial_n i_o leave_v those_o word_n out_o in_o the_o print_a book_n and_o will_v have_v deal_v so_o with_o any_o other_o have_v i_o conceive_v it_o will_v have_v be_v so_o construe_v i_o may_v add_v further_o that_o when_o master_n geree_n come_v to_o i_o the_o day_n he_o publish_v his_o book_n a_o month_n afore_o master_n marshal_n defence_n come_v forth_o i_o tell_v he_o he_o do_v not_o conceive_v aright_o of_o i_o in_o that_o charge_n in_o his_o epistle_n dedicatory_a and_o give_v he_o my_o reason_n and_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o may_v have_v much_o wrong_n by_o it_o and_o desire_v that_o intimation_n may_v be_v give_v to_o master_n martial_n thereof_o which_o whether_o he_o do_v or_o no_o i_o know_v not_o but_o i_o suppose_v it_o may_v have_v occasion_v master_n martial_n if_o he_o can_v not_o alter_v his_o copy_n yet_o to_o have_v add_v something_o in_o the_o beginning_n or_o end_n of_o his_o book_n to_o have_v allay_v the_o asperity_n of_o that_o charge_n but_o what_o be_v those_o passage_n in_o which_o i_o pour_v out_o such_o abundance_n of_o scorn_n on_o master_n vine_n master_n thomas_n goodwin_n and_o master_n martial_n all_o the_o passage_n of_o master_n vine_n thus_o interpret_v be_v examen_fw-la part_v 2._o sect._n 6._o but_o how_o know_v master_n vine_n this_o i_o do_v not_o take_v master_n vine_n for_o a_o prophet_n and_o to_o infer_v this_o by_o reason_n the_o anabaptist_n urge_v matth._n 28._o 19_o against_o paedobaptism_n ergo_fw-la he_o will_v urge_v rom._n 12._o 19_o against_o magistracy_n be_v in_o my_o slender_a apprehension_n a_o baculo_fw-la ad_fw-la angulum_fw-la he_o have_v say_v the_o anabaptist_n which_o urge_v matth_n 28_o 19_o against_o padobaptisme_n when_o we_o shall_v â—e_v thrive_v to_o his_o full_a stature_n will_v undermine_v magistracy_n by_o rom._n 12._o 19_o which_o word_n seem_v to_o imply_v that_o a_o antipaedobaptist_a be_v but_o a_o young_a anti-magistrate_n and_o that_o the_o same_o vegetative_a faculty_n that_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n that_o do_v nourish_v the_o one_o will_v beget_v the_o other_o this_o inference_n be_v unreasonable_a yet_o speak_v to_o such_o a_o auditory_a by_o a_o man_n of_o such_o eminency_n at_o such_o a_o time_n and_o therefore_o tend_v to_o the_o suppression_n of_o truth_n and_o they_o that_o hold_v it_o i_o conceive_v it_o necessary_a to_o blunt_v the_o edge_n of_o it_o without_o any_o scorn_n of_o he_o who_o i_o respect_v as_o my_o love_a neighbour_n but_o for_o necessary_a defence_n of_o truth_n in_o a_o school_n expression_n use_v by_o many_o protestant_a writer_n and_o among_o other_o by_o master_n gataker_n in_o his_o rejoynder_n to_o can_v in_o defence_n of_o master_n bradshaâ—_n pag._n 113._o as_o for_o master_n thomas_n goodwin_n it_o be_v true_a part._n 3._o sect._n 7._o pag._n 68_o of_o my_o examen_fw-la i_o say_v thus_o i_o remember_v master_n thomas_n goodwin_n who_o have_v handle_v this_o matter_n of_o poedobaptisme_n by_o spin_v out_o similitude_n and_o conjecture_n fit_a indeed_o for_o the_o common_a people_n that_o be_v more_o take_v with_o resemblance_n than_o syllogism_n rather_o then_o with_o close_a argument_n in_o this_o passage_n say_v master_n martial_n pag._n 143._o i_o step_v out_o of_o the_o way_n to_o reproach_v master_n thomas_n goodwin_n that_o i_o vilify_v he_o as_o a_o man_n who_o by_o spin_v out_o similitude_n and_o conjecture_n delude_v his_o aâ—ditory_a with_o such_o thing_n rather_o than_o with_o satisfactory_a argument_n that_o why_o like_a ishmael_n my_o sword_n shall_v be_v against_o every_o man_n he_o can_v tell_v that_o he_o know_v he_o to_o be_v a_o learned_a godly_a divine_a and_o a_o eminent_a preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o worth_n not_o to_o be_v blast_v by_o my_o scornful_a speech_n that_o i_o have_v set_v down_o his_o notion_n otherwise_o then_o he_o preach_v to_o all_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o passage_n of_o i_o be_v not_o to_o vilify_v master_n goodwin_n but_o to_o pass_v a_o right_a censure_n on_o his_o sermon_n as_o i_o do_v in_o like_a manner_n on_o doctor_n featlies_n treatise_n pag._n 143._o without_o any_o vilify_n of_o his_o learning_n because_o i_o see_v the_o esteem_n of_o they_o hold_v man_n in_o error_n which_o be_v so_o frequent_a and_o just_a a_o thing_n that_o it_o be_v hold_v meet_a that_o a_o advertisement_n shall_v be_v add_v to_o the_o new_a annotation_n on_o the_o bible_n to_o prevent_v the_o danger_n of_o some_o passage_n in_o favour_n of_o the_o prelacy_n and_o liturgy_n hanc_fw-la veniam_fw-la petimusque_fw-la damusque_fw-la vicissim_fw-la and_o this_o fact_n of_o i_o be_v most_o injurious_o construe_v as_o if_o i_o do_v this_o like_o a_o ishmael_n that_o love_v to_o have_v my_o sword_n against_o every_o man_n as_o if_o i_o affect_v contention_n than_o which_o there_o can_v not_o be_v a_o thing_n more_o false_o charge_v on_o i_o though_o in_o pursuance_n of_o truth_n i_o hold_v myself_o bind_v to_o examine_v every_o man_n say_n which_o i_o tell_v master_n martial_n in_o the_o epilogue_n of_o my_o examen_fw-la to_o be_v for_o exact_a disquisition_n of_o it_o doctor_n twisse_n in_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la gratiae_fw-la against_o arminius_n often_o make_v digression_n and_o do_v vocare_fw-la ad_fw-la part_n molinaeus_n piscator_fw-la lubbertus_n alvarez_n etc._n etc._n he_o write_v against_o doctor_n jackson_n master_n cotton_n etc._n etc._n master_n gataker_n against_o doctor_n ames_n voetius_fw-la balmford_n lucius_n gomarus_n master_n walker_n etc._n etc._n do_v any_o man_n therefore_o make_v they_o like_o ishmael_n who_o sword_n be_v against_o every_o man_n master_n martial_n say_v that_o i_o vilify_v master_n thomas_n goodwin_n as_o a_o man_n who_o by_o spin_v out_o similitude_n and_o conjecture_n delude_v his_o auditor_n and_o then_o give_v he_o a_o encomium_n in_o which_o he_o will_v have_v it_o believe_v that_o i_o charge_v master_n thomas_n goodwin_n as_o a_o man_n wont_a to_o do_v thus_o whereas_o my_o word_n 〈◊〉_d only_o concern_v that_o matter_n of_o paedobaptism_n which_o do_v nothing_o prejudice_v he_o in_o his_o other_o work_n of_o which_o i_o have_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la pag._n 163._o give_v a_o encomium_n and_o for_o my_o censure_n it_o be_v ground_v partly_o on_o his_o own_o expression_n that_o in_o sundry_a point_n pertain_v to_o that_o matter_n we_o must_v be_v content_a with_o hint_n which_o be_v all_o one_o with_o conjecture_n and_o partly_o on_o the_o main_a principle_n of_o his_o dispute_n which_o be_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o promise_n to_o believer_n child_n be_v indefinite_a as_o act_n 2._o 39_o luke_n 19_o 8._o god_n have_v so_o cast_v the_o order_n of_o his_o election_n that_o multitude_n come_v out_o of_o the_o loin_n of_o his_o people_n that_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v by_o a_o judgement_n that_o we_o be_v to_o judge_v any_o infant-children_n of_o believer_n to_o be_v holy_a by_o parcel_n though_o not_o all_o in_o the_o lump_n that_o they_o be_v therefore_o to_o be_v account_v holy_a with_o a_o real_a save_a holiness_n 1_o cor._n 7_o 14._o matth._n 19_o 14._o and_o therefore_o to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n employ_v act._n 10._o 47._o concern_v which_o i_o say_v still_o that_o i_o expect_v argument_n but_o count_v myself_o delude_v with_o these_o conjecture_n as_o find_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n in_o any_o of_o these_o text_n which_o be_v the_o main_a he_o allege_v they_o neither_o prove_v that_o god_n have_v order_v his_o election_n so_o as_o for_o the_o most_o part_n to_o run_v through_o the_o loin_n of_o believer_n nor_o that_o we_o be_v to_o judge_v any_o of_o
not_o be_v in_o all_o man_n out_o of_o common_a infirmity_n to_o impute_v it_o to_o i_o as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v into_o any_o bog_n whereas_o i_o say_v have_v lead_v man_n out_o of_o the_o way_n in_o this_o matter_n into_o bâ—gs_n mean_v the_o opinion_n that_o baptism_n succeed_v into_o the_o place_n room_n and_o use_v of_o circumcision_n and_o therefore_o that_o the_o command_n to_o circumcise_v male_a infant_n at_o the_o eight_o day_n be_v a_o command_n to_o baptize_v any_o infant_n of_o beleiver_n at_o any_o time_n which_o error_n i_o call_v bog_n as_o be_v indeed_o anti-evangelicall_a error_n though_o all_o the_o divine_n on_o earth_n shall_v avouch_v they_o yet_o this_o i_o may_v say_v without_o arrogance_n of_o spirit_n in_o just_a and_o necessary_a avouch_v of_o the_o truth_n that_o reverend_a and_o learned_a divine_a mr_n gataker_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o mr_n george_n walker_n vindication_n pag._n 133._o say_v thus_o howsoever_o i_o suppose_v it_o no_o such_o hainour_n matter_n in_o something_o to_o depart_v from_o all_o writer_n know_v to_o 〈◊〉_d that_o have_v go_v before_o we_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o junius_n and_o tremellius_n in_o translate_n and_o expound_v some_o passage_n of_o scripture_n depart_v from_o all_o know_a interpreter_n than_o have_v go_v before_o they_o as_o in_o that_o place_n mal._n 2._o 16._o that_o in_o all_o even_o the_o best_a translation_n ever_o before_o run_v if_o thou_o hate_v she_o put_v she_o away_o pareus_n comment_v in_o 1_o cor._n 1._o 12._o miror_fw-la verò_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la omnes_fw-la ferèâ—_n interpretes_n fictionem_fw-la statuere_fw-la i_o may_v fill_v a_o volume_n with_o interpretation_n different_a from_o all_o forego_n yea_o what_o interpreter_n of_o note_n be_v there_o who_o do_v not_o differ_v from_o all_o other_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o count_v arrogance_n beside_o if_o this_o be_v not_o allow_v upon_o cogent_a reason_n how_o shall_v scripture_n and_o truth_n be_v clear_v how_o shall_v we_o 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from_o it_o if_o it_o do_v it_o will_v prove_v that_o faith_n succeed_v into_o the_o room_n place_n and_o use_v of_o circumcision_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n to_o this_o mr_n martial_n plain_o say_v but_o be_v not_o this_o the_o same_o sense_n with_o i_o but_o he_o after_o spend_v a_o great_a many_o word_n to_o no_o purpose_n as_o he_o be_v wont_a to_o do_v when_o he_o mistake_v my_o reason_n imagine_v i_o have_v reason_v thus_o baptism_n be_v name_v as_o one_o of_o the_o mean_n whereby_o we_o come_v to_o be_v complete_a in_o christ_n therefore_o iâ—_n dâ—th_v not_o succeed_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n whereas_o my_o reâ—son_n be_v tâ—us_o baptism_n be_v allege_v as_o one_o of_o the_o mean_n whereby_o we_o come_v to_o be_v complete_a in_o christ_n therefore_o there_o be_v another_o reason_n beside_o the_o succession_n of_o it_o into_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n why_o the_o aposâ—â—_n there_o meâ—tions_n it_o which_o mr_n marshal_v deny_v which_o reason_n be_v good_a 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where_o this_o doctrine_n be_v determine_v in_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d public_a doctrinal_n 2._o master_n gataker_n in_o his_o postcript_n to_o master_n won_v defence_n say_v thus_o that_o justification_n 〈◊〉_d remission_n of_o 〈◊〉_d for_o my_o part_n i_o deem_v erroâ—â—us_a and_o suppose_v that_o elsewhere_o i_o have_v evident_o show_v 〈◊〉_d so_o to_o be_v how_o be_v it_o calvin_n bâ—â—â—_n oleuâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d piscator_fw-la parens_fw-la â—â—sculus_fw-la bullinger_n fox_n and_o divers_a 〈◊〉_d of_o great_a 〈◊〉_d and_o name_n yea_o whole_a synod_n of_o we_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o to_o say_v and_o yet_o i_o never_o hear_v this_o charge_v for_o arrogancy_n on_o he_o and_o for_o the_o assertion_n i_o impugn_v that_o baptism_n come_v in_o the_o place_n room_n and_o use_v of_o circumcision_n and_o that_o this_o may_v be_v prove_v from_o colos_n 2._o 11_o 12._o though_o master_n martial_n hold_v his_o rod_n over_o i_o say_v i_o can_v hardly_o forbear_v to_o tell_v you_o it_o be_v a_o argument_n of_o a_o arrogant_a spirit_n i_o fear_v not_o yet_o to_o call_v they_o a_o iguis_fw-la 〈…〉_z of_o the_o way_n in_o this_o matter_n into_o beg_v to_o conclude_v my_o answer_n to_o this_o charge_n of_o scoff_v i_o do_v the_o less_o marvel_n that_o it_o be_v my_o lot_n to_o be_v thus_o charge_v when_o mr_n geree_n in_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la paedobâ—ptesâ—â—_n pag._n 60_o 67._o call_v one_o free_a speech_n very_o necessary_a of_o master_n ralph_n 〈◊〉_d a_o man_n so_o approve_v as_o by_o ordinance_n of_o parliament_n constitute_v master_n of_o a_o house_n in_o cambridge_n a_o quip_v 〈…〉_z of_o a_o satirical_a spirit_n against_o our_o reverend_a divine_n 〈…〉_z check_v abhor_a not_o countenance_v and_o i_o say_v further_o that_o if_o my_o memory_n do_v not_o deceive_v i_o there_o be_v passage_n in_o 〈…〉_z that_o carry_v as_o much_o show_n of_o irony_n as_o i_o do_v towards_o a_o man_n for_o age_n and_o learn_v not_o inferior_a to_o master_n martial_n and_o therefore_o i_o suppose_v my_o word_n which_o be_v usual_a among_o scholar_n may_v have_v have_v a_o more_o favourable_a construction_n i_o be_o bold_a to_o make_v use_n of_o master_n gataker_n word_n to_o lucius_n part._n ult_n sect._n 8._o pag_n 91._o stomachâ—_n nimium_fw-la qâ—m_fw-la indulget_fw-la vir_fw-la cl_n superciliumqâ—_n nim_v be_v alte_fw-la attollit_fw-la qi_fw-la tam_fw-la aegre_fw-la fert_fw-la placita_fw-la suâ—_n citra_fw-la uliam_fw-la vel_fw-la censoria_fw-la magistralitatis_fw-la vel_fw-la censurae_fw-la magistralis_fw-la volam_fw-la aut_fw-la vestigium_fw-la eye_n formnlis_fw-la qibus_fw-la apud_fw-la in_o scholis_fw-la disceptantes_fw-la nihil_fw-la est_fw-la usitatius_fw-la negari_fw-la idq_fw-la cum_fw-la negationis_fw-la rationes_fw-la adiectas_fw-la aut_fw-la videt_fw-la aut_fw-la videre_fw-la si_fw-la velit_fw-la qeat_fw-la nevertheless_o i_o profess_v free_o that_o have_v i_o dream_v such_o expression_n so_o usual_a in_o scholastic_a dispute_n will_v have_v be_v so_o take_v i_o will_v for_o 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quoniam_fw-la quod_fw-la aegri_fw-la sunt_fw-la alio_fw-la peccante_fw-la praegravantur_fw-la sic_fw-la cum_fw-la hi_o sani_fw-la sunt_fw-la alio_fw-la pro_fw-la eye_n confitente_fw-la salventur_fw-la nemo_fw-la ergo_fw-la vobis_fw-la susurret_fw-la doctrinas_fw-la alienas_fw-la hoc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la semper_fw-la habuit_fw-la semper_fw-la tenuit_fw-la hoc_fw-la a_o majorum_fw-la fide_fw-la percepit_fw-la hoc_fw-la usque_fw-la in_o finem_fw-la perseveranter_fw-la custodit_fw-la quoniam_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la opus_fw-la sanis_fw-la i_o dicus_fw-la sed_fw-la aegrot_n antibus_fw-la quid_fw-la necessarium_fw-la ergo_fw-la habuit_fw-la infans_fw-la christum_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la aegrotat_fw-la si_fw-mi sanus_fw-la est_fw-la quâ—re_fw-la per_fw-la eos_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la diligunt_fw-la medicum_fw-la quaerit_fw-la si_fw-mi quando_fw-la portantur_fw-la infant_n dicuntur_fw-la omnino_fw-la nullum_fw-la propaginis_fw-la habere_fw-la peccatum_fw-la &_o veniunt_fw-la ad_fw-la 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videt_fw-la ejus_fw-la temporis_fw-la esse_fw-la cum_fw-la vix_fw-la millesimus_fw-la cuique_fw-la baptizabatur_fw-la non_fw-la adultus_fw-la &_o in_o catechumenis_fw-la diligenter_fw-la exercitus_fw-la may_v serve_v to_o balance_v augustine_n testimony_n inconsistent_a with_o so_o many_o likelihood_n to_o the_o contrary_n which_o testimony_n of_o chamier_n master_n martial_n may_v have_v vouchsafe_v to_o have_v take_v notice_n of_o though_o it_o be_v but_o in_o the_o margin_n of_o my_o book_n nor_o have_v master_n martial_n or_o his_o friend_n yet_o it_o prove_v baptise_v of_o infant_n of_o believer_n by_o reason_n of_o federall_a holiness_n teach_v by_o the_o ancient_n master_v geree_n put_v a_o passage_n of_o tâ—rtullian_n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la cap._n 39_o exit_fw-la seminis_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la procreari_fw-la sanctos_fw-la in_o his_o frontispiece_n and_o master_n martial_n conceive_v i_o sick_a of_o it_o i_o answer_v i_o bless_v god_n no_o truth_n make_v i_o sick_a it_o will_v 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there_o be_v in_o moral_n certain_a it_o be_v that_o no_o argument_n be_v good_a from_o bare_a analogy_n in_o ceremonial_n or_o mere_a positives_n of_o the_o jew_n to_o prove_v thus_o it_o be_v in_o such_o a_o rite_n of_o the_o jew_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v so_o in_o such_o a_o rite_n of_o the_o christian_n there_o be_v no_o example_n of_o such_o argue_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o therefore_o i_o say_v right_o examen_fw-la pag._n 29._o to_o i_o it_o be_v a_o dangerous_a principle_n upon_o which_o they_o go_v that_o so_o argue_v to_o wit_n that_o in_o mere_a positive_a thing_n such_o as_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n be_v we_o may_v frame_v a_o addition_n to_o god_n worship_n from_o analogy_n or_o resemblance_n conceive_v by_o we_o between_o two_o ordinance_n whereof_o one_o be_v quite_o take_v away_o without_o any_o institution_n gather_v by_o precept_n or_o apostolical_a example_n master_n blake_n will_v know_v who_o they_o be_v that_o do_v so_o i_o answer_v mr_n martial_n in_o his_o first_o argument_n and_o five_o first_o conclusion_n and_o virtual_a command_n from_o circumcision_n master_n blake_n birth-priviledge_n pag._n 15._o and_o general_o all_o that_o prove_v infant-baptisme_n by_o infant-circumcision_a for_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n be_v mere_a positive_a thing_n baptise_v of_o infant_n be_v confess_v not_o to_o have_v express_a institution_n gather_v by_o express_a precept_n or_o example_n in_o the_o new_a test_n and_o that_o which_o be_v allege_v be_v either_o express_a or_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n at_o all_o and_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v gather_v by_o consequence_n from_o institution_n or_o example_n apostolical_a in_o the_o new_a testament_n without_o the_o help_n of_o the_o precept_n of_o circumcision_n there_o will_v be_v for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o concern_v my_o part_n a_o end_n of_o the_o controversy_n therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a they_o that_o argue_v from_o circumcision_n to_o baptism_n do_v frame_v a_o addition_n to_o 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baptism_n it_o be_v another_o case_n but_o be_v draw_v from_o circumcision_n to_o baptism_n it_o be_v a_o argument_n mere_o from_o analogy_n if_o they_o rest_v not_o on_o this_o let_v they_o lay_v aside_o this_o argument_n and_o stick_v to_o precept_n or_o apostolical_a example_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o show_v the_o danger_n of_o this_o way_n of_o argue_v i_o thus_o reason_v examen_fw-la pag_n 29._o for_o if_o we_o may_v do_v it_o in_o one_o thing_n why_o not_o in_o another_o where_o shall_v we_o stay_v they_o that_o read_v the_o popish_a expositor_n of_o their_o ritual_n do_v know_v that_o this_o principle_n have_v bring_v in_o surplice_n purification_n of_o woman_n etc._n etc._n that_o i_o mention_v not_o great_a matter_n i_o desire_v any_o learned_a man_n to_o set_v i_o down_o a_o rule_n from_o god_n word_n how_o far_o i_o may_v go_v in_o
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the_o strange_a spirit_n of_o lutheran_n ever_o since_o and_o the_o woeful_a tragedy_n of_o germany_n in_o this_o last_o age_n i_o do_v count_v the_o story_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n to_o contain_v in_o it_o many_o thing_n the_o true_a reason_n of_o which_o and_o the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o circumstance_n concern_v they_o will_v not_o appear_v till_o the_o day_n of_o the_o revelation_n of_o the_o righteous_a judgement_n of_o god_n 2._o i_o assign_v some_o possible_a mean_n of_o the_o turbulent_a carriage_n and_o error_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n beside_o their_o opinion_n of_o antipaedobaptisme_n to_o which_o master_n martial_n say_v he_o can_v hardly_o guess_v whether_o i_o intâ—â—ded_v to_o excuse_v the_o anabaptist_n in_o part_n or_o to_o blame_v the_o reform_a church_n for_o not_o hear_v they_o or_o to_o hint_n it_o as_o a_o warn_n to_o ourselves_o i_o answer_v i_o do_v it_o to_o show_v there_o may_v be_v other_o reason_n of_o those_o tumult_n and_o division_n that_o the_o anabaptist_n fall_v into_o than_o the_o opinion_n of_o antipaedobaptisme_n sundry_a of_o which_o if_o not_o all_o i_o think_v happen_v in_o their_o case_n master_n martial_n say_v he_o never_o read_v that_o they_o seek_v reformation_n in_o a_o regular_a way_n or_o be_v deny_v it_o before_o they_o fall_v into_o those_o fury_n how_o far_o they_o seek_v it_o i_o can_v tell_v it_o be_v plain_a that_o carolostadius_fw-la and_o pelargus_n and_o some_o say_v melancthon_n will_v have_v reform_v it_o in_o saxony_n have_v not_o luther_n pertinacy_n in_o that_o as_o well_o as_o consubstantiation_n and_o image_n withstand_v it_o and_o how_o baltazar_n huebmer_n seek_v it_o at_o zurich_n and_o be_v deny_v it_o be_v know_v i_o think_v the_o reform_a church_n have_v be_v to_o blame_v and_o so_o may_v be_v our_o present_a reformer_n that_o they_o have_v never_o yield_v to_o reform_v it_o in_o a_o regular_a way_n and_o if_o anabaptist_n have_v never_o seek_v it_o afore_o i_o it_o have_v be_v its_o likely_a because_o they_o see_v man_n spirit_n so_o bend_v against_o they_o that_o they_o think_v it_o in_o vain_a yea_o they_o have_v be_v rather_o force_v to_o conceal_v themselves_o it_o have_v be_v account_v criminal_a just_o deserve_v excommunication_n deprivation_n and_o sometime_o death_n so_o much_o as_o to_o question_v it_o and_o that_o the_o anabaptist_n have_v be_v so_o cast_v out_o and_o render_v odious_a as_o they_o have_v be_v have_v be_v the_o reason_n why_o they_o have_v be_v force_v to_o become_v a_o sect_n which_o i_o do_v not_o justify_v and_o by_o reason_n thereof_o factious_a spirit_n have_v join_v with_o they_o and_o pervert_v they_o with_o other_o error_n which_o perhaps_o have_v not_o happen_v have_v thâ—y_o be_v more_o tender_o and_o considerate_o handle_v at_o first_o 3._o i_o say_v but_o have_v not_o the_o like_a of_o not_o the_o same_o thing_n happen_v in_o other_o matter_n do_v not_o the_o like_a trouble_n happen_v in_o queen_n elizabeth_n day_n in_o seek_v to_o remove_v episcopacy_n and_o â—eremoniâ—s_n to_o this_o master_n martial_n say_v the_o rest_n of_o that_o section_n be_v to_o i_o extreme_o scandalous_a when_o i_o read_v your_o odious_a comparâ—â—â—â—s_n between_o the_o nonconformist_n in_o queen_n elizabeth_n day_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o germany_n it_o even_o grieve_v i_o to_o consider_v whether_o affection_n to_o your_o cause_n do_v carry_v you_o and_o master_n geree_n not_o only_a pag._n 70._o of_o his_o vinaâ—â—câ—â—_n paedobaptâ—smi_fw-la wonder_n at_o i_o that_o i_o shall_v compare_v the_o trouble_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o marvaâ—les_v such_o a_o uncharitable_a and_o unjust_a thought_n shall_v arise_v in_o i_o that_o division_n or_o other_o miscarriage_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n shall_v bring_v they_o low_o in_o england_n and_o beside_o all_o this_o master_n geree_n publish_v a_o single_a sheet_n in_o print_n and_o it_o come_v to_o my_o knowledge_n first_o by_o one_o that_o carry_v it_o about_o with_o other_o news_n book_n and_o this_o paper_n he_o style_v the_o character_n of_o a_o old_a purâ—tan_n 〈◊〉_d nonconformist_a and_o in_o the_o end_n say_v thus_o râ—ader_n sâ—ing_v a_o passage_n 〈◊〉_d master_n tomb_n his_o book_n against_o pâ—dob_n â—ptâ—sme_n where_o in_o he_o compare_v the_o nonconformist_n in_o england_n to_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o germany_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o miscarriage_n and_o ill_a success_n in_o they_o endeavour_n till_o of_o late_a year_n i_o be_v move_v for_o the_o vindication_n of_o those_o faithful_a and_o reverend_a witness_n of_o christ_n to_o publish_v this_o character_n in_o which_o mr_n geree_n plain_o insinuate_v that_o i_o accule_v those_o faithful_a witness_n of_o christ_n who_o he_o call_v elsewhere_o the_o grave_n godly_a learned_a and_o unblameable_a nonconformist_n in_o england_n i_o o_o answer_v this_o objection_n i_o say_v that_o i_o never_o
have_v need_v to_o be_v watch_v he_o talk_v not_o in_o a_o letter_n to_o i_o in_o private_a but_o in_o print_n of_o my_o high_a and_o scornful_a spirit_n but_o how_o just_o may_v appear_v by_o this_o apology_n he_o tell_v i_o i_o magisterial_o tread_v down_o under_o foot_n the_o argument_n and_o reason_n which_o other_o conceive_v strong_a but_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a for_o mr_n martial_n to_o show_v where_o i_o tread_v down_o any_o thing_n magisterial_o that_o be_v without_o cogent_a reason_n and_o such_o as_o be_v it_o not_o for_o his_o mistake_n of_o my_o reason_n he_o himself_o will_v be_v force_v to_o subscribe_v to_o they_o as_o for_o question_v so_o bold_o some_o doctrine_n which_o have_v never_o be_v question_v before_o baptism_n i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v it_o of_o that_o which_o i_o say_v pag._n 23._o of_o my_o examen_fw-la about_o rebaptisation_n which_o master_n martial_n say_v do_v clear_o discover_v my_o itch_n after_o new_a opinion_n pag._n 67._o of_o his_o defence_n and_o that_o which_o i_o say_v pag_n 85._o of_o my_o examen_fw-la concern_v the_o question_n whether_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v in_o no_o case_n eaâ—â—_n the_o lord_n supper_n this_o master_n martial_n pag._n 167._o of_o his_o defence_n number_n among_o my_o freak_n and_o outleapes_a and_o say_v be_v a_o spice_n of_o my_o itch_n after_o singular_a opinion_n but_o master_n martial_n may_v have_v observe_v that_o in_o the_o former_a i_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o what_o i_o say_v because_o it_o go_v so_o currâ—n_v that_o rebaptisation_n be_v not_o only_o a_o error_n but_o also_o a_o heresy_n plain_o show_v there_o be_v a_o necessity_n that_o cry_v out_o against_o the_o anabaptist_n as_o heretic_n to_o bring_v a_o demonstrative_a reason_n to_o prove_v it_o unlawful_a to_o baptize_v again_o he_o that_o have_v be_v right_o baptize_v for_o i_o presume_v hat_n as_o king_n jame_v censure_v cardinal_n peron_n for_o make_v a_o kind_n of_o problematicall_a martyr_n call_v they_o martyr_n 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