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swell_v into_o self-conceit_n and_o trouble_v the_o church_n with_o a_o mistake_n wrangle_a hurtful_a sort_n of_o zeal_n §_o 33._o and_o as_o i_o must_v needs_o believe_v as_o ill_o of_o some_o sort_n of_o zeal_n as_o st._n james_n have_v speak_v of_o it_o jam._n 3._o and_o experience_n have_v too_o long_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o take_v it_o for_o true_o amiable_a in_o man_n that_o they_o have_v a_o love_n and_o zeal_n for_o truth_n in_o general_n and_o a_o hatred_n to_o that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v against_o it_o and_o that_o their_o bitterness_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o i_o be_v upon_o a_o supposition_n that_o both_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n and_o god_n for_o this_o bear_v they_o witness_v that_o they_o have_v a_o zeal_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o knowledge_n and_o if_o they_o know_v truth_n indeed_o they_o will_v be_v zealous_a for_o it_o §_o 34._o i_o conclude_v with_o this_o notice_n to_o the_o contrary_n mind_v that_o the_o evidence_n for_o infant_n church-membership_a seem_v to_o i_o so_o clear_a both_o in_o nature_n and_o in_o scripture_n that_o i_o bid_v they_o despair_v of_o ever_o persuade_v i_o against_o it_o but_o if_o they_o will_v have_v any_o hope_n of_o change_v my_o judgement_n it_o must_v be_v by_o confess_v the_o visible_a church-membership_a of_o infant_n and_o prove_v that_o yet_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o baptism_n be_v appoint_v for_o initiate_a none_o but_o adult_n convert_v and_o not_o to_o be_v the_o common_a entrance_n into_o the_o church_n which_o yet_o i_o think_v they_o can_v never_o do_v while_o the_o plain_a law_n of_o christ_n mat._n 29.19_o and_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n do_v stand_v on_o record_n to_o confute_v such_o a_o opinion_n but_o here_o they_o have_v more_o room_n for_o a_o dispute_n §_o 35._o but_o though_o i_o expect_v to_o be_v censure_v for_o it_o i_o will_v say_v once_o because_o truth_n be_v truth_n that_o though_o rebaptise_v and_o reordain_v be_v just_o both_o condemn_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n and_o pronounce_v alike_o ridiculous_a by_o gregory_n mag._n lib._n 2._o ep._n indict_v 11._o c._n 46._o and_o many_o other_o yet_o be_v man_n rebaptise_v but_o for_o certainty_n to_o themselves_o or_o to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o quiet_v their_o conscience_n and_o on_o such_o term_n as_o in_o my_o christian_a directory_n i_o have_v show_v that_o a_o seem_a reordination_n may_v in_o some_o case_n be_v tolerate_v and_o will_v not_o wrong_v infant_n nor_o make_v it_o a_o occasion_n of_o division_n or_o alienation_n i_o know_v not_o by_o any_o scripture_n or_o reason_n that_o such_o rebaptise_v be_v so_o heinous_a a_o sin_n as_o shall_v warrant_v we_o to_o contemn_v our_o brethren_n no_o though_o it_o be_v as_o faulty_a as_o the_o oft_o commemorative_n baptise_v use_v by_o the_o abassine_n chap._n iii_o a_o general_n view_v of_o mr._n danvers_n book_n §_o 1._o mr._n danvers_n book_n be_v 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deliver_v down_o the_o form_n and_o word_n of_o baptism_n to_o we_o §_o 18._o afterwards_o pag._n 230._o ed._n 2._o mr._n danvers_n come_v to_o austin_n again_o and_o say_v that_o vincentius_n victor_n do_v oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant-baptism_n cite_v august_n li._n 3._o c._n 14._o de_fw-la anima_fw-la answ_n not_o a_o word_n of_o truth_n no_o such_o matter_n in_o that_o chapter_n or_o the_o whole_a book_n §_o 19_o next_o he_o say_v cresconius_n do_v also_o oppose_v austin_n in_o the_o point_n of_o infant_n baptism_n and_o do_v maintain_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a baptism_n but_o that_o which_o administer_v after_o faith_n answ_n utter_o false_a still_o there_o be_v no_o such_o controversy_n between_o they_o no_o wonder_n if_o he_o have_v miscit_v sentence_n that_o will_v thus_o go_v to_o falsify_v whole_a book_n as_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o they_o never_o meddle_v with_o augustine_n have_v write_v against_o petilian_n their_o best_a speaker_n have_v of_o a_o lawyer_n be_v make_v a_o bishop_n cresconius_n a_o donatist_n grammarian_n interpose_v for_o petilian_n and_o persuade_v austin_n to_o gentle_a thought_n of_o they_o but_o speak_v not_o a_o word_n against_o infant-baptism_n §_o 20._o nay_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 31._o austin_n tell_v we_o that_o they_o hold_v it_o as_o well_o as_o the_o catholic_n say_v he_o circumcisionem_fw-la certe_fw-la praeputii_fw-la in_o figura_fw-la futuri_fw-la baptismi_fw-la christi_fw-la ab_fw-la antiquis_fw-la observatum_fw-la esse_fw-la negare_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitror_fw-la non_fw-la audetis_fw-la that_o be_v i_o suppose_v you_o dare_v not_o deny_v that_o circumcision_n be_v observe_v by_o the_o ancient_n in_o figure_n of_o the_o christian_a baptism_n it_o be_v a_o grant_v thing_n §_o 21._o and_o it_o be_v cresconius_n word_n to_o austin_n una_fw-la religio_fw-la eadem_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nihil_fw-la in_o christiana_n observatione_fw-la diversum_fw-la &_o adhuc_fw-la adversus_fw-la inuicem_fw-la 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donatist_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o same_o opinion_n answ_n 1._o in_o what_o in_o all_o thing_n or_o some_o that_o be_v in_o the_o point_n of_o rebaptise_v person_n before_o baptize_v do_v you_o own_o that_o indeed_o but_o not_o as_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n 2._o so_o many_o prelatist_n have_v call_v the_o puritan_n donatist_n and_o abundance_n of_o protestant_n say_v that_o the_o papist_n succeed_v the_o donatist_n in_o appropriate_v the_o church_n to_o their_o party_n do_v not_o write_v next_o that_o they_o say_v the_o papist_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n lest_o you_o make_v yourselves_o antichristian_a also_o §_o 23._o reader_n the_o donatist_n be_v so_o great_a a_o party_n of_o man_n and_o have_v so_o great_a a_o number_n of_o bishop_n and_o so_o many_o write_v against_o they_o who_o work_n be_v yet_o extant_a and_o their_o cause_n have_v so_o many_o public_a examination_n that_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o thou_o if_o thou_o have_v the_o brain_n of_o a_o man_n to_o judge_v whether_o if_o they_o have_v be_v against_o infant-baptism_n in_o a_o time_n when_o austin_n say_v no_o christian_a deny_v it_o neither_o optatus_n nor_o austin_n nor_o any_o other_o of_o their_o most_o copious_a opposer_n will_v ever_o have_v charge_v they_o with_o such_o a_o opinion_n nor_o any_o examiner_n council_n or_o historian_n of_o their_o age_n even_o when_o the_o catalogue_n of_o heretic_n unhappy_o take_v in_o so_o many_o little_a matter_n as_o they_o do_v and_o make_v heretic_n some_o more_o and_o worse_o than_o they_o be_v and_o now_o if_o john_n becold_n will_v say_v they_o be_v of_o his_o side_n we_o must_v believe_v he_o §_o 24._o his_o deal_n with_o the_o novatian_o be_v the_o same_o or_o worse_o he_o fear_v not_o in_o the_o face_n of_o the_o sun_n to_o write_v that_o the_o novatian_o oppose_a infant-baptism_n and_o number_v they_o also_o with_o his_o party_n when_o it_o be_v a_o falsehood_n as_o much_o aggravate_v as_o these_o particular_n import_n 1._o they_o be_v a_o honest_a and_o numerous_a people_n and_o scatter_v almost_o all_o over_o the_o empire_n tolerate_v till_o innocent_n time_n in_o rome_n and_o long_o tolerate_v and_o much_o favour_v by_o many_o emperor_n and_o patriarch_n in_o constantinople_n because_o as_o socrates_n say_v they_o agree_v in_o doctrine_n with_o the_o catholic_n and_o can_v they_o have_v deny_v infant-baptism_n and_o not_o be_v accuse_v of_o it_o 2._o they_o have_v many_o bitter_a enemy_n that_o will_v soon_o have_v cast_v this_o in_o their_o tooth_n 3._o many_o council_n have_v to_o do_v with_o they_o where_o multitude_n have_v opportunity_n to_o accuse_v they_o 4._o they_o be_v a_o ancient_a sect_n arise_v even_o in_o cyprian_n time_n and_o long_o continue_v and_o in_o so_o many_o generation_n it_o will_v have_v be_v know_v 5._o they_o be_v put_v in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o many_o heresiographer_n that_o be_v keen_a enough_o and_o none_o of_o they_o that_o ever_o i_o find_v accuse_v they_o of_o any_o 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