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truth_n	christian_a	church_n	faith_n	4,160	5	5.1937	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81581	Queries upon queries: or Enquiries into Certain queries upon Dr. Pierce's sermon at Whitehall, Feb. 1	Dobson, John, 1633-1681.	1663 (1663)	Wing D1755A; ESTC R231409	9,187	16

QUERIES UPON QUERIES OR Enquiries into certain QUERIES UPON Dr. PIERCE'S Sermon at Whitehall Feb. 1. The third Edition Printed for R. Royston Bookseller to his most Sacred Majesty Queries upon Queries QUERIE I. WHether for the Papists with restlesse importunities to sollicite for an indulgence be to sit down peaceably and grant themselves erroneous Do they call that only a sitting down peaceably not to grow outragious and arming themselves with publick force to fight for their Religion or is it not moreover not to repine at their present happiness and to desist from craving any publick favour If you grant your selves erroneous is it fit you should be indulg'd in your errours Is it not favour enough to be Conniv'd at when there are such sanguinary laws in force against you which if his Majesty so pleas'd might be put into execution Or if he should gratifie you since you are so erroneous as to advance the Pope's Supremacy above that of Kings whether when you have gathered strength by being cherished under his wing will you not take the boldness to assert what you have now the confidence to affirm and proceed from humble desires of publick favour and indulgence to impudent demands of publick Countenance and settlement If so whether it be not seasonable to give the King a Caveat against such Dissenters who are wont to sit down peaceably no longer then they must needs QUERIE II. Though his Majesty had declared his Resolution against your Doctrines before yet was that Resolution so strong that 't was impossible to fortifie it or were there like to be no assaults made against it If not whence come your frequent desires of a Toleration If there were was there not need also of a Confirmation Do you not too much over-value the Courtiers when you say they neither know the Fathers and other Authors nor can judge of those quotations the Sermon does referre to If they don't know nor can't judge must you needs imply them so stupid as to be incapable of instruction If they have no reason to suspect them nor ability to view or disprove the quotations why may they not satisfie themselves without an Ocular search If they have they are submitted to their Examination as well as yours and 't is no question but you will both find them to be exact How could the Preacher know but that some of you would hear him He might assure himself you were usually present though not as Auditours yet as Spies if not to be converted by it yet to pick quarrels at the Sermon And presuming you there why might he not intend to convert you when he knew that what he delivered was able to perswade you if it did not meet with prejudices more invincible then your judgments to subdue Might not the Discourse be directed to check your insolence who upon the King's Declaration began to walk undisguis'd or to prevent the growth of Popery that though you compass'd Sea and land yet you might gain no more Proselytes by your industry or c. Querie III. Suppose we should say by what was from the Beginning we mean Primitive examples Can these be no rule of Reformation because we are not to doe as men have done but as men ought to doe Does not the same Reason destroy all Patterns and oblige us to abstain even from doing well because others have done so before us Christ to reform the Pharisees sends them to the Beginning for a Rule we to reform the Romanists send them to the Beginning too If Christ did as he ought why may not we imitate him and at the same time doe what has been done and what ought to be done If not Blasphemy If to doe as has been done and as ought to be done which you so carefully distinguish be inconsistent Is it not easy to inferre because the Papists doe now as they have done therefore they doe not as they ought to doe Suppose again that we understand Primitive Rules contain'd in Scripture As for those Articles which lye plain and open they need not the Light either of yours or ours or anothers Interpretation to discover them so that your Dilemma has no horns or but blunt ones As for the other the Querie is whether you or we more closely follow the confess'd Rules of interpretation If you have do you not lay that crime to your own charge which we endeavour but to prove you guilty of a partiality in your own cause If we have why do you still hugge your own errours and not rather close with our Truths while our Arms are open to embrace you Querie IV. When you imply that the Preacher in Contending only for the old Protestant way contended not for that which was from the Beginning what do you mean by the old Protestant way That good old way before it had the Name of Protestant or after If before it was and is the same way which was from the beginning and did not he in contending for it contend for that which was from the beginning If after he confesses 't was so call'd p. 36. because the Assertors of it protested against the cruel edict of Worms and that the Title was almost as novel as a very great part of the Roman Creed is why then do you say that he contended only for the New when 't was indeed for the old Protestant way When you say that the Eastern Churches claim a greater Antiquity then ours do you mean the Articles of their faith were more Ancient or they were more early in embracing them If the former why is it not prov'd If the latter what is it to the purpose Do we pretend to have receiv'd the Christian faith before all other Churches or rather do we not avow our selves to own the same Truths which if they receiv'd sooner yet both of us from the Beginning Querie V. It had been said Serm. p. 10. That in matters of Indifferencie which are brought into the Government every Church has the liberty to make her own Constitutions but we are to look upon nothing as an Article of Faith unless it comes from the Beginning c. Which passage did you reade or no If not why do you undertake to make Queries upon it If you did why do you talk of Surplices Organs Bishopricks Officials Pluralities c. and take so much pains to no purpose unless it be to amuse the ignorant and unobserving Reader Did the Sermon say all things must be reduced to what they were in the Beginning or only Articles of Faith And are Organs c. Articles of Faith While you personate the Fanatick don't you talk as impertinently as if you indeed were one But perhaps the whole Querie was rais'd on purpose to tell the world the Preacher had Pluralities If so why had you not withall told us how he came by them Not by purchase but desert not by seeking but acceptance when they were cast upon him That they are Dignities not Cures But