Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	catholic_n	church_n	faith_n	3,645	5	5.5678	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A63840	A defence of the confuter of Bellarmin's Second note of the church, antiquity, against the cavils of the adviser	Tullie, George, 1652?-1695.	1687 (1687)	Wing T3236; ESTC R7422	16,243	26

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