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A79817 The reclaimed papistĀ· Or The process of a papist knight reformd by a Protestant lady wth [sic] the assistance of a Presbyterian minister and his wife an Independent. And the whole conference, wherby that notable reformation was effected. J. V. C. (John Vincent Canes), d. 1672. 1655 (1655) Wing C435; Thomason E1650_1; ESTC R209116 94,350 241

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