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A17976 Iurisdiction regall, episcopall, papall Wherein is declared how the Pope hath intruded vpon the iurisdiction of temporall princes, and of the Church. The intrusion is discouered, and the peculiar and distinct iurisdiction to each properly belonging, recouered. Written by George Carleton. Carleton, George, 1559-1628. 1610 (1610) STC 4637; ESTC S107555 241,651 329

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