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esse_fw-la quia_fw-la regitur_fw-la spiritis_n sancto_fw-la sylvester_n in_o sum_n verbo_fw-la indult_n bell_n de_fw-fr indul_n l._n 2._o c._n 1._o last_o touch_v bellarmine_n &_o valentia_n i_o say_v they_o be_v neither_o of_o they_o cite_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n either_o with_o any_o great_a sincerity_n or_o to_o any_o great_a purpose_n for_o although_o bellarmin_n do_v insinuate_v that_o there_o be_v not_o many_o of_o the_o more_o ancient_a author_n which_o make_v mention_v of_o indulgence_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o affirm_v that_o there_o be_v want_n of_o antiquity_n &_o consent_n in_o the_o father_n in_o this_o matter_n as_o sir_n humphrey_n do_v false_o deduce_v out_o of_o his_o word_n but_o only_o insinuate_v that_o the_o defect_n of_o number_n of_o the_o more_o ancient_a father_n which_o mention_v indulgence_n be_v sufficient_o supply_v by_o the_o use_n &_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n without_o writing_n by_o reason_n say_v he_o that_o many_o thing_n be_v retain_v in_o the_o church_n by_o that_o mean_v only_o and_o as_o for_o valentia_n who_o as_o he_o be_v cite_v by_o the_o knight_n relate_v out_o of_o s._n thomas_n the_o opinion_n of_o some_o who_o call_v indulgence_n a_o pious_a fraud_n to_o allure_v man_n to_o the_o performance_n of_o those_o pious_a work_n which_o be_v require_v in_o the_o form_n of_o the_o indulgence_n grant_v it_o be_v true_a there_o be_v such_o a_o tenet_n in_o those_o day_n but_o as_o it_o be_v true_a that_o s._n thomas_n relate_v it_o so_o be_v it_o also_o true_a that_o he_o condennes_n the_o same_o for_o very_o dangerous_a that_o which_o our_o adversary_n if_o he_o have_v deal_v honest_o ought_v not_o to_o have_v omit_v and_o yet_o not_o obstand_v he_o can_v not_o but_o see_v that_o position_n censure_v by_o s._n thomas_n in_o the_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o valentia_n as_o also_o he_o censure_v another_o little_a better_o to_o wit_n that_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o indulgence_n itself_o not_o punishment_n neither_o in_o the_o 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the_o pious_a work_n in_o join_v he_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o the_o same_o all_o which_o because_o it_o sound_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o pretensive_a reform_a church_n it_o strike_v sir_n humphrey_n deaf_a one_o that_o ear_n &_o so_o he_o leave_v it_o out_o i_o omit_v diverse_a particular_n which_o our_o adversary_n utter_v here_o &_o there_o in_o the_o progress_n of_o his_o paragraffe_v because_o they_o either_o consist_v of_o some_o inauthenticall_a relation_n about_o the_o use_n or_o rather_o about_o the_o abuse_n of_o some_o particular_a grant_n of_o indulgence_n as_o that_o out_o of_o the_o office_n of_o saram_n &_o out_o of_o guitcherdin_n or_o else_o they_o consist_v in_o his_o own_o plain_a calunnious_a untruth_n as_o that_o indulgence_n be_v grant_v only_o to_o draw_v money_n from_o the_o grainer_n &_o that_o the_o romanist_n pretend_v universality_n of_o father_n for_o every_o point_n of_o faith_n &_o that_o the_o article_n of_o indulgence_n want_v authority_n of_o scripture_n of_o all_o this_o i_o say_v i_o need_v to_o make_v no_o further_o discussion_n in_o regard_n the_o apparent_a falsity_n of_o it_o do_v sufficient_o confute_v itself_o &_o show_n that_o it_o proceed_v rather_o from_o a_o man_n malicious_o affect_v &_o ignorant_a of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n &_o more_o dispose_v to_o caville_v then_o careful_a to_o attain_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o doctrine_n for_o suppose_v the_o abuse_n be_v never_o so_o true_a which_o as_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n so_o in_o this_o i_o confess_v there_o have_v be_v some_o especial_o in_o the_o questor_n or_o inferior_a administrator_n of_o indulgence_n &_o may_v be_v more_o nevertheless_o these_o abuse_n of_o particular_a man_n do_v not_o impeach_v the_o power_n &_o authority_n &_o lawful_a use_n of_o the_o same_o which_o only_o be_v that_o which_o my_o adversary_n &_o i_o have_v now_o in_o question_n and_o so_o now_o for_o conclusion_n of_o this_o matter_n we_o may_v hence_o infer_v how_o impious_o the_o sectary_n proceed_v in_o the_o denial_n &_o impugnation_n of_o the_o indulgence_n use_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o although_o they_o have_v no_o other_o utility_n or_o profit_n in_o they_o then_o to_o induce_v people_n to_o the_o exercise_n of_o such_o pious_a work_n as_o be_v require_v in_o the_o tenor_n of_o they_o that_o be_v fast_v prayer_n &_o alm_n so_o heigh_o commend_v in_o the_o scripture_n &_o receive_v of_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o in_o common_a reason_n ought_v they_o not_o to_o be_v reject_v but_o rather_o maintain_v &_o seek_v for_o with_o great_a zeal_n &_o devotion_n and_o so_o now_o let_v this_o suffice_v for_o the_o entire_a discussion_n of_o this_o paragraffe_v in_o which_o i_o have_v find_v nothing_o to_o the_o excuse_n the_o author_n from_o the_o same_o censure_n i_o have_v lay_v upon_o he_o in_o the_o precedent_a matter_n the_o ix_o period_n we_o be_v now_o come_v to_o the_o 10._o section_n of_o the_o book_n in_o which_o sir_n humphrey_n produce_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o romanist_n touch_v the_o infallible_a certainty_n of_o the_o protestant_a faith_n &_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o romish_a this_o be_v his_o design_n but_o i_o be_o very_o persuade_v he_o will_v fail_v of_o his_o purpose_n i_o will_v examen_fw-la particular_n that_o the_o truth_n may_v appear_v but_o before_o this_o i_o must_v advertise_v the_o reader_n that_o in_o this_o section_n there_o be_v little_a substance_n to_o be_v find_v &_o it_o consist_v chief_o in_o a_o large_a recapitulation_n of_o the_o suppose_a confession_n of_o the_o romanist_n as_o that_o they_o have_v confess_v that_o justification_n be_v by_o faith_n only_o that_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o bread_n in_o to_o christ_n body_n be_v not_o general_o receive_v by_o the_o father_n that_o the_o certain_a &_o definite_a number_n of_o sacrament_n be_v unknown_a to_o scripture_n &_o father_n &_o that_o the_o indulgence_n now_o use_v have_v no_o authority_n from_o scripture_n or_o father_n &_o the_o like_o all_o which_o particular_n we_o have_v already_o disprove_v in_o their_o several_a place_n in_o substance_n a_o great_a part_n of_o it_o be_v but_o a_o idle_a repetition_n of_o those_o falsity_n which_o the_o kingh_n have_v utter_v before_o with_o some_o new_a addition_n to_o make_v the_o number_n of_o his_o lie_n more_o ample_a &_o complete_a &_o this_o he_o perform_v with_o great_a abundance_n of_o word_n of_o amplification_n &_o think_v to_o make_v all_o sure_a call_v to_o witness_v both_o man_n &_o angel_n and_o thus_o for_o space_n of_o a_o leaf_n or_o two_o he_o bring_v nothing_o but_o verbal_a discourse_n which_o with_o the_o very_a breath_n of_o any_o judicious_a reader_n present_o vanish_v away_o &_o so_o they_o need_v no_o other_o confutation_n afterwards_o he_o come_v to_o some_o particular_n which_o i_o have_v not_o yet_o touch_v &_o of_o these_o i_o will_v make_v a_o brief_a examen_fw-la and_o to_o omit_v those_o point_n which_o i_o have_v before_o discuss_v in_o his_o page_n 242._o he_o indevore_v to_o prove_v out_o of_o bellarmin_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v overthrow_v in_o one_o tenet_fw-la all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n &_o he_o perform_v it_o very_o solid_o because_o for_o sooth_n bellarmin_n affirm_v that_o none_o can_v be_v certain_a by_o certainty_n of_o faith_n that_o he_o receive_v a_o sacrament_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n without_o which_o the_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v make_v and_o the_o argument_n the_o knight_n frame_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o cardinal_n be_v this_o it_o be_v a_o positive_a ground_n of_o the_o roman_a religion_n that_o a_o sacrament_n can_v not_o be_v make_v without_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n can_v not_o be_v know_v by_o faith_n
therefore_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v overthrow_v in_o one_o tenet_fw-la all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n i_o ansere_fw-la first_o that_o although_o this_o be_v the_o form_n which_o sir_n hunfreys_n argument_n must_v be_v reduce_v unto_o if_o any_o it_o can_v have_v nevertheless_o if_o we_o shall_v examen_fw-la it_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n there_o will_v scarce_o be_v find_v either_o form_n or_o figure_n in_o it_o yet_o lest_o the_o knight_n shall_v hold_v himself_o too_o rigorous_o deal_v with_o as_o not_o make_v profession_n of_o that_o art_n i_o be_o content_a to_o let_v that_o pass_v and_o answer_v second_o that_o i_o grant_v the_o mayor_n in_o this_o sense_n viz._n that_o whensoever_o the_o priest_n do_v administer_v a_o sacrament_n it_o be_v require_v that_o he_o intend_v at_o the_o least_o in_o general_a to_o do_v that_o which_o the_o true_a church_n use_v to_o do_v in_o that_o action_n i_o mean_v either_o formal_o or_o virtual_o &_o this_o be_v define_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n as_o a_o certain_a truth_n but_o in_o the_o minor_a there_o lie_v secret_o a_o certain_a false_a supposition_n which_o be_v this_o that_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v necessary_o require_v that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o particular_a case_n be_v know_v by_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o true_a nor_o define_v by_o the_o council_n because_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v sufficient_a that_o faith_n by_o which_o a_o christian_a believe_v that_o every_o one_o of_o those_o visible_a sign_n which_o the_o church_n propose_v to_o the_o people_n to_o be_v believe_v &_o receive_v as_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a law_n be_v institute_v by_o christ_n to_o confer_v grace_n to_o the_o receiver_n &_o that_o to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o be_v require_v a_o sincere_a intention_n to_o administer_v or_o perform_v that_o particular_a action_n as_o be_v be_v institute_v or_o as_o the_o tridentine_a decreeth_n intention_n saltem_fw-la faciendi_fw-la quod_fw-la facit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o be_v at_o the_o least_o with_o intention_n to_o hoe_v that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v &_o that_o serious_o &_o not_o in_o mockrie_n but_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o either_o he_o that_o perform_v that_o ceremony_n or_o he_o that_o receive_v the_o same_o have_v certain_a knowledge_n of_o faith_n that_o this_o or_o that_o individual_a sacrament_n have_v be_v institute_v with_o the_o foresaid_a intention_n but_o to_o this_o a_o moral_a certainty_n do_v suffice_v both_o in_o the_o minister_n &_o in_o the_o receiver_n &_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o to_o know_v whether_o one_o have_v receive_v or_o do_v true_o receive_v a_o sacrament_n or_o not_o fall_v not_o upon_o the_o essence_n or_o make_v or_o mar_n of_o a_o sacrament_n as_o a_o thing_n necessary_o precedent_a unto_o the_o constitution_n of_o it_o but_o it_o be_v only_o a_o thing_n consequent_a or_o follow_v the_o same_o as_o serve_v only_o to_o rectify_v &_o quiet_a the_o conscience_n of_o those_o that_o either_o administer_v it_o or_o receive_v it_o to_o the_o which_o as_o be_v but_o a_o moral_a matter_n moral_a certainty_n only_o be_v require_v and_o sure_o if_o all_o true_a faith_n shall_v therefore_o be_v overthrow_v as_o sir_n humphrey_n infer_v because_o of_o want_n of_o certainty_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o receiver_n that_o they_o receive_v true_a sacrament_n every_o time_n they_o receive_v they_o than_o shall_v it_o follow_v by_o a_o argument_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o reformer_n be_v also_o overthrow_v for_o that_o they_o themselves_o neither_o have_v nor_o can_v have_v any_o such_o certainty_n of_o faith_n or_o if_o they_o say_v there_o be_v no_o faith_n of_o any_o such_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n in_o their_o religion_n so_o do_v we_o say_v the_o same_o of_o we_o for_o although_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v necessary_a in_o general_a to_o the_o constitution_n of_o a_o sacrament_n yet_o that_o intention_n be_v not_o necessary_o know_v by_o faith_n in_o every_o particular_a case_n &_o in_o this_o consist_v the_o equivocation_n of_o the_o whole_a argument_n &_o if_o the_o knight_n have_v distinguish_v between_o the_o intention_n &_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o intention_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v perceive_v that_o his_o discourse_n be_v found_v upon_o a_o false_a foundation_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o the_o conclusion_n which_o although_o the_o premise_n be_v never_o so_o true_a yet_o have_v they_o not_o be_v able_a to_o infer_v such_o à _fw-fr vast_a consequence_n as_o be_v the_o overthrow_n of_o all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n precise_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o suppose_a want_n of_o faith_n of_o intention_n about_o the_o sacrament_n and_o now_o by_o this_o general_a ansere_fw-la may_v be_v solue_v what_o soever_o sir_n humphrey_n say_v afterwards_o of_o the_o intention_n require_v to_o the_o sacrament_n in_o particular_a to_o which_o i_o alson_n add_v that_o if_o certainty_n of_o faith_n be_v require_v in_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o as_o often_o as_o they_o receive_v they_o the_o receive_v true_a sacrament_n hic_fw-mi &_o nunc_fw-la &_o that_o as_o often_o as_o they_o want_v that_o faith_n they_o overthrow_v all_o certainty_n of_o true_a faith_n than_o the_o reformer_n themselves_o be_v in_o a_o more_o pitiful_a case_n then_o the_o romanist_n in_o regard_n that_o it_o be_v unpossible_a for_o they_o to_o know_v more_o than_o either_o by_o their_o own_o seight_n or_o by_o relation_n of_o other_o that_o the_o true_a matter_n &_o form_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v true_o apply_v unto_o they_o &_o yet_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o upon_o neither_o of_o these_o two_o knowledge_n any_o supernatural_a faith_n can_v be_v found_v but_o only_o either_o a_o kind_n of_o natural_a cognition_n or_o knowledge_n at_o the_o most_o take_v from_o the_o sense_n or_o a_o certain_a moral_a certitude_n proceed_v from_o the_o relation_n of_o their_o parent_n or_o other_o all_o which_o be_v far_o inferior_a to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o faith_n as_o no_o man_n can_v deny_v that_o which_o may_v by_o a_o special_a reason_n be_v yet_o more_o plain_o urge_v against_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o regard_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o certainty_n of_o faith_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o their_o sacrament_n in_o particular_a that_o they_o can_v possible_o have_v as_o much_o as_o a_o moral_a certainty_n of_o the_o same_o nay_o nor_o moral_a probability_n i_o mean_v such_o a_o one_o as_o may_v justly_o move_v a_o prudent_a man_n to_o give_v credit_n by_o reason_n they_o have_v no_o certainty_n nor_o yet_o probability_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o vocation_n &_o ordination_n of_o their_o minister_n without_o certainty_n of_o which_o two_o condition_n it_o be_v well_o know_v on_o both_o side_n that_o no_o certain_a knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o individual_a sacrament_n can_v possible_o he_o have_v and_o so_o we_o see_v that_o whereas_o sir_n humphrey_n think_v he_o have_v frame_v a_o sting_v argument_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o bellarmin_n he_o only_o heap_v coal_n upon_o his_o own_o head_n and_o from_o hence_o also_o we_o may_v gather_v a_o easy_a solution_n to_o that_o which_o he_o add_v against_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o priest_n intention_n in_o some_o of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o he_o specifi_v as_o baptism_n order_n &_o matrimony_n touch_v which_o matter_n i_o desire_v the_o judicious_a reader_n consider_v whether_o it_o be_v not_o much_o more_o conformable_a to_o reason_n to_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o honour_n of_o christ_n who_o institute_v they_o &_o to_o the_o comfort_n &_o security_n of_o the_o receiver_n that_o a_o sincere_a intention_n of_o the_o priest_n god_n substitute_n be_v require_v to_o 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the_o knight_n calumnious_a proceed_n against_o he_o 99_o vos_fw-fr enim_fw-la sicut_fw-la a_o luthero_n didicistis_fw-la scripturas_fw-la sanctas_fw-la faciles_fw-la ad_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la &_o interpretandum_fw-la esse_fw-la putatis_fw-la &_o sic_fw-la eas_fw-la hactenus_fw-la vestro_fw-la sensis_fw-la intellexistis_fw-la &_o interpretati_fw-la estis_fw-la at_o si_fw-la hanc_fw-la solam_fw-la regulam_fw-la fidei_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la reliquisset_fw-la quid_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la gladium_fw-la delphicum_fw-la haberemê°_n etc._n etc._n quomodo_fw-la interpretari_fw-la scripturas_fw-la ad_fw-la libidinem_fw-la proprij_fw-la sensus_fw-la sit_fw-la ut_fw-la habere_fw-la delphicum_fw-la gladium_fw-la contr_n sad._n p._n 99_o lessius_fw-la be_v ill_a cite_v for_o in_o his_o 11._o reason_n he_o have_v none_o of_o those_o word_n quote_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n yet_o in_o his_o table_n he_o have_v those_o scriptura_fw-la quâ_fw-la ratione_fw-la nasus_fw-la cereus_fw-la regula_fw-la lesbia_fw-la etc._n etc._n nuncupetur_fw-la cite_v for_o this_o his_o own_o page_n 130._o of_o his_o consult_v where_o yet_o he_o have_v not_o those_o formal_a word_n which_o sir_n humphrey_n cite_v but_o only_o some_o other_o to_o that_o sense_n yet_o the_o truth_n be_v he_o do_v not_o apply_v either_o the_o word_n or_o the_o sense_n to_o the_o romanist_n but_o to_o the_o novelist_n say_v of_o they_o and_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n by_o their_o private_a spirit_n scripturam_fw-la autem_fw-la cuique_fw-la pro_fw-la svo_fw-la captu_fw-la &_o iudicio_fw-la intelligit_fw-la unde_fw-la cum_fw-la se_fw-la putant_fw-la scripturam_fw-la habere_fw-la regulam_fw-la credendi_fw-la loco_fw-la scripturae_fw-la habent_fw-la imaginationem_fw-la propriam_fw-la etc._n etc._n so_o that_o here_o we_o find_v no_o blasphemy_n in_o lessius_fw-la but_o imposture_n in_o sir_n humphrey_n it_o be_v true_a lessius_fw-la in_o his_o disputation_n of_o antichrist_n have_v those_o formal_a word_n cite_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n in_o his_o page_n of_o the_o same_o number_n where_o he_o say_v the_o scripture_n be_v call_v by_o catholic_n a_o nose_n of_o wax_n &_o a_o lesbious_a rule_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o present_o explicate_v in_o what_o sense_n to_o wit_n when_o it_o be_v take_v for_o the_o bare_a word_n or_o letter_n only_o seclude_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n &_o the_o interpretation_n of_o father_n as_o say_v he_o it_o be_v take_v by_o heretic_n so_o that_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o lessius_fw-la do_v not_o say_v that_o catholic_n call_v the_o true_a scripture_n together_o with_o the_o true_a sense_n a_o nose_n of_o wax_n but_o only_o the_o naked_a text_n &_o as_o it_o be_v abuse_v by_o corrupter_n 131._o lessius_fw-la demonstr_n 15._o p._n 131._o an_fw-mi non_fw-la regula_fw-la illis_fw-la lesbian_n quam_fw-la omnibus_fw-la suis_fw-la imaginationibus_fw-la quantumuis_fw-la absurdis_fw-la accommodant_fw-la &_o seruire_fw-la faciunt_fw-la qui_fw-la per_fw-la antichristum_n designari_fw-la volunt_fw-la non_fw-la unum_fw-la hominem_fw-la sed_fw-la plurimorum_fw-la seriem_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o present_o apud_fw-la catholicos_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la regula_fw-la lesbian_n quia_fw-la est_fw-la animata_fw-la vero_fw-la nimirum_fw-la sensu_fw-la qui_fw-la contrarijs_fw-la placitis_fw-la aptari_fw-la nequit_fw-la among_o catholic_n say_v lessius_fw-la the_o scripture_n be_v not_o a_o lesbie_n rule_n because_o it_o be_v animate_v with_o true_a sense_n which_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o contrary_a opinion_n by_o which_o word_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o author_n be_v mighty_o wrong_v be_v he_o have_v the_o very_a negative_a proposition_n to_o that_o be_v impose_v upon_o he_o in_o the_o citation_n of_o pighius_fw-la sir_n humphrey_n ought_v to_o have_v continue_v his_o rehearsal_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o word_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o period_n of_o the_o author_n whole_a passage_n &_o then_o it_o will_v 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or_o at_o the_o least_o to_o vilify_v they_o &_o speak_v contemptuouslie_o of_o they_o as_o diverse_a of_o their_o work_n do_v testify_v but_o for_o all_o this_o sir_n humphrey_n be_v still_o harp_v upon_o that_o
concedimus_fw-la quod_fw-la oramus_fw-la sanctos_fw-la proprie_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la orant_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la proprie_fw-la ut_fw-la cum_fw-la dicimus_fw-la sancte_fw-la petre_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o grant_v say_v antisiodore_n that_o we_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n proper_o &_o that_o they_o pray_v for_o we_o proper_o as_o when_o we_o say_v saint_n peter_n pray_v for_o us._n and_o now_o lo_o here_o how_o faithlesse_o the_o knight_n have_v proceed_v in_o his_o allegation_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o these_o twoe_o author_n who_o both_o so_o plain_o conspire_v against_o he_o &_o let_v the_o reader_n alsoe_o consider_v how_o little_a reason_n our_o adversary_n have_v to_o conclude_v that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n have_v neither_o antiquity_n universality_n nor_o succession_n suppose_v that_o he_o can_v conclude_v no_o other_o safety_n out_o of_o these_o and_o the_o like_a premise_n then_o such_o as_o proceed_v from_o his_o own_o forgery_n &_o 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which_o do_v quite_o destroy_v it_o if_o he_o have_v his_o dye_n about_o he_o to_o perceive_v it_o to_o the_o word_n cite_v by_o sir_n humphrey_n page_n 263._o concern_v image_n biel_n subjoin_v these_o nec_fw-la tamen_fw-la propter_fw-la haec_fw-la imagine_v proijciendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la aut_fw-la de_fw-la oratorijs_fw-la eliminandae_fw-la occasione_n idololatriae_fw-la devitandae_fw-la aut_fw-la peregrinationes_fw-la ad_fw-la certas_fw-la imagine_v vel_fw-la certa_fw-la loca_fw-la praesertim_fw-la consecrata_fw-la vel_fw-la etiam_fw-la consecranda_fw-la penitus_fw-la reprehendenda_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la usque_fw-la quaque_fw-la negandun_v est_fw-la quin_fw-la in_o certis_fw-la locis_fw-la singulariter_fw-la reluceant_fw-la beneficia_fw-la &_o maiora_fw-la crebrius_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o alijs_fw-la vel_fw-la propter_fw-la imagine_v sanctorum_fw-la reliquias_fw-la ibi_fw-la conditas_fw-la vel_fw-la occulta_fw-la ministeria_fw-la alius_fw-la mysteria_fw-la futuris_fw-la 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