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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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to_o be_v baptize_v answer_n touch_v this_o first_o position_n that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v i_o read_v that_o auxentius_n one_o of_o the_o arrian_n sect_n with_o his_o adherent_n be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o that_o deny_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n &_o next_o after_o he_o pelagius_n the_o heretic_n against_o who_o augustine_n &_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n have_v oppose_v &_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n &_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o by_o god_n grace_n we_o shall_v together_o with_o they_o also_o f●rther_v manifest_a &_o prove_v by_o sound_a reason_n out_o of_o the_o word_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o baptise_v infant_n which_o first_o i_o will_v undertake_v &_o then_o answer_v the_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n gen._n 17.20_o god_n make_v his_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n &_o to_o his_o seed_n from_o whence_o i_o reason_n thus_o 2._o that_o covenant_n which_o god_n make_v with_o abraham_n he_o command_v to_o be_v seal_v to_o he_o &_o 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the_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n gen._n 17.4_o also_o gal._n 3.13.4_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o redemne_v we_o from_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n that_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n may_v come_v on_o the_o gentile_n through_o je_n chr._n that_o we_o may_v receive_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o spirit_n see_v vers_fw-la 8.9_o now_o than_o if_o we_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n for_o otherwise_o abraham_n covenant_n shall_v not_o be_v a_o everlasting_a covenant_n gen._n 17.7_o see_v his_o posterity_n after_o the_o flesh_n be_v cut_v of_o for_o a_o time_n rom._n 11_o 15.17.20_o it_o must_v follow_v that_o the_o same_o must_v be_v seal_v to_o we_o &_o to_o our_o infant_n else_o be_v it_o not_o the_o same_o &_o that_o by_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n for_o the_o abolish_n of_o circumcision_n &_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o baptism_n under_o the_o gospel_n do_v not_o abrogate_v or_o disanulle_v the_o commandment_n of_o seal_v the_o covenant_n to_o the_o believe_a 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nazianzen_n ambrose_n &_o many_o other_o be_v almost_o as_o gross_a heretic_n if_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n that_o hold_v a_o heresy_n as_o auxentius_n &_o pelagius_n &_o you_o yourselves_o account_v they_o all_o antichristian_o &_o therefore_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o pedobaptistry_n in_o ancient_a antichristian_a church_n be_v no_o more_o to_o be_v respect_v then_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o prelacy_n &_o read_v prayer_n in_o the_o fame_n but_o these_o be_v but_o flourish_v let_v we_o hear_v your_o argument_n from_o the_o scripture_n prove_v 1._o that_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v your_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o gen._n 17.10_o &_o be_v frame_v thus_o that_o covenant_n which_o god_n make_v with_o abraham_n he_o command_v to_o be_v seal_v to_o he_o &_o to_o all_o his_o seed_n yea_o even_o to_o infant_n but_o the_o covenant_n that_o we_o under_o the_o gospel_n do_v receive_v be_v the_o very_a same_o that_o be_v make_v to_o abraham_n etc._n etc._n 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be_v forsake_v mat._n 7.15.2_o io._n 10._o gall_n 1.8_o &_o the_o true_a minister_n of_o god_n to_o be_v receive_v jer._n 3.14.15_o so_o do_v the_o faithful_a in_o israel_n forsake_v the_o false_a priest_n set_v up_o by_o jeroboam_n &_o return_v to_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o l_o to_z jerusalem_fw-la 2._o chro._n 30.11.3_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n likewise_o to_o renounce_v all_o false_a worship_n 2._o cor._n 6_o 14-17_a esa_n 30.22_o &_o to_o worship_v the_o l_o as_o he_o teach_v we_o in_o his_o word_n &_o thus_o far_o do_v i_o approve_v of_o this_o reason_n but_o the_o consequence_n i_o must_v deny_v viz_n that_o because_o false_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v renounce_v therefore_o baptism_n also_o for_o 1._o we_o be_v to_o consider_v in_o that_o baptism_n receive_v in_o apostate_n church_n two_o thing_n first_o that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n therein_o 2._o that_o which_o be_v of_o man_n that_o which_o be_v of_o god_n be_v the_o substance_n of_o baptism_n as_o before_o be_v observe_v viz_n the_o same_o matter_n &_o form_n that_o the_o l._n institute_v &_o likewise_o the_o same_o end_n which_o be_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n &_o this_o be_v not_o false_a worship_n &_o so_o consequent_o not_o to_o be_v renounce_v again_o that_o which_o in_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n be_v devise_v by_o man_n be_v those_o unwarrantable_a ceremony_n of_o cross_v breathe_a anoint_v etc._n etc._n these_o be_v to_o be_v renounce_v as_o vain_a worship_n mat._n 15.4_o now_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v purge_v from_o the_o pollution_n of_o man_n &_o not_o with_o their_o pollution_n to_o be_v renounce_v for_o if_o pollution_n may_v warrant_v man_n to_o cast_v away_o with_o it_o that_o which_o be_v ordain_v of_o god_n then_o may_v not_o the_o holy_a vessel_n pollute_v in_o babylon_n have_v be_v bring_v again_o to_o jerusa_n nor_o yet_o the_o temple_n itself_o that_o be_v so_o great_o profane_v in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o idolatrous_a king_n have_v 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