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A08829 A relation of the Christians in the world Pagitt, Ephraim, 1574 or 5-1647. 1639 (1639) STC 19113; ESTC S5143 28,211 97

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all offices of government and burthening them with heavie taxes and payments he robbed the Church and spoyled Spirituall Persons of their Revenues and tooke away their mayntenance Whereas other Tyrants persecuted Presbyterors the Presbyters or Ministers Iulian persecuted Praesbyterium the whole Order of Ministers or Priesthood by which meanes none would apply themselves to the studie of Divinitie when after long painfull and costly study they should have nothing to live upon Such Reformations before-named may rather be called Persecutions than Reformations of a Church Is this a Reformation to dispoyle their Bish●ps of their Livings which they enioyed from the very beginning of Christianity amongst them and to root out the very name of Bishops from among them Is this a Reformation to appropriate to themselves or convert to prophane uses the Livings of their learned Pastors set apart by their fore-fathers for their maintenance and put them to poure Stipends and oft pay them as the Souldiers are paid in some places with Flemmish cheese Is this a Reformation to pilfer and pill Churches of their Plate and rich Ornaments which many a devout Saint had offered to the service of Almightie God and to convert them to profane uses which the very Goths and Vandals durst not touch no not in their Enemies Churches for feare of Gods heavy indignation upon them Is it a Reformation to pluck down Churches built to the honour of God with great labour and cost I have heard one tell me that he saw the great Church at Redding overthrowne with a Myne God be mercifull to us and deliver all them that beare the name of Christ from such Reformations But whom should I exclaime upon for this exercrable wickednesse upon the Reformers God forbid they I hope had no such intent or upon the Ministers who had delivered their Magistrates from their slavery to the Pope alas by this meanes they were brought to misery and slavery But upon some covetous persons men void of all Religion who under colour of Religion and Pietie ioyning with the Reformers made a prey of the Church and brought it to this misery How can these men expect an inheritance with Christ in Heaven who have defrauded him here in earth But what do I telling them of Heaven If Almighty God did punish Ananias and Saphyra with suddaine death who gave much to the Church and kept back only some part dedicated to God and that of their owne how shall these men stand in iudgement that never gave any thing of their owne but have seized upon those livings which not they but their Pious Forefathers with many Execrations had given and dedicated for the Service of Almightie God In this their execrable dealing they have given great offence not only to the Romanists but to them who are displeased with the Roman Superstitions and Doctrines and would willingly make a separation from them but they see in these Reformations not a secession from their enormities but rather a defection from all Antiquitie In my poore opinion to overthrow the Policie and Government instituted by Christ in his Church and continued to this our age and used in all Churches else cannot be a Reformation but rather a Deformation All this I write not that I blame that which is reformed but for the amendment of that which is deformed which Almighty God grant in his good time Queene Elizabeth of blessed memory was wont to say That it is in a manner all one to have no Clergie at all as a beggerly or base one In America THere are some Christians both Roman Catholicks and Protestants The King of Spaine is said to have in America foure Regions or at least the Maritine parts of the said Regions The Regions are New Spaine Castella Neuva Peru and Brasile The Hollanders have surprised a great part of Brasile Some write that the Indians had some knowledge of Christ before the Spaniards arriued there For the Estate of Religion in West India under the Spaniard most of the Inhabitants of the Inland Countries and wilder parts continue in their Paganisme Thomas a Iesu writeth Although saith he the Indians have long enioyed the Husbandry of Ministers so that all are baptized yet very many of them worship Idols who taking offence at the covetousnesse of their Parish Priests blaspheme the Christian Faith In America also are divers Plantations of Protestants English and Dutch not onely in the Ilands but also in the continent And thus much I have related of the Christians in the World but whereas many places of the World are unknowne to us so also are the sheepe of our great Shepheard who cannot all be counted wee being ignorant of the Pastures in which they feed The Spaniards have in West India some Bishops 2 What manner of Christians AS I have in the first place reckoned up these severall sorts of Christians before named So in the Second place my purpose is to set downe what manner of Christians these be both for soundnesse of Faith and holinesse of life For the first these Christians are all Baptized in the Name of the Father of the Sonne and of the Holy Ghost They receive the Holy Eucharist in both kinds according to our Lord and Saviours institution They Believe the Creed retaine the Canonical Scriptures yea from some of these Churches both we and the Roman Catholicks have received the Sacraments and holy Scriptures Seeing then that these Christians use the same Sacraments as wee doe Seeing they believe in Iesus Christ and professe to fight under the Banner of Christ Crucified and reioyce in their suffering for his sake farre be it from us ever to thinke these Christians to bee cast away and reiected from being of the houshold of Faith Of these Christians Brocard the Monke testifieth Moreover those whom wee iudge to be damned Hereticks as the Nestorians Iacobits Maronites and Georgians and such like are found to bee for the most part honest and simple men living uprightly towards God and Man But to answer some particular obiections made by some Roman Catholicke against these Churches And first for the Greeke Christians whom some Roman Catholicks account erronious in their opinion concerning the proceeding of the Holy Ghost whom they affirme to proceed from the Father by the Sonne Now they doe acknowledge the Holy Ghost to be the Spirit of the Sonne as well as of the Father because the Apostle saith He is the Spirit of the Sonne and in the Gospell he is called the Spirit of Truth Now seeing it is no other thing to be the Spirit of the Father and the Sonne then to proceede from the Father and the Sonne They agree with us in Iudgement though they differ in Words so saith Lombard Thomas a Iesu and also Cardinall Tolet affirmeth the understanding Greeke saying That the Holy Ghost proceedeth by the Sonne signifieth thereby nothing but that which wee our selves professe But for full satisfaction in this poynt Read the Booke lately
acknowledge her selfe a sister and not a mistris There was a time when as with an Harmonious concord she suffered with the rest of her Sisters even when as Arrianisme had in a manner overwhelmed the world There was a time when she gave her helping hand as at the famous Councells of Nice Ephesus Constantinople Chalcedon and did not rule after a Dictatory manner Let none foster Schisme against Conscience to maintaine themselves in dignities wealth and promotions to the ruine of the Christian World Christs Coat is rent his Garment is torne in pieces The World is distracted and distempered with the raging waves of Opinions By which meanes the Turke over-ruleth the flourishing and most famous parts of Christendome and have erected the worship of Mahumet even in the stately Oriental Basilisks Constantinople the Queene of Beauty is become a Mansion of Mahumetans And if these devisions continue stil the rest of the Christian world is likely to be in great danger The good God of Peace make peace in Christendome and grant that all that confesse his Holy Name may agree in the Truth of his Holy Word and live in Vnity and godly Love Amen FINIS Errata PAge 5. in marg read quod habetur p 9. l. 5. r. Lazarus first Bishop of Massilia ibid. l. 18. r. Cleve p. 10. l. 11. r. Wertzhurg l. 13. r. Voitland p. 14. Tit. r. Romanists l. 14. r. Barnabas p. 15. Tit. r. Romanists p. 24. l. 11. r. accounted mar r. Sinas p. 30. l. 20. r a Jesu p. 36. l. 16. r. to put p. 38. l. 12. r. Presbyteros p. 41. Tit. r. Bishops in ancient times p. 43. l. 7. after continent r. the Spaniards have in West India some Bishops p. 53. l. 13. r. almost all p. 59. l. 14. r. 801. p. 65. mar r. extra mar r. missae p. 73. l. ● r. l●te p. 72. l. uit Assassinates p. 7● l. 22. r. hath Mat. 28. 19. Mar. 16. 20. Mat. 28. 20. The Turks doe not only permit but defend every man in the exercise of his Religion The division of the World 1 Protestāts England Scotland Cambdens Brit. pag. 2. Ireland Ann. Anno. 35. addit mar manu S. quae habetur in Bibliotheca vaticana Dorotheus Some write that the Scots had a Bishop calld Palladius about the year 196. in the time of Donald who first of all the Kings of Scotland stamped the Crosse upon his coin being the badge of Christianity Merm de conv p. 60 Quorum sanctâ praedicatione rex Lucius totius Britanniae primates Baptismum susceperunt Lib. sa Teilai Ecclesiae landaven Archiep. Arles anno 350. As there have beene of the Clergy about 160. Lord Chancellours of England 80 Lord Treasurors all the Lord Keepers of the Privy Seale were generally Clergy men The masters of Roles were all clergy men untill the 26. year of K. Henry 8. There have bin 12. Clergy-men Lord chief Iustices of England The victorious K. Edward 3. having a great care to advance such persons in the great Offices of his kingdō and houshold as did excel others in innocency of life About the 39. of his raigne had these clergy mē officers The Lord Chancellor the L. Treasurer the L. Privy Seale the Mr. of the Roles the Chancellor of the Exchequer the Treasurer of the Houshold the Mr. of his Jewel house with many others Vide Stow p 266. Moreover in the absence and minority of the Kings divers Clergy-men have bin Custosses or Vice-royes of the Kingdome * Merm theatrū convers pag. 83. Mirae de stat relig p. 128. Transilvania Poland Brerw enquire pref Matth. a Micou l. 2. France Lazarus was the first Bishop of Masillea Doroth. in Synop. Bed l. 1. c. Part of Germany Thesaur Polit. Apot. 6 Mirae de stat Relig. lib. 1. cap. 33. Mercat pa. 134. Theat convers pag. 57. Parts of the Netherlands Switzerland Grisons Hungary Austria Bohemia Romanists Spaine Damianus à Goes reckoneth eight Archbishops and 48 Bishops Eugenius was the first Bishop of Toledo Damian à Goes Hispan pag. 19. Dam. p. 21. Italie Merm Theat Convers. France Doroth. in Synop. Relation of the most famous Kingdomes pag. 174. Bodin Poland Imper. mūd Catal. p. 40. Part of Germany Netherlands Switzerland Grisons Fletcher Fabr. relig Moscov pag. 170. Greeks Boter Relat par 2. Grand Turco Godin Curiop pag. 276. Doroth. in Synop. Rom. 16. Doroth. Merman convers Theatr. pag. 41. 42. Cedreu De stat Eccles pa. 45. He hath yearly from them 500. Scutes Poss. muscov p. 1. 1 Ierusalem Tyrr histor bells sacri lib. 14. c. 12. Isay 2. 3. Hist. Eccles. ●b 5. cap. 9. 2 Antioch Tyrr histor bel sacr lib. 14. pag. 247. 3 Georgians Chyt de stat Eccles. p. 22. 4 Circassians 5 Mengrellians 6 Asia the lesse Merman Theatrum conver p. 93. 7. Christians of Casan Astracan 8 Armenians Annal. Tom. 12. p. 319. Relatio Hist. duae duar legat Colon. An. 1611. p. 5. Nicephor li. 7. cap. 12. Herb. relat 9 Iacobites Thom à Iesu. convers l. 7. cap. 14. Zonor annal Tom. 3. in Heraclio Brer p. 150. Chaldean under the P. of Mozul Brerwood enquire Hispan exped apud Sinab p. 125. Hist. Orient c. 77. p. 149. Hisp. exped apud Silias lib. 1. p. 124. 11. Maronites 12 Indians of St. Thome Hisp. exped apud Sina lib. 7. p. 125. Inter relat novi orb p. 145. 13. China Imp. mund catal p. 159 Trigautius Hisp. exped apud Sinas pag. 125. Kirk prodro pag. 58. Idem Pat. Eman. Dia● in Epist. 23. Aug. 1625. Pa. Francis vid Kirk p. 58. De Region Orient lib. 2. cap. 64. 14 Cathaia Africa 1 Alexandria Evagr. li. 2. cap. 8. Merman theat convers pa. 30. Abassines Alvar. sect 14 pa. 1089. Purch Damian à Goes de Aethiop morib pag. 203. De convers omnigent pa. 373. Vid Gaulter Iesuit in Chronolog 3 Cephala Cosmograp fol. 99. 4 Matacassiās Thevet ib. 5 North-west of Africa Miraeus de stat Relig. lib. 3. p. 196. Idem ibid. Monomopata Zocorara Herbert relat Epist. 225. Bishop of Hippo anno 395. Cyp Ep. 60. Bishop of Carthag an 250. Euseb. lib. 6. cap. 42. Cornel Bishop of Rome anno 252. Reade Do. Saravia lib. 2. of honour due to Prelates c. 12. 1 Sam. 2. 36. Lib. Honour due to Prelats c. 32. Lord Coke 2 part of his Reports Breew p. 20. De convers omni Gent. lib. 1. pag. 4. Terr Sanct. descrip pag. 325. Greeks Gal. 4. John 16. In Ioan. Cap. 15. not 25. Pag. 24. 25. Possevine biblioth li. 6. cap. 1. Convers. omn. Gent. l. 7. par 1 c. 33 In vita Iulij 3. p. 389. Edit Col. 1626. Reverence in Churches Godig de Abas rebus pag. 133. Religio Moscov pag. 188. Chastitie In Epist. apud Fra. Hesse in itinerario Godig lib. 1. cap. 16. De convers omn. Gent. p. 284. Bane of the Church Rom. 11. 4 Gener. coun at Calcedon can 9. ibi terminentur Allegations of the Patriarch of Antioch Germanus Patriarch of Constantinople excommunicating the Pope Math. Paris p. 465 Irenaus Rodoginus pag. 18. idem ibidem Idem p. 23. Iren. Rodog pag. 30. Anno. 606. Annal. li. 5. a. 447. In vit Greg. 7. Guichard lib. 4. Epist. 59. Epist. 6. Epist. 3. In sexta Synod Constant act 4. Epist. 1. 1. Pet. 2. 13. To the K. as unto the superiour Comp. Cosmog Miraeus de stat relig l. 2. cap. 5. Narratio Card. Amulei ad Con-Trident pa. 195. acta conc Tridēt Cosm. lib. 12 cap. 2. fo 421 Cypr. Ep. 75. p. 204. Exttra de major obedient cap. unam sanctam * Gregory the great the 62. Pope of Rome writeth that none of his Predecessors tooke that name upon them The word Transubstantiation is not in our ancient writers found first in Hovenden p. 304. who lived about the yeare 1204. Biel Canon missa These Saints we had in England Inquire for St. Radegonds Chappell in the Temple London The barren women were wont to knocke at one of the Knights Templat chāber doores by whom she was brought to the Saint for helpe St. Bartilmew was Purveior to St. Thomas Becket they that would have a male-childe offered to him a Cock they that would have a Female offered a Hen Vid. Lamber peramb. page 511. Enquire for St. Uncomber in St. Pauls Church in London To this Saint they offered Oates Shrined at Wilton Adoration of Images not used in England many 100 of yeares after Christ. Alcwine writ a Booke against it subscribed by our Bishops and Princes Read Roger Hovenden Simon of Durham Flores Hisstoriarum Histor of Rochester In praefatione ante acta Theolog Witerberg Hieremiam Patriarcham Sacran ca. 2. Error 3. Thevet Cos. lib. 9. catho tr●● quae 2. Thev Cosm. lib. 10. Brerw enqu pag. 159. John 13. 35. Damian a Goes de Aethiopum Morib pag. 235.