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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A84133	The Anabaptists ground-work for reformation: or, New planting of churches, that no man, woman, nor child, may be baptized, but such as have justifying faith, and doe make profession thereof, before, to the baptizer, found false, with all things depending thereon. As being contrary to the Scriptures, and to the examples of Christ and his Apostles, ... Proved by severall arguments. Whereunto one T.L. a principall baptizer, (and apostle in their account) hath given his answers. Unto which answers, replies are also made by I.E. and some arguments annexed, proving, that the children of all such beleevers as were baptized, and so received into the Church, might be baptized, and received also. With a brief declaration what the true reformation is, and shal be, farre above these Anabaptists, and all such carnall builders conceits. And who the two witnesses of God are, by whom chiefly it is to be performed. Imprimatut [sic]. Iames Cranford,	Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.; Lamb, Thomas, d. 1686.	1644 (1644)	Wing E3381; Thomason E50_2; ESTC R23515	28,610	37

through the name of Christ a gift of the Spirit of God sufficient to make him a fit subject for Baptisme then he did his being in the gall of bitternesse and bond of iniquitie through the spirit of Satan sometime after All one as if T. L. should say and argue to prove that Judas his t●eason against Christ so wickedly acted by him when the Divell was entred into him so long after he had through the word of Christ and gift of the holy Ghost beleeved and was baptized made him as fit a subject for baptisme as the faith that he had when he was baptized in the esteeme of Luke and the rest of the Evangelists that writ of him which were very blasphemous to speake or once to goe about to argue to such purpose And whereas T. L. in his third place saith By this reasoning it will follow that a person which in case were in the Church should be excommunicated out of it by the rule should be received into the Church by baptisme which were contradictious In this T. L. saith true in respect to his owne reasoning for if Simon Magus his being in the gall of bitternesse c. made him as fit a subject for baptisme as the faith he had when he was baptized then he was now well fitted by T. L. his arguing to be baptized again and it is very probable if one may judge upon probabilities which is T. L. his rule that he hath baptized some such persons himselfe again and again And let me ask T. L. if it be not contradictious for a Baptizer though as great an Apostolicke one as himselfe to judge all that he baptizeth to have justifying faith and to be a Church of regenerate Saints and yet be but a Church of hypocrites for any certaintie of judgement he hath to the contrary The fifth Argument If Christ and his Apostles knew that there were and would be in the Church such beleeving Disciples baptized according to the rule of Christ as would be like the stony and thorny ground as well as good ground hypocrites and such as would offend the little ones that beleeved in Christ and despise him hold heresies c. and that it must needs be so that they which are approved may be known Then did not Christ nor his Apostles judge and account all that were and would be in the Church to be of the little ones that beleeved in Christ of the approved ones But Christ and his Apostles knew that there were and would be such in the Church as well as of the little ones the approved ones as it is evident by Matth. 13.21 22. Ioh. 6.64 65. Acts 5.1 2. Acts 8.13 Acts 20.29 30. Matth. 18.6 7. 1 Cor. 11.18 19. and sundry other places Therefore they did not so account and judge of all The Answer of T. L. I answer this argument confounds things that are to be distinguished First we must distinguish between the judgement and account of Christ which was above the rule given to the Apostles to judge by and the Apostles judgement according to the same rule Secondly we must distinguish between being and what possibly they might be and the Apostles judgement in relation to both Thirdly we are to distinguish between the whole joyntly and the parts severally and the Apostles judgement in relation to either Lastly we are to distinguish of the persons in respect of the time of their comming for baptisme and the time of their continuance in the Church These things thus premised the answer is easie First that Christ knowing things infallibly did not account of all that were admitted into the Church by baptisme to be true beleevers and approved and yet no rule to baptize any other but such as were so judged when they were admitted by them that admitted them and none of the places alledged doe prove the contrary The Apostles indeed might judge that those whom they conceived to have justifying faith according to probabilitie might possibly be destitute of it according to certainty And that although there were contentions and some great faults in the Church in the generall so concluded by the Apostles yet not determined who were the particulars alwayes that caused the same might leave the search of that to the Congregation who were to censure them accordingly And also having found the particulars they being in the Church the event of private and brotherly admonition and reprehension must be tried before they be excommunicated Whereas if they were not of the Church they must manifest repentance for every evill known before they be received to baptisme Matth. 3.6 Act. 2.38 The Reply of I. E. First where T. L. saith the Argument confounds things that are to be distinguished he speaks not truly it confounds nothing only it proves sufficiently that Christ and his Apostles did know and so may we by their testimonies and our owne experience that there alwayes were and would be in the Church baptized according to rule such as the places quoted doe describe and that the Church in the outward state thereof generally considered was never nor is otherwise to be judged of There will be false brethren false teachers hypocrites such as hold heresies stony ground thorny ground covetous persons lovers of this present world proud boasters lovers of pleasures more then lovers of God carnall corrupt persons whose belly is their God minding earthly things having eys full of adultery contentious c. And also of Gods elect some yet remaining like some of the former of them unregenerate and some regenerate sanctified ones justified by faith in Iesus Christ whom the holy Ghost calleth good ground trees of righteousnesse the children of wisedome the children of God the called of God in Iesus Christ beloved of God Saints by calling sanctified in Iesus Christ the Church of the living God the pillar and ground of truth the body and spouse of Christ living stones built on Iesus Christ the chief corner stone a spirituall house a Kingly Priesthood which doe offer up spirituall sacrifices acceptable to God by Iesus Christ and of whom Christ saith And upon this rock will I build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevaile against it c. For although the other evill sorts are altogether with these in the outward state of the Church partaking with them in common things yet these onely properly and truly spiritually and inwardly considered are the Church of the living God his Temple and Tabernacle And to this Church doe all the most speciall peculiar priviledges and treasures graces gifts and promises belong And when the Apostles wrote their Epistles to the severall distinct Churches as that of Rome Corinth and the rest they directed them chiefly to these who were beloved of God called to be Saints sanctified in Christ Iesus as appeareth plainly Rom. 1.7 1 Cor. 1.2 Eph. 1.1 Phil. 1.1 Col. 1.2 1 Thess 1.1.4 1 Pet. 1.2 Although they did not sever them by name nor by person from the

of the earth with their armies gather themselves together against him and his Armies and doe what they can the Beast shall not recover out of his consumption he must be taken and with him the false prophet his Clergy that wrought miracles before him and both be cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone And those Kings of the earth and the rest of his armies be slain with the sword of him that sits on the white horse which comes out of his mouth c. as the Lord hath spoken Rev. 19. For who art thou O thou great Mountain Babel before him Thou also shalt become a plain like all thy predecessors and Monarchs before thee The man whose name is the Branch he hath laid the foundation of the house of God and he shall finish it even to the full perfection And now as hitherto the Lord by his word of truth the golden oyle of his two Olive trees with which through his holy Spirit he hath lighted his golden Candlestick in her seven Lamps so that she can and hath of late held forth the same again in some measure to the world whereby the abominations of Antichrist and his Church hath been in part discovered from day to day to this presennt And as their glory decayeth so accordingly shall the face of her the Lords true Church by degrees be seen more and more to shine in her true spirituall light and beautie untill she come neerest like unto the primitive state that she in this last corrupt age of the world can come to which upon the full end and desolation of the Beast and his Church will be Then many things which now remaine even to some of Gods chosen servants hid and obscure though foretold in Scripture shall bee knowne and understood Then shall shee the true Church indeed come clean forth of that wildernesse of her secret resting place where shee had been fed so long and be farre more visible then now shee is She will not be divided into so many Sects as now are of those that falsly take on them her name having so many severall independent Leaders as there are independent Sects and as many Sects as every one that will rise to draw Disciples after him can by speaking perverse things unto them make Nay she shall be as she alwayes hath been in such respects and is undivided though disperst holding faith and truth without confusion or division yet not without some persecution and affliction which as the Lord fore-told her must bee a part of her portion in this world And although she may and shall in respect of her severall places of abode be distinguished by the names of the places yet shall she not be divided nor any one part independent from the other nor from the whole no more then the parts members of one body are nor one part say or think of another I have no need of thee no more then the members of one body may Neither shall they bee free from all kind of dependancie on the Magistracie or State where they are But as they being in place of authoritie are in duty bound to have speciall care of the glory worship and service of God and to see that he be not dishonored by Idolatry superstition or any blasphemous erronious Antichristian doctrines nor any kind of abominations or grosse wickednesses lest they by allowing or permitting the same upon knowledge be found guilty of their sinne and perish with them And also to see that the Church as well as the State be ordered and so setled in a forme of goverment according to the word of God and so protected and defended by them that all the people may peaceably be taught in the wayes of truth and salvation So the Church and Children of God are bound to submit and bee obedient And although they are free and independent from men in all spirituall things concerning God and their owne Consciences not having in such respects any supreme Head Ruler or Teacher over them but Christ their Lord nor may So call any man on earth Lord because one is their Lord nor any man Doctor because one is their Doctor even He the Lord himselfe who hath appointed no one in his stead during the time of his personall absence so to bee over his Church but his holy Spirit onely the Spirit of truth the Comforter which he hath sent and is with his Church to the worlds end to rule and governe it to teach and guide her and all her children in the wayes of truth as being the great moderator of all his spirituall matters yet are they not therefore free from all dependencie on the Magistracie or State But if they shall falle in their duties before mentioned and doe and command things contrary as hath been hitherto most commonly in all Kingdomes and States in the world Then are the Children free and not bound to obey but rather to suffer unto death they are to give unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are Gods as Christ hath commanded This Church if ever it come so neere the primitive state as is hoped upon good ground it will shee will be so eminent in every part where she shall be so severed and distinguisht that if one brother trespasse against another and will not bee reconciled it may bee knowne where to goe and tell it to the Church according to the Rule of Christ Matth. 18. which Church if the trespasser shall refuse to heare hee is then to be unto his brother in account as a Heathen and a Publican For of this Church and her children it was that Christ spake when he said Verily I say unto you Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven vers 18. And therefore hee saith againe If two of you shall agree on earth he saith not any two in the outward state of the Church But Two of you meaning of his truly faithfull ones as touching any thing that they shall ask it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven For where two or three are gathered together in my Name there am I in the midst of them For although there are and will be many within the outward state and pale of the Church that are not truly faithfull that are not of her in respect of her inward spirituall state of true Repentance justifying Faith power of the Spirit Wisedome from above Christ speakes not here unto them nor of them they though they bee never so great in place and power externall and wisedome naturall have nothing to doe with these excellent treasures They have no part with the Spouse herselfe therein it is to her and her children alone that Christ hath promised given and will give those speciall peculiar graces and those keyes of the Kingdome of heaven that whatsoever they shall bind on earth shall be