except two Churches for the second Age and more no Bishops distinct from Archbishops but Parochial and I described them at large 2. But though Cyprian and the Carthage Council said Nemo nostrum se dicit Episcopum Episcoporum yet I deny not such as may be called Archbishops Would you but restore Parish Churches or at least make true Discipline a practicable thing I should never quarrel against your Government 3. I still tell you that I am for Councils and that as large when requisite as they can well be made And Pastors there agreeing oblige us to obey their true Authority far before a single Pastor's For it is Authoritas Doctoris and it is Discipuli Obedientia that is due And a Teacher's Authority is founded in his Credibility and that on his Skill Oportet discentem credere And a thousand Historians Philosophers Physitians agreeing oblige me to greater belief than a single one And a Dissenters singularity obligeth me to suspition and suspension of my belief Besides that God bindeth us to do his work in as much Love and Concord as we can And the Canons or Agreements of Councils when Just do determine the Matter of that Concord 4. But that which I still repeat to you is that I deny the being of any such Church as you tell me I must necessarily obey That is one Ruling Ministerial College of Pastors over the whole Christian World I remember no Protestants that own such a thing but you and some such of late Mr. Thorndike and Mr. Dodwell do imply it but they speak not fully out What an unedifying way of Discourse is it for you so Copiously to call out for our Obedience when we only desire you to prove that there is any such Governing College to obey I deny the subject of your Question and you largely prove the Predicate If you would spend many hours to tell me I must obey Gabriel the Angel as the Ruler of this Kingdom I only beg of you to prove that he is such a Ruler and then to tell me how I shall know his Mind will your Exhortation to Obedience profit me VI. Your Copious instances of difficult Texts of Scripture that need a sure Exposition are no Proof to me that Ergo There is a College of all the Bishops on Earth that must be the Expositor I told you the Eunuch Act. 8. was not so resolved of the sence of Isai. 53. It was not the Ancient way A single Teacher may resolve a Doubter by Expository Evidence An agreeing Provincial or National Council may do more without knowing the Mind of all the World And many Texts will be difficult when all the World have done their best VII But you urge that no Scripture is of private Interpretation A. 1. All is not Private Interpretation which is made by Persons Pastors or Councils which are not a College authorized to Rule all the Christian World or Church If it be 1. I confess I never received one Article of my Faith or Exposition of one Text of Scripture aright For I never believed one of them upon the Authoritative-Ruling-Judicial-Vniversal Power of all Bishops on Earth as an authorized College 2. And I know not one Man living then that expoundeth not Scripture by Private Interpretation 3. And I know not that any one these Fifteen hundred Years have not done the same 2. And it is certain that there is no Commentary on the Scripture yet written by the Universal College of Bishops And it 's harder to deliver it down by Memory than by Writing Therefore all Scripture is in this sence of Private Interpretation yea such Councils as are called General have expounded little more than the Articles of the Creed with sad dissention as to their Votes But I confidently think that you follow a wrong Exposition of the Text and that it speaketh not of an Efficient Interpretation but an Objective a Passive and not an Active Q. d. you must not interpret Scripture Prophecies narrowly and privately as if they spake but of such or such a private Person that was but a present typical object of them For holy Men spake as moved by the Spirit which looked farther and meant Christ to come e. g. you know how many Prophecies are meant of David and Solomon proximately and of Christ ultimately And you know what Grotius thinks of the proximate sence of A Virgin shall bring forth a Son And of Isa. 53 c. which yet ultimately by the Holy Ghost is meant of Christ and whether the Prophet himself knew it always many doubt Josias or Jeremy may be meant as types and yet Christ Principal as typified when David saith My God why hast thou forsaken me They pierced my hands and my feet They divided my garments among them and cast lots for my vesture c. and so many Texts cited by St. Matthew these are to have no Private Interpretation as of the private Persons only the first Objects for the Holy Ghost intended them to be Prophecies of Christs when you bring me any Literae formatae from all the Bishops on Earth for another sence the reverence of their Concord will do much to make me forsake this Just so the Papists and too many others distort that 1 Tim. 3.15 which I wonder that I heard not from you when the Text plainly calleth the Church The House of the living God and telleth Timothy how to behave himself in it as a Pillar and Basis of the Truth it is but putting The Pillar for a Pillar and then saying that it is not the title of Timothy but of the Church and so it becometh useful to some mens Opinions Therefore still that which I am more confirmed in by your failing to prove your Affirmative is That there never was instituted and never was existent and is not now existent in the World any one Ecclesiastical Ruling Persona Collectiva Civilis or Governour authorized by Christ to Rule under him all the Christian World that is all the Church by Legislation and Judgment or either of them and to Constitute the Vniversal Church visible as one by relation to that One Governour Especially that all the Bishops on Earth Governing per literas formatas never were nor are such a Power nor yet as Congregate in an Universal Council If such a College of all Bishops on Earth ruling all the Christians on Earth by Consent be the Church which you mean that all must obey that will have Concord I say There is no such Church on Earth nor ever will be before the Day of Judgment After all this sure you cannot mistake the Question 1. It is only of an Ecclesiastical Power by the Word and Keys 2. It is not whether all Bishops ruling by Parts in their several Provinces and keeping Concord in convenient Meetings or Councils may be said to Govern all the Church as all the Magistrates in England Govern all England in Subordination to the King But it is of One Persona Ecclesiastica
here is no promise to subject himself to a Foreign Jurisdiction but to endeavour Peace and Concord which may better be by drawing the Papists to us than by coming to them The truest Adversaries to Popery are the greatest Lovers of true Concord and Peace § 4. All the lenity that was shewed them after here and the agency of Panzani Con. c. I pass by lest my recital be misunderstood The Reader may see enough if not too much in Rushworth and in Prin's Introduction c. I only add that this King who was so Zealous for Concord and that overcame so many Temptations to Popery distant and in his Bosom and was so firm as not to fear to grant them the audience promised yet was so much against all cruelty to them that he suffered very much for his Lenity and Clemency to them both from themselves and from the Protestants But the most odious injury that ever they did him was by pretending his Commission for that most inhumane War and Massacre in Ireland when in time of peace they suddenly Murdered two hundred thousand and told Men that they had the Kings Commission to rise as for him that was wronged by his Parliament the very fame of this horrid Murder and the words of the many Fugitives that escaped in Beggery into England assisted by the Charity of the Dutchess of Ormond and others and the English Papists going in to the King was the main cause that filled the Parliaments Armies I well remember it cast people into such a fear that England should be used like Ireland that all over the Countreys the people oft sate up and durst not go to Bed for fear lest the Papists should rise and Murder them And this is all that the Papists have yet got by their Bloody Cruelty to necessitate people in fear to take them for their Mortal Foes Bishop Morley saith in his Letter to the Dutchess of York p. 6 7. That by raising and spreading malicious and scandalous reports against the King that he was a Papist and intended to bring in Popery on that account only they raised many thousands against him without whose assistance they could never have overpowered him and oppressed him as they did And the success they had thereby against the Father encouraged them to make use of the same Engine against his Son by giving it out that the King by living so long abroad in Popish Countreys was so corrupted in his Religion that if he were suffered to return he would bring in Popery along with him So that with this groundless fear I found many considerable and very much interested Persons possest when I was sent into England about two Months before the Kings return most of which time I spent in undeceiving all I met with especially the Heads and Leaders of the Presbyterian and Independant Parties who seemed to be most afraid of such a Change by assuring them that those misreports they had heard of the King and his Brothers were nothing else but the malicious Inventions of those that were in fact or consent the Murderers of his Father For to my certain knowledge said I who was almost always an Eye-witness of their actions the King and both his Brothers c. And he was confident that this was the case of the Dutchess of York and that the Papists falsly gave it out that she was theirs to draw people to them And what then could have been more injurious to King Charles the First than this boast and report of the Irish Murderers By which they would make him to have so dreadfully begun for the rebellion was Octob. 23. 1641. and Edge-hill Fight the same day 1642. And hereby they have given the Scots occasion to publish to posterity these Scandalous words in their Books against the Cromwellians called Truth its Manifest printed 1645. pag. 17 19. The King seeing he was stopped by the Scots first in their own Countrey next in England to carry on his great design takes the Irish Papishs by the hand rather than be alway disappointed and they willingly undertake to levy Arms for his Service that is for the Romish Cause the Kings design being subservient to the Roman Cause though he abused thinks otherwise and believes that Rome serveth to his purpose But to begin the work they must make sure of all the Protestants if they cannot otherwise by Murdering and Massacring them p. 19. The next recourse was to the Irish Papists his good Friends to whom from Scotland a Commission is dispatched under the Great Seal which Seal was at that instant time in the Kings own Custody of that Kingdom to hasten according to former agreement the raising of the Irish in Arms who no sooner receive this new Order but they break out c. And I am not willing to believe this A report so dishonourable to the King his Life his Arms his Death and to all that fought for him that the Fifth Commandment forbids us to believe it though the Scots should say They saw the Sealed Commissions Yea though I had seen them my self seeing it is possible for the Irish to Counterfeit the Scots Broad Seal But by this it appeareth what wrong the King had by the Irish boasting of his Commission and the Papists pretending to more countenance than he gave them § 4. And as the said R. Bishop of Winchester was confident they slandered the Dutchess of York in her Life so he conjectureth that the Jesuit Maimbrough hath done since her death and that some of them devised the Confession which he printeth as hers which he professeth to be false as to the accusation of himself The words of Maimbrough translated are these A Declaration of the Dutchess of York translated out of Maimbourg's Histoire du Calvinisme A Person Educated in the Church of England and as much instructed in her Doctrine according to the Opinion of the most able Divines of her Party as her Condition and Capacity could admit ought to expect to be the Object of publick censure when she quits her Religion to imbrace that of the Church of Rome And as I freely confess that I have been one of her greatest Enemies if not in effect at least in will I have thought it reasonable that for the satisfaction of my Friends I should declare the Motives and Reasons of my Conversion and of the so suddain and unexpected change of my Religion yet without engaging my self in the Questions and Objections which might be made on this Occasion I Protest in the presence of Almighty God that since my return into England no Person whatsoever hath directly or indirectly perswaded me to imbrace the Catholick Religion It is a favour which I owe to the alone Mercy of God I dare not even think that the Prayers which I have made him every day since my return from France and Flanders to beg of him to discover to me the Truth have obtained for me It is very true that having seen the
hold their other grossest Errours as Transubstantiation Image-Worship Praying in an unknown Tongue forbidding to read the Scripture translated and such like They would be still Hereticks though not Papists 3. But if they only retain some tolerable Errours we should be willing to receive all such to our Communion 2. If the change must be in the Protestants what is it that they must change If it be any Truth or Duty which they forsake or any Sin which they must commit they cannot honestly so change But if it be any Errours or Sins that we must forsake that is a very desirable Change Some men do ignorantly charge some Errours on the Papists which they are not guilty of or lay the Errours of some few upon the most Some make Errours which are but de nomine to seem to be de re and lesser Errours seem great Some take divers Truths to be Errour And some are ready to call some lawful Customs of the Papists by the name of Popery and Antichristian Some would deny Papists the common Civilities and Liberties which are their due All such things as these we would have changed And if altering any indifferent Practice of ours would win them from their Errour to the Truth we should so become all things to all men to save some § 6. IV. But if Papists must come to our Churches whilst Papists without any other Profession of a Change 1. If it be but to hear Sermons which Heathens may do and if they voluntarily do it I know few that will be against it 2. But if it be to our Sacramental Communion I have these Reasons following against it § 7. I. Local Presence will make us really no more of one Church if different Religions make us uncapable than if we met at several places Turks and Hereticks are not of our Church if they should receive the Sacrament with us if they renounce not their Infidelity and Heresie if it be known II. The Bishops say now that the Conformists whose hearts are against Conformity are more hurtful and dangerous to the Church than the Nonconformists as using the publick Encouragements against them How much more will Papists be more dangerous among us than without our Churches III. It will be a Prophanation of God's Ordinance to give that Sacrament to an uncapable person And if they be forced against their will to Communicate the Prophanation will be the greater The Sacrament delivereth to the due Receiver a Sealed Pardon of all Sin and a gift of Christ and right to Salvation And unwilling Persons are utterly uncapable of these willing consent even to the forsaking of all for it being the condition IV. It must be gross hypocrisie and dissembling in the Papists to come to our Communion They take Protestants for Hereticks and Protestants take them for Hereticks And their Doctrine is against admitting Hereticks to Communion They must hear with us their own Doctrines and Practises condemned and they must hear ours asserted which they abhor And what Peace will this hypocrisie keep V. It will tempt the Preachers to give over Preaching against any of their Popish Errours when they know how offensive it will prove to the Auditors And so the Protestants also will be wronged VI. It will overthrow all serious true Church Discipline when our Church Communion is crouded with men that hold the same Principles which Protestants take to be Heretical and Treasonable against Christ and practise what they call Idolatry and are indeed of another Church and under a Foreign Jurisdiction How can our Church Governours censure and cast out any others that be not greater Sinners than these men whom they would draw in And what a Church will that be that taketh in all Sinners not worse than these VII How will it look in the Eyes of God and all just Men that our Church should ipso facto Excommunicate all those Protestants how Learned Pious and Peaceable soever that do but say that any thing in the Church Government Liturgy and Ceremonies is unlawful according to the Can. 5 6 7 8. and silence Protestants for scrupling Subscription or a Ceremony at the same time offer Communion to all the Papists that will accept it and come in VIII It will unavoidably cause a far greater Schism in the Church of England than hath yet been made For it will drive out the best if not the greatest part from its Communion Can they think that such men will Communicate with the Papists meerly because they come into our Churches who have charged them with Antichristianity and such a Mass of Heresies and Errours as have done Bishop Downame Archbishop Vsher Bishop Morton Bishop Hall Bishop Jewell Bishop Carlton Dr. Whitaker Dr. Willet and a multitude of such Will they joyn with them that have charged them with Idolatry as Dr. Reignolds Dr. Stillingfleet c. have done What though they commit not Idolatry in our Churches will that expiate the guilt of all the rest IX Will this do more to Convert the Papists or to Confirm them when they hold us to be no Church they will not take themselves to be Constitutive Parts of the Church they come in To tell them that all their Errours and Sins are no greater than are consistent with our Communion and when we shall tell them that their Roman Church is a true Church and we come so much over or nearer to them sure they will rather look we should come one step further than that they should come to us X. If we think it hard to keep out Popery now how much harder will it be when they are one Body with us and have the most familiar Conversation with us and stand on equal terms When masked and Church-Papists have served them most effectually For my part I fear no mans Censure for my open profession that I hate all Cruelty to Papists or by Papists and that I would have nothing done to their hurt unless our own necessary defence against their hurting us will hurt them And I am so far from desiring that they may be forced to our Communion either by the Writ de Excommunicato Capiendo or any other way that I would not give them the Sacrament if they voluntarily came to it without profession of a change of their Understandings Hearts and Lives If the two Parts of the Design Conjunct 1. Subjecting the Church and Kingdom to a Foreign Jurisdiction 2. And opening our own Church Doors wide enough for the Papists to come in and be imbodied in our Communion be the way to Cure or keep out Popery I confess I am mistaken in the way Chap. VIII Why the Papists abating their Innovations of the last Four hundred Years or keeping them to themselves will not make a Coalition lawful as Archbishop Bromhall thought § 1. AS to their keeping them to themselves and not imposing them on us it leaveth them still as guilty of Rebellious Heretical and Schismatical Doctrine as before and as Antichristian in Usurping