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A02616 The great bragge and challenge of M. Champion a Jesuite co[m]monlye called Edmunde Campion, latelye arriued in Englande, contayninge nyne articles here seuerallye laide downe, directed by him to the lordes of the Counsail, / co[n]futed & aunswered by Meredith Hanmer ... Campion, Edmund, Saint, 1540-1581.; Hanmer, Meredith, 1543-1604. 1581 (1581) STC 12745; ESTC S3923 32,146 62

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gouernment which you thinke expedient to bee established in this Realme in matters Ciuill and Temperall yee may attend vpon the Parliamēt and exhibite it to the body of y e Realme But you tell mee yee are a Priest then it appertaynes not to your profession to intermedle w t such affaires And to conclude though yee promyse neuer so fayre not to deale in matters of state and pollicy belieue yee who list Your profession is not to be credited the practises of Rome are knowen too too well The Iesuite I Aske to the glory of God with al humility vnder your correctiō three sorts of indifferēt audience The first before your honors wherin I would discourse of Religion so farre as is the cōmon wealth of your Nobilities The second whereof I make more accompt before the Doctors Maisters and chosen men of both Vniuersities wherein I vndertake to vowe the fayth of our Catholike church by proofes inuincible scriptures councells fathers hystories naturall morall reasons The thirde by the force of the lawe spirituall and temperall Wherein I will iustifie the same fayth by the common wisedome of the lawes standing in force and practised The aunswere NOwe you craue patience yee pleade humility and pretend the glory of God You craue audience and them indifferēt Wyll no meaner please you then the Lordes of the counsayle no baser then Doctors and Maisters chosen men I perceaue Aquila non capit Muscas Fly lower or else your humility wilbe taken for hypocrisy You say yee will vndertake to vowe y e fayth as you write of our Catholike church your words seeme to inferre a certaine singularity Haue yee a Catholike church of your own you are deceaued if yee take Rome for the Catholyke church In the iudgement of all the learned and godly the Catholike church is dispersed ouer the Face of y e Earth not tyed neyther vnited to any proper place or person The Councell of Nice comitted of olde the charge of the Catholike church to three principall Patriarkes Rome Alexandria Antioch and afterwards came in Constantinople Nilus sayth For as much as certaine countreyes are limited to the Church of Rome certeine to the Bishop of Alexandria and certeine to the Bishop of Cōstantinople they are now no more vnder him then hee vnder them Athanasius sayth Roma est Metropolis Romanae Ditionis Rome is the Mother church not of y e whole worlde but of the Prouince of Rome I will not speake of England Ireland Scotland Fraūce Denmark Polonia Suecia Bohoemia the noble states Cōmōweales of Germany Heluetia Prussia Russia Lituania Pomerania Austria Rhetia Vallis Tellina c where y e Gospell florisheth but is your church the mother church hath your Pope gouernmēt iurisdiction ouer y e Churches in Asia and Affricke It is well knowen that there is Chrystianitie in Asia Affricke Armenia Aethiopia Cyprus Constantinople Bassa Buola wyth other places where the Pope dareth not once peepe for all hys Pontificalitye at Rome And in respect of all christian assemblies and faithfull mēbers wheresoeuer the church is called Catholick that is vniuersal so y t your church and all churches are to be knowen tried not by your erring councels canōs cōstitutiōs decrees and glosses but by y e worde of God which is the touchstone of truth Therfore Irenaeus saith columna firmamentum ecclesiae est euangelium spiritus vitae The piller and buttresse of the church is the gospel and the spirite of life Augustine saith vnto y e Donatists Sunt certe libri dominici quorū autoritati vtrique consentimus vtrique credimus vtrique seruimus ibi quaer●mus ecclesiā ibi discutiamꝰ causam nostrā There are verely bookes of our lord vnto the autority vvhereof eche part agreeth ech part belieueth and ech parte regardeth there let vs seeke for the church and thereby let vs examine and try our matters This I thought good here to note lest the reader should bee caried away w t the bare name of Your catholike Church But as touching your florishe in repeating the names of scriptures Councells fathers histories naturall morall reasons lawes spirituall and temporall whome you call proufs inuincible it maketh a fayre showe to bleare the eyes of the simple contayning in it no substaūce at al So haue Piggius Eckius Staphilus Hosius Harding Saunders Dorman and Raskall bragged of heretofore and beinge examyned were found contrary Haue ye red more thē all your predecessors and Companyons haue or haue ye found new scriptures new councelles new fathers new hystories new reasons new lawes at the erection of your new order of your company they were that to face and boulster out a bad matter found out new petyte doctors Abdias Amphilochius Clemens Hyppolitus ●eontius such others It should appeare you haue some good lyking in your selfe you haue forgotten the counterbuffs whych quayled the hautie myndes of your complices your bookes are answered your fathers councells and historyes are examined y e truth apertly hath bene layed before you There passeth not a scrole from your fistes but is fully perused and retourned vnto you Leaue of bragging in wordes shewe forth substaunce in deede and know ye for certainty there shall neyther autority nor reason escape neyther passe our handes vnsatisfyed The Iesuite I VVould be loth to speake any thing that might soūd of any insolent bragge or challenge specially being now as a deade man vnder this world and vvilling to caste my head vnder euery mans feete and to kysse the ground they tread vpon Yet haue I such courage in aduauncing the maiesty of Iesus my kinge and such affiaunce in his gracious fauour and such assurance in my cause and my euidēce so impugnable that because I know perfectly none of the protestantes nor all the protestantes lyuing nor any sect of our aduersaries how so euer they fray men downe in theyr pulpits and ouerrule them in their kyngedome of Gramarrians and vnlearned eares can maintayne their doctrine in disputation I am to sue most humbly and instantly for the combat vvith them and euery of them The Aunswere YEt agayne I see there is much a doe with you Yee are a lofte in bragging and bosting then sodēly downe yee fall into a vayne of hypocrisy Agayne yee skippe and mount into the Skyes displaying your Banner of defiaunce to all the Protestants liuing and like a iolly Champion yee challeng the Combat I maruell that one being as you say yee are a dead man willing to cast his head vnder euery mans foote and to kisse the ground they trade vpon can play such pageants Nowe yee shewe your selfe a disciple of Ignatius the maymed souldier as it were one begging comming from the warres or rather mee thinkes you play Skoggan with the King or yee expresse as Sozomenus writeth the Story of the Beggers which went about to deceaue Epiphanius The one being well begged the other lay downe and fayned himselfe dead when
being commaunded to wayte the Lords comyng on y e Mounte as the story sayth The Lord went ouer a great mighty winde shauing the Mountaynes and renting the Rockes but the Lord was not in the Wynd after the Wynd came there an Earthquake but the Lorde was not in the Earthquake and after the Earthquake there cāe a Fyre but the Lord was not in the Fyre and after the fire there came a still soft or mylde hissing and there was the Lord. My minde I doubt not but you perceaue and now to y e poyncts in order as you haue placed them The Iesuite I Confesse that I am albeit vnworthy a Priest of the Catholicke church and through the greate mercy of God vowed now this eyght yeres into the Society of Iesus and thereby haue taken vpon mee a speciall kynde of warrefare vnder the Banner of obedience and eke resigned all my interest and possibility of wealth honour and pleasure wyth other worldly Felicities The aunswere IN these words yee geue vs to vnderstande your ●yr●e your Order your state and condicion You begin wyth Confiteor yeelding a shewe of modesty by confessinge your vnworthines The 〈◊〉 inferre a vehement suspicion lest that your reader should long stand in suspēce you display your banner and vncouer your nakednes Wee finde you a Priest no ●orce Of the Catholike church not amisse if it be true A Iesuite as you write Of the Society of Iesus You bewray your selfe whē as vnder the faire name of Iesus you haue together with your complices lately found out a fond order neuer heard of the space of fifteene hundred and odde yeares after Christ. Here I am to warne my Brethren and Countrey men that they take heede they be not deceiued by meanes of you and such as you are entitlīg your selfe a Priest of the Catholick faith and for the further aduaūcement of your credite to father your felowship vpon Iesus Wee know that Waspes haue Honye Combes as well as Bees wicked men haue companies like to the Church of God your brethren of the societye or Family of Loue haue a Glorious title but we find them a detestable sect of Hereticks of like antiquity with your order they are not straight way the people of God which are called the people of God neyther be they all Israelites as many as are come of Israel the Father The Arrians were Heretickes yet bragged that they alone were Catholickes calling the true professors Ambrosians Athanasians Iohānits as you do nowe call the professours of the Gospel Lutherans Zuinglians Caluinists c. Nestorius y e Heretick sayith Theodoret cloked his falsehoode with the coloure of truth Ebion beyng in opinion a Samaritane yet sayth Epiphanius would hee be called a Christian. The Turkes comming by lineall discent of Agar the bondwoman yet sayth Sozomenus will they be called Saracens of Sara Abrahams true lawful wyfe The Spirit in the Reuelation reporteth of some how they call themselues Ievves yet testifyeth he they are the Synagoge of Satan The Pharisies told Christ they had Abraham to theyr father yet affyrmeth Christ they were of their father the Deuill Looke vnto your selfe that ye be not in a wrong boxe for assure your selfe vnlesse we fynd your doctrine Catholike wee will not allowe of your title You bleare the eies of y e simple with mouthing the Church the Catholicke Church our holy mother the Church Not vnlike the vayne guyse of Hipocriticall professors in the time of Ieremie who had in their mouthes The Temple of the Lord The Temple of the Lord but in their harts th● idole groue of the deuill you are therein to be aduysed with them trust not in false lying vvords saying 〈◊〉 is the temple of the Lorde c. they shall not auayle you Here you tel vs of your order a fayre shew without but a foule shame when the secrecy therof is opened It is a new order new maysters newe men new lawes new leaders the deuil is an old knaue and now he hath put on a new coate we are forewarned that if an Angell from Heauen should bryng vnto vs any other Gospell any other Christ or christiā order thē we haue already receyued we should shun him Bevvare of false Prophets saith Christ for many vvil come in my name saying I am Christ or as you say of the society of Iesus deceiue many if any say vnto you here is Christ in this order or that order beleue them not If they saye vnto you behold he is in the desert in this Cell or y t Cell in this rocke or that rocke in this vale or that vale goe not after them or if they say behold hee is in the secrete closet or inner chamber in City Towre Temple Chappel Ile Aulter Shryne c. beleue them not And now with your pacience I will blaze the armes of your order the antiquitye of your house the originall of your lyne progresse of your society whom your selues call Iesuits the Printer shal play the crier publish the same if ye please in our natiue soyle sweete country of Englād to the knowledge of y e posterity yet for more indifferency let an other speak for vs both Ther was saith Martinus Chēnizius a certain Souldier by name Ignatius Layola as Pantaleon wryteth Cātaber a spaniard of Biskay who being at y e siege of Pompeiopolis was shot throughe both shankes with a Gunne and returning into his countrey made away with that litle which he had and determined with himself thēceforth to lead a straict and austere kynd of lyfe and consideringe with himself that Learning and knowledge auayled much to further his enterprise purpose hee got him to Paris where he studied as it is reported the space of ten yeares and linked vnto him in that space ten associats or cōpanions of his new-founde order and deuysed trade of life At the tenth yeares end with his tenne cōpaniōs he returned into Spayne in the yere of our Lord 1536. The yeare followinge to wit 1537. they came to Rome crauing the Popes Bul a faculty to goe a pilgrimage to Ierusalem there to visite as they signifyed y e holy places They toke their voiage to Venice and then as storyes record the Turkes warred with the Venetians and trauaylinge was so daungerous that they were disappoynted of theyr iourney Immediatlye they alter theyr mindes and determine to geue them selues to preaching Whereuppon the Popes Legate oyled after the Romish manner and shore Priestes seuen of them and gaue them licence freely and in all places to preach to heare confessiō and to minister the Sacramentes In the yere 1540. through the help of Cardinal Contarenus they made sute vnto Pope Paulus 3. that that order of theirs might by his autority be cōfirmed Paulus 3. graūted theyr request ratifyed theyr order with this prouiso that the number of theyr society exceeded not 60. This Pope afterward