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offer_v prayer_n to_o he_o who_o be_v conceive_v thereby_o 113._o in_o ps_n 113._o saint_n augustine_n will_v tell_v you_o this_o answer_n be_v borrow_v from_o the_o heathen_n who_o use_v to_o say_v i_o neither_o worship_v the_o very_a image_n nor_o the_o devil_n but_o by_o corporcal_a representation_n i_o look_v upon_o the_o sign_n of_o that_o which_o i_o ought_v to_o worship_n 38._o dissert_n 38._o and_o indeed_o max._n tyr._n have_v teach_v you_o that_o these_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d be_v ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d they_o lead_v you_o by_o the_o hand_n to_o the_o remembrance_n of_o the_o thing_n they_o represent_v that_o in_o procure_v they_o you_o do_v like_o lover_n who_o willing_o behold_v the_o image_n of_o those_o they_o love_v that_o so_o their_o memory_n may_v be_v stir_v up_o in_o they_o 2._o sect._n 8_o your_o nine_o section_n tell_v we_o we_o help_v ourselves_o by_o they_o to_o fix_v our_o thought_n upon_o object_n good_a for_o our_o soul_n and_o every_o where_o 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