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so_o present_a in_o all_o thing_n that_o he_o be_v also_o a_o part_n of_o they_o but_o what_o say_v thou_o of_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n answer_n neither_o do_v thou_o as_o i_o suppose_v think_v the_o substance_n thereof_o in_o very_a deed_n too_o be_v join_v with_o our_o soul_n for_o what_o be_v more_o foolish_a than_o this_o soulder_a and_o seal_v together_o of_o mind_n but_o thou_o will_v not_o say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o soul_n can_v be_v lay_v hold_n upon_o by_o any_o organ_n or_o instrument_n of_o the_o body_n 56._o question_n but_o what_o shall_v we_o think_v the_o same_o of_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n answer_n i_o grant_v that_o bodily_a thing_n may_v be_v participate_v by_o bodily_a sense_n but_o i_o utter_o reject_v that_o real_a touch_v and_o cleave_v together_o of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n with_o our_o body_n as_o a_o monster_n than_o which_o nothing_o can_v be_v feign_a more_o false_a and_o less_o fit_n for_o the_o end_n of_o the_o 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believe_v nothing_o less_o no_o not_o by_o their_o own_o canon_n otherwise_o not_o very_o pure_a 139._o question_n yea_o but_o they_o have_v the_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n which_o they_o say_v we_o lack_v answer_n but_o how_o often_o be_v it_o that_o the_o canon_n do_v forbid_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v esteem_v lawful_o ordain_v who_o be_v not_o lawful_o elect_v now_o the_o way_n of_o lawful_a election_n be_v too_o be_v seek_v of_o we_o out_o of_o the_o apostle_n especial_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o belong_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o doctrine_n and_o manner_n therefore_o they_o want_v the_o foundation_n of_o lawful_a ordination_n and_o therefore_o they_o boast_v in_o vain_a of_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n which_o notwithstanding_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v hear_v for_o we_o to_o show_v to_o have_v more_o pure_o than_o they_o have_v it_o as_o perhaps_o i_o will_v show_v in_o another_o place_n more_o full_o 140._o question_n threfore_o what_o think_v thou_o of_o baptism_n minister_v of_o private_a person_n or_o by_o such_o as_o execute_v not_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n answer_n i_o will_v esteem_v it_o no_o more_o then_o that_o which_o some_o private_a man_n shall_v do_v according_a to_o his_o own_o will_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o king_n or_o of_o the_o common_a wealth_n or_o as_o a_o feign_a seal_n devise_v of_o some_o private_a man_n according_a to_o the_o apish_a immutation_n of_o the_o public_a seal_n and_o so_o set_v to_o some_o instrument_n or_o as_o a_o fable_n question_n thou_o will_v then_o much_o less_o allow_v baptism_n minister_v in_o sport_n or_o of_o midwife_n answer_n out_o upon_o that_o gross_a and_o filthy_a profanation_n of_o the_o holy_a ministry_n 141._o question_n but_o what_o if_o necessity_n do_v urge_v it_o answer_n i_o have_v already_o answer_v that_o the_o begin_n of_o our_o salvation_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o table_n of_o the_o covenaunt_n itself_o and_o not_o from_o the_o seal_n set_v untoo_o they_o which_o yet_o notwithstanding_o if_o any_o despise_v he_o be_v worthy_o deprive_v of_o the_o benefit_n of_o they_o but_o that_o he_o seem_v not_o too_o have_v contemn_v they_o which_o can_v not_o obtain_v they_o keep_v the_o right_a order_n 142._o question_n but_o be_v not_o private_a person_n and_o those_o which_o be_v not_o lawful_o call_v to_o be_v think_v in_o like_a place_n &_o degree_n which_o if_o it_o be_v true_a certain_o the_o baptism_n administer_v by_o popish_a priest_n must_v be_v in_o vain_a and_o serve_v to_o no_o purpose_n answer_n here_o i_o will_v not_o stick_v too_o borrow_v that_o from_o the_o lawyer_n which_o make_v great_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o fault_n be_v either_o in_o the_o person_n or_o in_o the_o thing_n or_o in_o both_o in_o the_o person_n as_o when_o the_o magistrate_n be_v corrupt_o make_v who_o notwithstanding_o as_o varro_n witness_v in_o his_o five_o book_n of_o the_o latin_a tongue_n be_v no_o magistrate_n but_o the_o lawyer_n do_v more_o subtle_o distinguish_v between_o he_o who_o be_v a_o magistrate_n to_o wit_n a_o lawful_a one_o and_o he_o who_o be_v in_o the_o magistracy_n as_o when_o they_o dispute_v that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n too_o be_v proconsul_n and_o another_o thing_n too_o be_v in_o the_o proconsulshippe_n another_o thing_n to_o be_v praetor_n then_o to_o excerise_v the_o office_n of_o the_o praetorship_n as_o be_v say_v of_o barbarius_fw-la philippus_n another_o thing_n too_o be_v tutor_n than_o too_o exercise_v the_o office_n of_o tutorshippe_n in_o so_o much_o as_o that_o sometime_o he_o that_o be_v a_o magistrate_n as_o for_o example_n if_o he_o be_v a_o outrageous_a man_n may_v be_v a_o magistrate_n indeed_o but_o yet_o he_o can_v not_o execute_v the_o office_n of_o a_o magistrate_n the_o fault_n be_v in_o the_o act_n when_o it_o be_v not_o ordeder_v right_o that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o such_o thing_n be_v omit_v which_o be_v of_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o act_n itself_o now_o in_o the_o papistical_a baptism_n the_o fault_n be_v not_o in_o the_o act_n in_o which_o that_o same_o principal_a form_n be_v keep_v which_o other_o strange_a and_o superfluous_a thing_n can_v hurt_v but_o the_o fault_n be_v in_o the_o person_n for_o they_o be_v annex_v to_o the_o bishop_n &_o too_o the_o elder_n but_o this_o fault_n can_v hurt_v the_o action_n for_o that_o i_o may_v come_v more_o near_o too_o our_o divine_n they_o that_o be_v not_o lawful_o call_v unto_o the_o ministry_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o sit_v in_o the_o chair_n of_o the_o ministry_n by_o the_o consent_n of_o some_o man_n although_o deceive_v albeit_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n themselves_o they_o be_v not_o true_a pastoure_n yet_o notwithstanding_o they_o be_v to_o be_v account_v in_o another_o place_n they_o they_o that_o have_v neither_o lawful_a nor_o unlawful_a call_n so_o caiphas_n indeed_o be_v not_o the_o lawful_a high_a priest_n because_o he_o have_v by_o give_v of_o money_n enter_v into_o the_o high_a priesthood_n yet_o notwithstanding_o sit_v in_o the_o chair_n of_o the_o high_a priesthood_n albeit_o unaware_o he_o utter_v a_o prophecy_n and_o before_o this_o bishop_n sit_v in_o his_o seat_n the_o lord_n go_v to_o the_o temple_n and_o observe_v those_o divine_a ceremony_n that_o be_v not_o yet_o abolish_v so_o the_o pharisy_n so_o far_a forth_o as_o they_o sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n be_v command_v too_o be_v hear_v which_o chair_n notwithstanding_o the_o most_o of_o they_o have_v get_v by_o ambition_n and_o evil_a mean_n final_o so_o be_v those_o thing_n hold_v for_o firm_a which_o some_o man_n account_v a_o magistrate_n command_v albeit_o he_o be_v promote_v thither_o by_o evil_a endeavour_n which_o it_o be_v certain_a happen_v unto_o one_o barbarius_fw-la philippus_n a_o servant_n and_o yet_o notwithstanding_o through_o error_n create_v praetor_n of_o rome_n to_o conclude_v a_o faulty_a vocation_n may_v hurt_v the_o conscience_n of_o he_o who_o have_v violent_o break_v in_o upon_o that_o office_n but_o it_o do_v not_o defile_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v do_v of_o he_o as_o if_o he_o be_v lawful_o call_v 143._o question_n but_o that_o same_o baptism_n administer_v by_o sacrifice_a priest_n be_v defile_v with_o many_o spot_v answer_n thou_o say_v very_o true_a but_o that_o same_o essential_a form_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o singular_a goodness_n of_o god_n have_v remain_v in_o it_o the_o truth_n whereof_o can_v be_v hyndred_n by_o any_o add_a devise_n 144._o question_n shall_v not_o baptism_n then_o be_v true_a baptism_n unless_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o the_o institution_n be_v use_v answer_n no_o very_o it_o can_v not_o be_v for_o the_o form_n geve_v every_o thing_n his_o essence_n or_o be_v question_n but_o if_o the_o fault_n in_o the_o form_n as_o thou_o say_v be_v so_o great_a that_o it_o defile_v the_o thing_n itself_o do_v not_o a_o fault_n in_o the_o very_a explication_n of_o baptism_n itself_o do_v it_o much_o more_o in_o which_o thou_o be_v not_o ignorant_a how_o greevous_o the_o papist_n offend_v answer_n no_o not_o so_o for_o albeit_o that_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o doctrine_n be_v great_a and_o more_o grievous_a before_o god_n than_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o outward_a form_n yet_o notwithstanding_o it_o do_v not_o so_o much_o defile_v the_o action_n of_o baptism_n itself_o because_o the_o fault_n of_o doctrine_n stick_v too_o the_o teacher_n neither_o do_v it_o hurt_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o sacrament_n otherwise_o right_o minister_v but_o the_o fault_n of_o the_o form_n be_v in_o the_o thing_n itself_o and_o therefore_o may_v be_v such_o as_o for_o example_n if_o man_n offend_v in_o the_o element_n itself_o or_o in_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n or_o in_o some_o rite_n that_o be_v mere_o that_o it_o defile_v the_o action_n itself_o as_o for_o example_n sake_n if_o any_o shall_v not_o baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o trinity_n or_o shall_v name_v the_o son_n inequal_a or_o shall_v baptise_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n or_o in_o steed_n of_o water_n shall_v use_v special_o witting_o and_o willing_o i_o can_v not_o tell_v what_o other_o thing_n altogether_o contrary_a or_o else_o shall_v omyt_n sprinkeling_n or_o dyp_v certeine_o this_o can_v not_o be_v the_o baptism_n institute_v of_o christ_n but_o contrariwise_o if_o it_o may_v be_v that_o even_o satan_n himself_o shall_v sit_v in_o the_o chair_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o shall_v minister_v the_o lawful_a baptism_n of_o christ_n it_o shall_v be_v the_o true_a baptism_n of_o christ_n because_o it_o depend_v neither_o upon_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o minister_n nor_o upon_o his_o conscience_n 145._o question_n do_v thou_o therefore_o think_v that_o they_o do_v well_o who_o renounce_v popery_n &_o embrace_v true_a christianity_n
notwithstanding_o i_o will_v have_v this_o confirm_v unto_o i_o by_o plain_a &_o evident_a reason_n to_o wit_n that_o these_o proposition_n this_o be_v my_o body_n &c_n &c_n &_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n &c_n &c_n be_v to_o be_v take_v figuralive_o answer_n i_o will_v do_v it_o and_o that_o glad_o for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o acceptable_a unto_o i_o than_o so_o to_o open_v this_o truth_n that_o all_o colour_n and_o sleight_n be_v remoove_v it_o may_v be_v see_v of_o all_o man_n even_o as_o it_o be_v now_o i_o will_v so_o order_v my_o proof_n that_o in_o the_o first_o place_n i_o will_v bring_v my_o argument_n from_o these_o very_a word_n of_o the_o institution_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o second_o of_o the_o reason_n which_o be_v take_v from_o the_o affirmation_n of_o the_o subject_n now_o that_o that_o we_o shall_v say_v of_o the_o body_n i_o will_v also_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o blood_n 214._o question_n now_o then_o what_o be_v thy_o first_o argument_n answer_n that_o which_o he_o take_v break_v and_o reach_v the_o lord_n command_v to_o be_v take_v and_o eat_v this_o same_o he_o say_v to_o be_v his_o body_n but_o he_o take_v that_o very_o same_o bread_n break_v it_o and_o deliver_v it_o etc._n etc._n the_o evangelist_n witness_v the_o same_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o that_o same_o bread_n be_v his_o body_n but_o thing_n that_o be_v unlyke_a contrary_n in_o nature_n can_v not_o be_v speak_v proper_o of_o themselves_o but_o bread_n and_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v thing_n disagree_v by_o nature_n therefore_o they_o can_v not_o proper_o be_v say_v the_o one_o of_o the_o other_o it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o forasmuch_o as_o this_o speech_n of_o christ_n be_v true_a it_o be_v understand_v figuratyvely_a 215._o question_n but_o what_o now_o be_v the_o other_o argument_n answer_n in_o every_o proper_a and_o regular_a affirmation_n of_o the_o subject_n either_o the_o general_a word_n or_o the_o word_n of_o property_n or_o the_o word_n of_o accident_n be_v affirm_v of_o the_o special_a or_o the_o special_a of_o the_o singular_a but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v neither_o the_o general_a word_n nor_o the_o word_n of_o differencie_n nor_o the_o word_n of_o property_n nor_o the_o word_n of_o accident_n nor_o the_o special_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o bread_n therefore_o it_o can_v by_o no_o manner_n of_o mean_n be_v say_v of_o the_o bread_n notwithstanding_o it_o be_v say_v and_o that_o true_o when_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o christ_n therefore_o figurative_o 216._o question_n show_v also_o the_o third_o answer_n if_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v speak_v proper_o and_o regular_o of_o this_o bread_n than_o the_o thing_n that_o agree_v to_o the_o body_n agree_v to_o the_o bread_n and_o contrariwise_o but_o to_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n marie_n to_o be_v hungry_a to_o die_v for_o we_o to_o be_v crucify_v to_o rise_v again_o &c_n &c_n agree_v to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o not_o unto_o bread_n and_o contrariwise_o to_o be_v sow_v reap_v thresh_v knede_v &_o bake_v agree_v in_o deed_n to_o bread_n but_o by_o no_o mean_n to_o the_o body_n therefore_o by_o a_o regular_a and_o common_a usual_a manner_n of_o speech_n the_o bread_n can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n 217._o question_n show_v the_o four_o answer_n if_o that_o be_v a_o natural_a proposition_n either_o the_o same_o be_v say_v of_o itself_o or_o else_o not_o the_o same_o but_o a_o contrary_a but_o neither_o of_o both_o be_v true_a therefore_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o natural_a proposition_n that_o the_o same_o can_v not_o be_v say_v of_o itself_o it_o appear_v plain_o by_o these_o reason_n first_o because_o in_o any_o identicall_a proposition_n that_o be_v where_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v affirm_v of_o the_o self_n same_o the_o subject_n &_o the_o predicate_v must_v not_o differ_v in_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o the_o name_n only_o as_o when_o i_o say_v a_o blade_n be_v a_o sword_n as_o a_o target_n be_v a_o shield_n the_o son_n of_o the_o virgin_n be_v christ_n but_o bread_n and_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o word_n of_o the_o same_o signification_n but_o thing_n altogether_o diverse_a therefore_o they_o make_v not_o a_o identicall_a proposition_n but_o if_o now_o itself_o a_o identicall_a proposition_n be_v a_o proposition_n affirmative_a of_o itself_o some_o froward_a person_n will_v have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o substance_n too_o be_v declare_v in_o these_o two_o word_n first_o you_o must_v show_v that_o neither_o bread_n cease_v to_o be_v bread_n nor_o the_o the_o body_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o body_n furthermore_o in_o a_o proposition_n identical_a the_o subject_n and_o predicate_v be_v convertible_a or_o stand_v one_o for_o a_o other_o therefore_o if_o this_o proposition_n be_v identicall_a or_o one_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n may_v as_o true_o be_v say_v to_o be_v bake_v in_o a_o oven_n as_o it_o be_v true_o say_v that_o bread_n be_v the_o body_n give_v for_o us._n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o as_o the_o schoolman_n speak_v a_o identicall_a proposition_n now_o again_o that_o nothing_o diverse_a be_v herein_o natural_o say_v be_v thus_o prove_v by_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n if_o the_o body_n as_o some_o thing_n diverse_a shall_v be_v reguler_o speak_v of_o bread_n sure_o either_o it_z shall_v be_v speak_v essential_o or_o as_o the_o cause_n or_o as_o accidentary_a we_o have_v show_v in_o the_o second_o argument_n that_o it_o be_v not_o speak_v essential_o as_o neither_o be_v unto_o bread_n as_o the_o general_a or_o as_o the_o difference_n nor_o as_o the_o special_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o singular_a now_o it_o can_v much_o less_o be_v the_o causal_a affirmation_n for_o neither_o have_v a_o body_n the_o reason_n in_o respect_n of_o bread_n of_o the_o efficient_a cause_n nor_o of_o the_o end_n but_o the_o inward_a cause_n to_o wit_n the_o matter_n and_o form_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o essential_a affirmation_n final_o it_o can_v not_o be_v any_o accidental_a affirmation_n for_o as_o much_o as_o the_o body_n be_v no_o accident_n yea_o and_o though_o it_o be_v yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v a_o accident_n to_o bread_n it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o by_o neither_o of_o both_o way_n that_o same_o can_v be_v either_o a_o natural_a or_o a_o proper_a proposition_n 218._o question_n tell_v the_o five_o answer_n if_o that_o same_o bread_n be_v proper_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n it_o shall_v also_o be_v personal_o unite_v to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n of_o which_o shall_v follow_v those_o same_o three_o most_o absurd_a and_o false_a thing_n that_o the_o sacramental_a &_o personal_a union_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o that_o christ_n in_o this_o sacrament_n shall_v consist_v of_o three_o nature_n personal_o essential_o unite_v &_o knit_v together_o to_o be_v short_a that_o the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n shall_v be_v advance_v into_o a_o condition_n infinite_o better_o than_o the_o church_n itself_o for_o so_o the_o bread_n shall_v proper_o be_v the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o figurative_o or_o mystical_o neither_o be_v there_o any_o faithful_a man_n that_o be_v very_a christ_n but_o only_o a_o partaker_n of_o christ_n 219._o question_n i_o pray_v thou_o add_v also_o the_o sixth_o answer_n if_o that_o same_o bread_n be_v proper_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n &_o that_o same_o wine_n proper_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o they_o be_v distinct_a sign_n so_o also_o the_o body_n shall_v be_v separate_v from_o the_o blood_n or_o either_o sign_n shall_v be_v proper_o whole_a christ_n now_o if_o this_o late_a be_v true_a the_o letter_n shall_v not_o simple_o be_v keep_v but_o a_o synecdoche_n must_v be_v place_v as_o for_o example_n it_o must_v have_v be_v say_v proper_o this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n and_o my_o blood_n and_o this_o cup_n be_v my_o blood_n and_o my_o body_n and_o to_o what_o purpose_n i_o pray_v you_o have_v there_o need_v 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