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A66958
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The Catholicks defence for their adoration of the body and blood of our Lord as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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Wing W3439; ESTC R16193
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in_o adoratione_n eucharistiae_fw-la si_fw-la recte_fw-la dirigatur_fw-la intentio_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la qui_fw-la enim_fw-la docent_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la illi_fw-la profecto_fw-la panem_fw-la non_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la veer_fw-la adorabile_fw-la adorant_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la nostri_fw-la dicunt_fw-la species_n panis_fw-la &_o vini_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la accidentia_fw-la illa_fw-la esse_fw-la adoranda_fw-la bishop_n bramhal_o cite_v before_o before_o 6._o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v say_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n formal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v some_o of_o your_o author_n we_o say_v the_o same_o the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v other_o that_o we_o deny_v thus_o he_o d._n tailor_n in_o his_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v p._n 258._o confess_v the_o subject_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o idolater_n in_o this_o kind_n at_o least_o so_o as_o to_o worship_v bread_n or_o any_o creature_n with_o divine_a worship_n and_o as_o god_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a say_v he_o that_o the_o object_n of_o their_o adoration_n that_o which_o be_v represent_v to_o they_o in_o their_o mind_n their_o thought_n and_o purpose_n and_o by_o which_o god_n principal_o if_o not_o sole_o take_v estimate_n of_o humane_a action_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n hypostatical_o join_v with_o his_o holy_a humanity_n which_o humanity_n they_o believe_v actual_o under_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o be_v idololatrical_a i._n e._n as_o to_o the_o direct_v this_o their_o divine_a worship_n to_o a_o undue_a object_n object_n 31_o which_o thing_n if_o say_v right_a by_o he_o and_o the_o other_o the_o same_o dr._n taylor_n be_v faulty_a in_o his_o charge_n in_o real_a presence_n p._n 334._o faulty_a i_o say_v in_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o right_a object_n in_o a_o someway_n unlawful_a and_o prohibit_v manner_n this_o we_o be_v not_o here_o examine_v but_o their_o worship_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n of_o adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n instead_o of_o god_n for_o so_o he_o charge_v they_o there_o if_o say_v he_o there_o they_o be_v deceive_v in_o their_o own_o strict_a article_n he_o mean_v of_o transubstantiation_n than_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o commit_v a_o act_n of_o idolatry_n in_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o a_o mere_a creature_n the_o image_n the_o sacrament_n and_o representment_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n thus_o he_o when_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o object_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n etc._n etc._n as_o he_o say_v before_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v and_o must_v say_v if_o he_o will_v say_v truth_n so_o faulty_a be_v also_o daille_n reply_v to_o chaumont_n p._n 63._o in_o his_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o worship_v bread_n upon_o this_o argue_v catholic_n adore_v that_o substance_n that_o be_v veil_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o this_o substance_n be_v bread_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v bread._n by_o which_o argue_v he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o lutheran_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o adore_v a_o worm_n or_o a_o mire_n thus_o the_o lutheran_n adore_v that_o substance_n which_o be_v join_v with_o the_o bread_n but_o that_o substance_n be_v a_o worm_n or_o mite_n for_o such_o thing_n may_v be_v there_o with_o the_o bread_n at_o such_o time_n of_o adoration_n ergo_fw-la they_o adore_v a_o worm_n whereas_o both_o the_o catholic_n and_o lutheran_n explain_v the_o indefinite_a term_n that_o which_o use_v in_o the_o major_a proposition_n restrictive_o to_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o exclusive_o to_o any_o other_o substance_n whatever_o that_o be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o either_o with_o the_o bread_n or_o under_o its_o accident_n faulty_a also_o be_v dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o in_o say_v the_o protestant_n controversy_n with_o catholic_n be_v whether_o proper_a divine_a worship_n in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o element_n on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n under_o they_o p._n 117._o and_o as_o for_o the_o passage_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_v 13._o c._n 5._o urge_v by_o he_o there_o for_o it_o his_o mistake_n be_v show_v before_o before_o 12._o and_o so_o faulty_a in_o his_o conclude_v p._n 118._o that_o the_o immediate_a term_n of_o that_o divine_a worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n be_v the_o external_a and_o visible_a sign_n or_o element_n and_o again_o p._n 124._o that_o upon_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n no_o man_n can_v be_v satisfy_v that_o he_o worship_v not_o a_o mere_a creature_n with_o divine_a honour_n when_o he_o give_v adoration_n to_o the_o host_n whenas_o catholic_n expound_v themselves_o to_o mean_v by_o host_n in_o their_o adoration_n not_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacramentum_fw-la but_o rem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la again_o p._n 125_o 127_o 129._o that_o suppose_v the_o divine_a nature_n present_a in_o any_o thing_n give_v no_o ground_n upon_o that_o account_n to_o give_v the_o same_o worship_n to_o the_o thing_n wherein_o it_o be_v present_a catholic_n grant_v this_o as_o much_o as_o he_o and_o do_v not_o himself_o say_v several_a time_n that_o catholic_n condemn_v the_o worship_v of_o a_o mere_a creature_n for_o idolatry_n see_v see_v 4._o p._n 120._o if_o say_v he_o it_o shall_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a creature_n that_o i_o adore_v all_o the_o world_n can_v excuse_v i_o from_o idolatry_n and_o my_o own_o church_n he_o mean_v the_o roman_a condemn_v i_o all_o agree_v that_o this_o be_v gross_a idolatry_n again_o p._n 119._o it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o principle_n indisputable_a among_o they_o i._n e._n catholic_n that_o to_o give_v proper_a divine_a honour_n to_o a_o creature_n be_v idolatry_n again_o p._n 126._o he_o say_v he_o find_v it_o general_o agree_v by_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n consider_v alone_o i._n e._n without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n to_o the_o divinity_n aught_o not_o to_o have_v divine_a honour_n give_v to_o it_o be_v therefore_o neither_o any_o other_o creature_n whatever_o that_o be_v not_o hypostatical_o unite_v as_o none_o beside_o it_o be_v all_o these_o i_o say_v faulty_a and_o mistake_v in_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o this_o species_n of_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v a_o creature_n the_o bread_n instead_o of_o christ_n from_o which_o the_o other_o protestant_n clear_v it_o it_o 32_o last_o dr._n hammond_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o idolatry_n idolatry_n 64._o upon_o supposition_n that_o the_o ignorance_n or_o error_n of_o catholic_n be_v ground_v on_o misunderstanding_n of_o scripture_n i_o add_v so_o expound_v to_o they_o by_o the_o supreme_a church-authority_n seem_v to_o charge_v they_o rather_o with_o a_o material_a than_o a_o formal_a idolatry_n which_o material_a idolatry_n in_o many_o case_n be_v or_o may_v be_v commit_v without_o sin_n as_o also_o material_a adultery_n and_o the_o like_a his_o word_n be_v that_o if_o it_o be_v demand_v whether_o in_o this_o case_n that_o their_o ignorance_n or_o error_n be_v ground_v on_o misunderstanding_n of_o scripture_n this_o so_o simple_a and_o not_o gross_a ignornace_n may_v serve_v for_o a_o sufficient_a antidote_n to_o ally_v the_o poison_n of_o such_o a_o sin_n of_o material_a though_o perhaps_o in_o they_o not_o formal_a 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give_v to_o the_o element_n on_o the_o account_n of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n under_o they_o and_o against_o it_o he_o affirm_v that_o suppose_v the_o divine_a nature_n present_a in_o any_o thing_n give_v no_o ground_n upon_o that_o account_n to_o give_v the_o same_o worship_n to_o the_o thing_n wherein_o he_o be_v present_a as_o i_o do_v to_o christ_n himself_o so_o bishop_n andrews_n rex_fw-la christum_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n veer_fw-la adorandum_fw-la statuit_fw-la at_o non_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la terrenam_fw-la scilicet_fw-la partem_fw-la and_o nos_fw-la in_o mysteriis_fw-la carnem_fw-la christi_fw-la adoramus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la i._n e._n the_o symbol_n nulli_fw-la adoramus_fw-la so_o dr._n taylor_n real_a presence_n p._n 335._o the_o commandment_n to_o worship_n god_n alone_o be_v so_o express_v the_o distance_n between_o god_n and_o bread_n dedicate_v to_o the_o service_n be_v so_o vast_a that_o if_o it_o have_v be_v intend_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v worship_v the_o h._n sacrament_n the_o h._n scripture_n will_v have_v call_v it_o god_n or_o jesus_n christ_n and_o dissuasive_a dissuasive_a 5._o p._n 76._o he_o affirm_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o give_v divine_a honour_n to_o the_o symbol_n or_o element_n and_o so_o to_o a_o creature_n the_o due_a and_o incommunicable_a propriety_n of_o god._n so_o they_o vain_o also_o undertake_v to_o show_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v not_o terminate_v their_o adoration_n upon_o the_o element_n that_o the_o father_n when_o they_o speak_v of_o worship_n speak_v of_o worship_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n or_o symbol_n not_o of_o worship_v the_o mystery_n or_o symbol_n these_o i_o say_v be_v great_a extravagance_n whilst_o the_o roman_a church_n own_v or_o impose_v no_o such_o doctrine_n of_o divine_a adoration_n due_a to_o the_o element_n and_o the_o true_a controversy_n on_o their_o side_n be_v only_o this_o 1._o whether_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n prescind_v from_o whatever_o symbol_n be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o be_v adoreable_a as_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n with_o these_o symbol_n this_o be_v affirm_v by_o catholic_n more_o than_o this_o need_v not_o be_v so_o and_o 2._o whether_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o so_o of_o christ_n as_o present_v if_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o will_v amount_v to_o idolatry_n idolatry_n 16_o if_o we_o here_o make_v a_o further_a enquiry_n into_o the_o schoolman_n concern_v the_o adoration_n or_o veneration_n due_a to_o the_o symbol_n they_o state_n the_o same_o towards_o they_o as_o towards_o image_n the_o sacred_a utensil_n the_o h._n name_n of_o jesus_n and_o other_o holy_a thing_n omnes_fw-la say_v vasquez_n in_o 3._o thom._n tom_n 1._o disp_n 108._o c._n 12._o eodem_fw-la modo_fw-la de_fw-la speciebus_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la quo_fw-la de_fw-la imaginibus_fw-la philosophari_fw-la debent_fw-la and_o then_o of_o image_n we_o know_v the_o definition_n of_o the_o second_o council_n of_o nice_a refer_v to_o by_o trent_n non_fw-la latria_fw-la and_o for_o what_o they_o say_v of_o image_n i_o refer_v you_o to_o the_o precede_a discourse_n on_o they_o they_o 42_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a that_o some_o of_o the_o late_a schoolman_n to_o defend_v the_o expression_n of_o some_o of_o the_o former_a have_v endeavour_v to_o show_v how_o a_o latrical_a qualify_v secondary_a coadoration_n may_v improprie_fw-la or_o per_fw-la accidens_fw-la be_v say_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o symbol_n also_o as_o sacramental_o join_v with_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o as_o this_o body_n be_v as_o it_o be_v vest_v with_o they_o such_o as_o say_v they_o when_o christ_n be_v adore_v here_o on_o earth_n be_v give_v also_o to_o his_o garment_n i._n e._n without_o make_v in_o the_o act_n of_o worship_n a_o mental_a separation_n of_o his_o person_n from_o his_o clothes_n as_o bellarmin_n explain_v it_o de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 4._o c._n 29._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la say_v he_o jubebant_fw-la christum_fw-la vestibus_fw-la nudari_fw-la antequam_fw-la adorarent_fw-la aut_fw-la animo_fw-la &_o cogitation_n separabant_n a_o vestibus_fw-la cum_fw-la adorarent_fw-la sed_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la christum_fw-la ut_fw-la tunc_fw-la se_fw-la habebat_fw-la adorabant_fw-la tametsi_fw-la ratio_fw-la adorandi_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la vestes_fw-la imo_fw-la nec_fw-la ipsa_fw-la humanitas_fw-la sed_fw-la sola_fw-la diviâ—itas_fw-la or_o do_v allow_v the_o give_v of_o the_o external_a sign_n of_o latria_n to_o they_o as_o bow_v to_o kissing_z embrace_v they_o but_o this_o without_o any_o the_o least_o internal_a act_n of_o latria_fw-la or_o any_o other_o honour_n or_o submission_n direct_v to_o they_o which_o such_o inanimate_a thing_n be_v uncapable_a of_o as_o vasquez_n explain_v it_o who_o be_v so_o prodigal_a of_o this_o external_a sign_n of_o honour_n after_o he_o have_v strip_v it_o of_o any_o internal_a latria_fw-la or_o other_o worship_n whatever_o that_o may_v accompany_v it_o that_o he_o allow_v this_o external_a sign_n not_o only_o to_o all_o holy_a thing_n but_o to_o any_o creature_n whatever_o in_o our_o inward_a adoration_n meanwhile_n only_o of_o god_n upon_o the_o general_a relation_n they_o have_v to_o he_o but_o indeed_o such_o a_o abstraction_n of_o the_o external_a sign_n from_o a_o internal_a honour_n or_o respect_n as_o other_o catholic_n censure_v his_o opinion_n make_v these_o outward_a gesture_n without_o any_o mental_a intention_n attend_v they_o as_o to_o such_o object_n like_o those_o of_o a_o puppet_n or_o engine_n utter_o insignificant_a and_o so_o vasquez_n instead_o of_o communicate_v the_o latria_fw-la to_o image_n to_o the_o symbol_n to_o other_o holy_a thing_n seem_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o other_o to_o allow_v they_o no_o honour_n or_o veneration_n at_o all_o and_o so_o in_o seem_v to_o say_v too_o much_o to_o say_v too_o little_a which_o have_v be_v more_o large_o discourse_v before_o of_o image_n image_n 42._o etc._n etc._n and_o a_o late_a author_n 129._o author_n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n p._n 129._o may_v have_v do_v well_o in_o mention_v this_o author_n opinion_n to_o have_v give_v also_o a_o true_a relation_n of_o it_o affirm_v only_o a_o external_a sign_n of_o honour_n give_v to_o the_o creature_n void_a of_o any_o internal_a the_o least_o respect_n to_o they_o ita_fw-la ut_fw-la tota_fw-la mentis_fw-la intentio_fw-la in_o exemplar_n non_fw-la in_o imaginem_fw-la or_o deum_n non_fw-la creaturam_fw-la feratur_fw-la which_o will_v easy_o have_v take_v away_o all_o that_o malignity_n he_o fasten_v upon_o it_o this_o for_o vasquez_n and_o as_o for_o bellarmin_n adoration_n improprie_fw-la and_o per_fw-la accidens_fw-la bishop_n forbes_n tell_v we_o l._n 2._o c._n 2._o 2._o 11._o sententia_fw-la ista_fw-la bellarmini_fw-la plurimis_fw-la doctoribus_fw-la romanensibus_fw-la displicet_fw-la and_o bellarmin_n himself_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o former_a citation_n wave_v these_o school_n dispute_v tell_v we_o status_fw-la quaestionis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la nisi_fw-la a_o christus_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n sit_fw-la adorandus_fw-la i._o e._n no_o more_o be_v define_v decide_v impose_v on_o christian_n faith_n by_o the_o church_n than_o this_o nor_o more_o needs_o be_v despute_v with_o or_o maintain_v against_o protestant_n than_o this_o this_n in_o the_o 2_o d._n place_n from_o from_o 11._o of_o catholic_n profess_v their_o adoration_n with_o divine_a worship_n of_o christ_n only_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n with_o the_o symbol_n not_o of_o the_o symbol_n or_o not_o of_o the_o sacrament_n if_o take_v for_o the_o symbol_n symbol_n 17_o 3_o lie_n therefore_o also_o catholic_n ground_v their_o adoration_n a_o thing_n cardinal_n perron_n much_o insist_o upon_o in_o his_o reply_n to_o king_n james_n not_o on_o transubstantiation_n though_o both_o transubstantiation_n and_o consubstantiation_n involve_v it_o so_o that_o either_o of_o these_o 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the_o self_n same_o object_n as_o now_o in_o the_o self_n same_o place_n namely_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n still_o present_a there_o with_o the_o symbol_n and_o therefore_o there_o adorable_a though_o present_a after_o another_o