be_v not_o probable_a that_o jesus_n christ_n say_v to_o they_o drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o cup_n of_o blood_n and_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o cup_n of_o blood_n but_o a_o cup_n of_o wine_n but_o when_o jesus_n christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v to_o they_o of_o a_o cup_n of_o blood_n for_o the_o wine_n be_v not_o then_o convert_v into_o christ_n blood_n because_o according_a to_o our_o adversary_n it_o be_v not_o change_v until_o jesus_n christ_n have_v make_v a_o end_n of_o utter_v these_o follow_a word_n for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n but_o he_o utter_v these_o word_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o before_o he_o utter_v those_o for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n because_o a_o man_n must_v utter_v a_o proposition_n before_o he_o can_v give_v the_o reason_n of_o it_o answ._n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o when_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o he_o mean_v of_o his_o blood_n for_o although_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o sacramental_a 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a_o thing_n be_v convert_v into_o another_o we_o can_v see_v the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o thing_n convert_v but_o only_o of_o that_o into_o which_o it_o be_v convert_v for_o example_n when_o the_o seed_n be_v change_v into_o a_o animal_n we_o can_v see_v no_o more_o the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o seed_n but_o of_o the_o animal_n only_o and_o when_o jesus_n christ_n turn_v water_n into_o wine_n the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o the_o water_n be_v no_o more_o see_v but_o of_o the_o wine_n only_o etc._n etc._n but_o in_o the_o eucharist_n we_o can_v after_o the_o consecration_n perceive_v the_o effect_n property_n accident_n or_o part_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o we_o see_v there_o all_o the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n therefore_o in_o the_o eucharist_n the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o convert_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_o that_o which_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n and_o have_v all_o the_o effect_n accident_n and_o property_n of_o bread_n be_v no_o bread_n but_o christ_n body_n clothe_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o bread_n than_o it_o may_v likewise_o be_v say_v that_o they_o that_o appear_v to_o be_v man_n and_o have_v all_o the_o effect_n property_n and_o accident_n of_o man_n be_v not_o man_n but_o horse_n clothe_v with_o the_o accident_n of_o man_n answ._n i_o distinguish_v the_o major_a proposition_n thus_o when_o a_o thing_n be_v convert_v etc._n etc._n we_o can_v see_v the_o effect_n and_o property_n etc._n etc._n with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n i_o confess_v with_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n of_o our_o soul_n viz._n with_o our_o understanding_n support_v by_o divine_a faith_n i_o deny_v the_o major_a with_o its_o minor_a also_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n which_o be_v both_o shatter_a the_o consequence_n must_v needs_o vanish_v away_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o effect_n and_o property_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o see_v with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n be_v because_o they_o be_v object_n of_o faith_n which_o object_n be_v beyond_o the_o sphere_n and_o capacity_n of_o our_o corporal_a eye_n and_o other_o sense_n for_o the_o object_n of_o our_o corporal_a sight_n be_v coloratum_fw-la quid_fw-la some_o colour_a thing_n and_o the_o object_n of_o our_o other_o sense_n be_v mere_a corporeal_a thing_n but_o object_n of_o divine_a faith_n be_v never_o see_v nor_o know_v by_o their_o colour_n nor_o by_o smell_v touch_v or_o taste_v from_o whence_o a_o man_n may_v see_v how_o sharp_a keen_a and_o witty_a this_o arrow_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n be_v against_o transubstantiation_n which_o be_v a_o high_a object_n and_o mystery_n of_o divine_a faith_n as_o to_o both_o his_o example_n of_o seed_n into_o a_o animal_n and_o water_n turn_v into_o wine_n without_o any_o of_o their_o effect_n see_v either_o in_o the_o animal_n or_o in_o the_o wine_n i_o confess_v all_o that_o to_o be_v true_a and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o those_o be_v but_o mere_a simple_a conversion_n and_o no_o sacrament_n but_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o only_o a_o conversion_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o but_o it_o constitute_v a_o sacrament_n also_o and_o because_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o although_o the_o entitye_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v destroy_v their_o accident_n shall_v remain_v to_o be_v symbol_n or_o sign_n of_o our_o spiritual_a nourishment_n and_o be_v therefore_o call_v analogical_o bread_n and_o wine_n though_o they_o be_v not_o real_o but_o mere_a accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o the_o natural_a entitye_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n wherewith_o they_o be_v former_o sustentate_v be_v real_o change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n this_o then_o be_v so_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o although_o the_o sacramental_a species_n appear_v to_o our_o corporal_a eye_n to_o be_v but_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o according_a to_o our_o sense_n seem_v to_o have_v but_o the_o effect_n accident_n and_o propertye_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n yet_o to_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o soul_n viz._n to_o the_o understanding_n support_v by_o divine_a faith_n they_o be_v not_o real_o such_o but_o the_o true_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n because_o he_o himself_o say_v so_o and_o his_o word_n can_v make_v they_o so_o and_o it_o be_v also_o plain_a truth_n that_o if_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n have_v ever_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n worthy_o but_o alas_o he_o never_o do_v it_o will_v have_v wrought_v its_o spiritual_a effect_n and_o property_n upon_o his_o poor_a soul_n as_o it_o do_v upon_o all_o other_o devout_a one_o and_o fill_v they_o with_o interior_a joy_n devotion_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o mind_n and_o conscience_n but_o since_o he_o never_o do_v or_o believe_v in_o christ_n word_n as_o his_o church_n understand_v they_o but_o be_v always_o lead_v by_o the_o tract_n of_o his_o sense_n only_o to_o the_o sight_n of_o this_o supernatural_a object_n certain_a i_o say_v it_o be_v and_o the_o very_a plain_a truth_n that_o he_o have_v no_o more_o faith_n in_o he_o than_o a_o horse_n have_v that_o follow_v the_o send_v of_o oat_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v he_o far_o rodon_n 5._o in_o every_o substantial_a conversion_n there_o must_v be_v a_o subject_a to_o pass_v from_o one_o substance_n to_o another_o for_o else_o it_o will_v be_v a_o creation_n which_o be_v the_o sole_a action_n that_o do_v not_o presuppose_v a_o subject_n but_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eueharist_n after_o the_o consecration_n there_o be_v no_o subject_n because_o according_a to_o our_o adversary_n there_o remain_v no_o subject_n for_o at_o they_o assert_v the_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v without_o any_o subject_n at_o all_o therefore_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n there_o be_v no_o substantial_a conversion_n answ._n to_o this_o argument_n i_o answer_v deny_v the_o major_a for_o this_o proposition_n be_v verify_v only_o in_o formal_a substantial_a conversion_n that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o one_o substantial_a form_n be_v change_v or_o convert_v into_o another_o as_o when_o the_o form_n of_o seed_n be_v change_v into_o the_o form_n of_o a_o animal_n and_o the_o form_n of_o water_n be_v change_v into_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n at_o the_o feast_n of_o cana_n in_o galilee_n which_o be_v but_o simple_a substantial_a conversion_n in_o which_o the_o matter_n or_o subject_n pass_v from_o one_o form_n to_o another_o but_o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o quite_o other_o sort_n of_o substantial_a conversion_n for_o not_o only_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o their_o matter_n or_o subject_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o
the_o force_n of_o his_o creative_a word_n unless_o they_o can_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v beyond_o god_n power_n to_o transubstantiate_v one_o thing_n into_o another_o which_o no_o body_n can_v demonstrate_v because_o it_o be_v a_o â—…asier_a thing_n in_o its_o self_n to_o transubstantiate_v then_o to_o create_v what_o we_o say_v of_o god_n the_o father_n word_n the_o same_o we_o say_v of_o christ_n because_o of_o their_o equality_n in_o power_n hence_o follow_v evident_o that_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n second_o instance_n viz._n this_o be_v a_o table_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n because_o of_o the_o disparity_n between_o christ_n word_n and_o the_o word_n of_o all_o author_n sacred_a and_o profane_a therefore_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n must_v give_v we_o leave_v to_o conclude_v thus_o contrary_a to_o he_o viz._n that_o since_o jesus_n christ_n express_v his_o mind_n by_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o since_o his_o power_n be_v so_o great_a that_o he_o be_v able_a to_o do_v what_o he_o say_v and_o since_o his_o word_n be_v verity_n and_o truth_n it_o follow_v evident_o that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v contrary_a to_o the_o common_a usage_n of_o all_o the_o world_n and_o that_o he_o do_v not_o take_v the_o word_n but_o in_o their_o proper_a and_o literal_a meaning_n as_o all_o other_o man_n do_v when_o they_o say_v this_o be_v my_o hand_n this_o be_v my_o cloak_n he_o be_v able_a to_o effect_v what_o he_o say_v which_o no_o other_o author_n sacred_a or_o profane_a be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o follow_v also_o that_o the_o romisâ—…_n doctor_n need_v not_o seek_v and_o can_v have_v a_o clear_a passage_n out_o of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o real_a presence_n than_o this_o this_o be_v my_o body_n whence_o also_o follow_v that_o this_o conversion_n and_o presence_n have_v a_o excellent_a foundation_n in_o holy_a scripture_n but_o let_v we_o now_o examine_v his_o ground_a reason_n concern_v the_o common_a usage_n of_o word_n thus_o he_o argue_v rodon_n 2._o thing_n must_v be_v before_o there_o be_v any_o image_n picture_n or_o representation_n of_o they_o and_o consequent_o image_n be_v after_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v image_n but_o word_n be_v the_o image_n of_o conception_n and_o conception_n the_o image_n of_o thing_n therefore_o thing_n be_v such_o before_o we_o can_v real_o conceive_v they_o to_o be_v such_o and_o we_o conceive_v they_o to_o be_v such_o before_o we_o can_v say_v they_o be_v such_o therefore_o that_o which_o christ_n hold_v and_o give_v to_o his_o disciple_n express_v by_o the_o word_n this_o be_v his_o body_n before_o he_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v his_o body_n and_o he_o conceive_v that_o it_o be_v his_o body_n before_o he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v not_o by_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n tâ—…is_n be_v my_o body_n that_o that_o which_o jesus_n christ_n give_v to_o his_o disciple_n express_v by_o the_o word_n this_o be_v his_o body_n but_o rather_o it_o be_v by_o blessing_n the_o bread_n or_o thanksgiving_n that_o the_o bread_n be_v make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n because_o it_o be_v make_v the_o sacrament_n of_o it_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n must_v be_v expound_v thus_o this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n and_o these_o word_n this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n must_v be_v expound_v thus_o this_o bread_n be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o my_o body_n answ._n to_o this_o argument_n i_o answer_v grant_v the_o antecedent_n with_o its_o sequel_n but_o that_o which_o he_o infer_v viz._n that_o word_n be_v the_o image_n of_o conception_n i_o distinguish_v thus_o word_n be_v the_o improper_a image_n of_o conception_n i_o confess_v word_n be_v the_o proper_a image_n of_o conception_n i_o deny_v for_o although_o word_n be_v sign_n of_o conception_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o their_o proper_a image_n because_o as_o dialectic_o common_o say_v though_o every_o image_n be_v a_o sign_n yet_o every_o sign_n be_v not_o a_o image_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o a_o image_n have_v always_o a_o essential_a relation_n or_o likeness_n to_o its_o prototype_n which_o a_o sign_n have_v not_o always_o to_o the_o thing_n it_o signify_v nâ—…y_v the_o very_a signum_fw-la naturale_fw-la natural_a sign_n it_o â—…elf_n have_v not_o that_o similitude_n for_o otheâ—…wise_o smoke_n which_o be_v a_o natural_a sign_n of_o fire_n and_o the_o voice_n of_o a_o man_n which_o be_v the_o natural_a sign_n of_o a_o man_n the_o one_o will_v be_v like_o fire_n and_o the_o other_o like_o a_o man_n sure_o it_o be_v and_o to_o every_o man_n eye_n that_o the_o king_n head_n set_v up_o before_o a_o tauâ—…rn_n signify_v that_o wine_n be_v to_o be_v sell_v there_o and_o yet_o the_o king_n head_n be_v no_o image_n of_o wine_n because_o it_o be_v not_o like_a wine_n so_o that_o a_o image_n and_o a_o sign_n be_v two_o different_a thing_n but_o suppose_v a_o sign_n be_v a_o improper_a image_n because_o as_o a_o image_n be_v like_a to_o its_o prototype_n so_o a_o sign_n represent_v the_o thing_n it_o signify_v i_o distinguish_v his_o minor_a thus_o but_o word_n be_v the_o image_n of_o conception_n and_o consequent_o must_v come_v after_o the_o thing_n they_o signify_v humane_a word_n be_v sign_n and_o must_v come_v after_o etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v divine_a word_n such_o as_o christ_n be_v be_v sign_n and_o must_v come_v after_o etc._n etc._n i_o deny_v for_o humane_a word_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o mere_a empty_a and_o speculative_a sign_n or_o shadow_n of_o the_o thing_n they_o signify_v but_o christ_n word_n be_v practical_a sign_n and_o cause_n of_o what_o they_o signify_v and_o so_o they_o precede_v and_o must_v not_o come_v after_o the_o thing_n by_o they_o signify_v and_o so_o transubstantiation_n which_o be_v the_o concept_n of_o christ_n word_n when_o he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n follow_v and_o be_v make_v by_o his_o effective_a word_n this_o solution_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o omnipotent_a uâ—…e_n of_o christ_n word_n which_o be_v not_o only_a sign_n but_o also_o do_v cause_n by_o creation_n or_o production_n what_o thing_n he_o please_v and_o how_o he_o please_v to_o conceive_v they_o shall_v be_v for_o we_o never_o hear_v as_o yet_o of_o any_o other_o way_n god_n either_o creatâ—…d_n or_o produce_v any_o thing_n but_o by_o hâ—…s_n bâ—…re_a word_n therefore_o although_o every_o creature_n word_n come_v after_o the_o thing_n it_o signi_v yet_o christ_n word_n which_o be_v both_o a_o practical_a sign_n and_o cause_n of_o thing_n must_v precede_v what_o he_o intend_v to_o create_v produce_v or_o change_v second_o i_o answer_v the_o say_v minor_a that_o whereas_o the_o romish_a doctor_n hold_v transubstantiation_n to_o be_v not_o only_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n bâ—…t_v also_o the_o sign_n and_o sacrament_n thereof_o for_o they_o say_v it_o be_v both_o sacramentum_fw-la &_o res_fw-la the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o thing_n itself_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o sign_n we_o say_v it_o presupposeth_a the_o thing_n it_o represent_v viz._n christ_n patible_a body_n upon_o the_o cross_n for_o although_o it_o be_v still_o the_o self_n same_o body_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o still_o in_o the_o self_n same_o manner_n it_o be_v now_o glorify_v and_o it_o be_v then_o patible_a it_o be_v then_o in_o its_o human_a shape_n &_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o veil_v under_o the_o sacramental_a species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o repugnance_n or_o inconvenience_n that_o the_o same_o thing_n shall_v signify_v or_o represent_v its_o own_o self_n when_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o thing_n be_v change_v for_o example_n it_o be_v neither_o repugnant_a or_o inconvenient_a that_o a_o man_n upon_o a_o theatre_n shall_v represent_v and_o signify_v what_o he_o do_v himself_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o army_n or_o to_o represent_v his_o own_o youthful_a action_n in_o his_o old_a age_n it_o be_v not_o repugnant_a to_o any_o man_n and_o yet_o the_o 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