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A71123	A learned and very usefull commentary upon the whole prophesie of Malachy by ... Mr. Richard Stock ... ; whereunto is added, An exercitation upon the same prophesie of Malachy, by Samuel Torshell.	Stock, Richard, 1569?-1626.; Torshell, Samuel, 1604-1650. Exercitation vpon the prophecy of Malachy.	1641 (1641)	Wing T1939; ESTC R7598	653,949	676

and know themselves but men It is a thing that cannot be denied because stories of all times do manifestly prove it that sometimes errours and heresies have so much prevailed that the most part of them who held and possessed great places of office and dignity in the Church of God either for feare flattery hope of gaine or honour or else mis-led through simplicitie or directly falling into errour and heresie and departed from the soundnesse of the faith so that the sincerity of religion was upholden and the truth defended and maintained onely by some few and they molested persecuted and traduced as turbulent and seditious persons enemies to the common peace of the Christian world To say nothing of the times of Christ and after him of the first Churches in the Acts. This was the state of the Christian world in the time of Athanasius when in the Councell of Selencia and Ariminium the Nicence faith was condemned and all the Bishops of the whole world were carried from the soundnesse of the faith save Athanasius and some few Confessors banished with him So that Hieron contra Luciferam Ingemuit totius orbis miratus est factum se Arrianum So Hilarius contra Aux Episc Mill. complained that the Arrian faction had confounded all Paphnutius in the Councell of Nice for the marriage of Ministers was alone But yee are gone out of the way Though they succeeded them in their places yet not in their faith not in the truth of doctrine Doctrine There may be an ordinary and externall succession of place and person without succession of faith and truth of doctrine Manifest here in these Priests who held the places and did ordinarily succeed the Priests who were specially approved of God yet did not succeed them in faith and in soundnesse of truth And as it was in the times before often a succession of the one without the other And this is first manifest by the former doctrine for when it often happened that all the ordinary Priests such as had the outward succession were in errour God exciting extraordinary Prophets to reprove them as Isaiah Ieremie c. It must needs be that there was a separation of these two In particular it is manifest in the time of Elijah 1 King 19.14 So when wicked Ahaz was King 2 King 16.11 Vriah the high Priest corrupting the worship In the Church of the Jewes in Christs time it was so for they condemning Christ and his followers as schismaticall Joh. 9.22 and 12.42 This is further proved Acts 20.29.30 These had their succession from the Apostles and held the same seats the same places which the Apostles held yet had not the same truth and faith So out of the Ecclesiasticall stories it is manifest that the Arrian Bishops as Eusebius Nicomediens and Eustathius and others did derive their succession of place persons seats and Churches from the Apostles For they were called chosen and ordained after the custome of the Church and had no new but the lawfull calling So of the Donatists and Paulus Samosatenus in the Church of Antioch succeeded Peter as well as they did at Rome And the Greeke Church judged by the Papists schismaticall hath her personall succession not onely 1200. yeares as they confesse from Constantines time but long before from Andreas the Apostle as Nicephorus lib. 8. Chronol cap. 6. Reason 1 Because the grace of God and the truth is not hereditary that men should leave it at their pleasure to their heires and successors as they can their places and seats for John 3. as the winde so the Spirit blowes where it lists Not living men can make others whom they gladly would partakers of their faith and truth how should the dead and departed living men more likely Reason 2 Because as in a common wealth new Lords new lawes and succeeding men have different mindes affections wills desires ends c. and so change many things so it is in the Church And though they should leave them it as an inheritance yet we see children hold not their patrimony but many spend all so of this And as is said of Himeneus and Alexander that they made shipwrack of faith 1 Tim. 1.19.20 So of others Vse 1 Then falls to the ground the doctrine of Popery making this externall and personall succession a note of the Church and by it would prove theirs to be the true Church But if there may be such a succession without true faith and if true faith onely makes a true Church then can it be no true nor certaine note Besides it is not certaine nor expressed in the word of God that the Pope was Peters successor no not in place but to be proved onely by tradition and not to be deduced out of the Word as Bellarmine de Rom. Pont. lib. 2. cap. 12. confesseth And so the maine point whereon the government and Hierarchy of the Papacie dependeth hath no word in the Scriptures to prove it and so the whole is hanged upon the conjectures of men as upon a rotten threed For the Scripture not affirming it what assurance can there be for matter of faith the matter must needs be suspitious and doubtfull Againe even the histories which is their proofe are in such various opinions that a man can hardly tell whom to follow touching Peters comming to Rome and his immediate successors Some say he came to Rome in the first yeare of Claudius the Emperour some in the second some in the fourth some in the tenth and it may be that none of these is true sure it is all cannot be true For his successors Tertullian maketh Clement his next successor Optatus nameth Linus and then Clement Irenaeus maketh Linus then Cletus then Clement If they differ thus what certainty where should faith finde any sure ground If then the succession at best is questionable and doubtfull if it may be certaine and yet be dis-joyned from the succession of faith as it is most certainly in them and true faith onely makes a Church then can this be no true note of the Church Vse 2 To teach us not to be deceived with the glorious shew and great boast of such succession specially when there is an apparant digression from the faith or a probable doubt of corruption in it For what succession soever be it never so long or glorious as a greater could not be then these Priests and people could have objected unto the Prophet yet if it be without truth of doctrine and true faith which is the very soule of succession it is nothing else but a very dead carkasse whereas true faith without any such outward succession establisheth and maketh a Church And indeed one of the purest and most excellentest Churches was without such a succession For the Church of which Christ in his owne person was Authour and Master in which the Apostle was brought up instructed had no succession And yet none will or dare deny that it was the best and

nothing too much for them so much the Prophet insinuates here and as much is manifest Ezek. 16.16.17.18.19 And thou didst take thy garments deckedst thine high places with divers colours plaiedst the harlot thereupon the like thing shall not come neither hath any done so thou hast also taken thy faire Iewels made of my gold and of my silver which I had given thee and madest to thy selfe images of men and diddest commit whoredome with them And tookest thy broidered garment and coveredst them and thou hast set mine oile and my perfume before them My meat also which I gave thee and fine flower oile and honey wherewith I fed thee thou hast even set it before them for a sweet savour Thus it was saith the Lord God Exod. 32.3 They brake off and gave away their golden ear rings to make an Idoll 2. Kings 16.3 and 17.17 They bestowed their children on Idols Judg. 17.3 The mother of Micha gave 200. shekels of silver to the founder to make a graven and molten Image Reason 1 Because this is a voluntary and free service of their own heads and inventions now we see in all things men spend more freely and more liberally upon their owne inventions then upon those things which they are tied unto Men bestow more upon their own children Reason 2 Because Idolatry an superstition is naturall and sencible agreeable to nature and sense and so more pleasant and delightfull on things that are delightfull and pleasant men bestow more time more tendance and more goods Reason 3 Because Idolatry is accounted adultery and Idol a harlot an Idolater an Adulterer passim in Scripturis Now as one saith non minor suspitionis quam libidinis impetus ad rapiendos homines Men are as mad upon an Idol as upon a harlot and as they will spend all to satisfie their lust so to follow their superstition Vse 1 This may serve to reject and justly the suite of our Papists for favour and forbearance upon this ground because of the great cost which their ancestors they say have bestowed upon this land in building of Schooles Colledges and Hospitalls and endowed them with rich possessions D Bishop prefat they must first presuppose and indeed prove that it is the truth which they professe and that theirs is the true religion else may any idolater in the world make the same reason for himselfe and so may an adulterer plead for favour because he hath been at such cost charges with his harlot and endowed her and hers with such great riches but if not the one why the other why might not the Canaanites by the same reason have pleaded for favour from the Israelites Deuter. 6.10.11 Yet it was not any motive to bring favour unto them nay for all that they were commanded to destroy them And can the Church have a better guide and Christian common-wealthes a better example But it may be that they suppose that this should prove that their superstition is true religion because they thus decked it bestowed infinite cost otherwise upon it By the same reason may any idolater in the world plead that it is the truth and the true worship of God seeing their bounty towards their false Gods hath beene equall in most things and superiour in divers to this of theirs yea by this reason might many a harlot plead against the lawfull and just wife that she was not so but her self because she lives in the house is maintained daintily gorgeously when the other is excluded and shut out in poverty and misery but if not this why that but in all this I grant them but that which may easily be proved to the contrary that our ancestors in the first institution of these things did not intend the Popish faith and religion Vse 2 Then is it not to be wondred at if we see the great liberality of our superstitious Papists towards their superstitions and idolatry for it hath beene so with all idolaters whatsoever and no reason but it should be so with this which is more naturall and fitting the humours and corruption of nature then any other superstition in the world And as some say of Manna that it fitted and was tastfull to every pallate according to the humour of it so may we more certainely say of this as hath beene divers times shewed that it is fitting to the ambitious covetous voluptuous licentious and every one of what affection soever is it any marvaile then though men be marveilous liberall when as every man that hath it cares not what he bestowes upon his humour besides their doctrine of merits hath brought them in no small gaine specially from men who lie a dying who to inrich them though they laboured all their life to inrich their wife and children yet care not how poore they leave them then because they are so taught that by such meanes they may redeeme their soule and satisfie for many things they else might suffer what will not a man give to save his life when he is upon the gallowes more in this Yet ye have spoyled me Their fact and offence in the relation and comparison which standes thus they that is idolaters will not spoyle but they will cleave fast unto their Gods and be very devout yet ye have not done so to me Doctrine Idolaters often cleave faster and are more devout to their Idols and their worship then they who professe the truth cleave or are devoted to the Lord. Vse It should teach us in that to imitate them lest they rise up in judgement and condemne us Let it be our resolution as it is in Mic. 4.5 For all people will walke every one in the name of his God and we will walke in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever Have ye Upon whom I have bestowed many and great things yet have ye spoiled me and so makes their sinne the greater Doctr. They who have received more from God then others if they contemne and injure him and take from him his due or any such like they offend more then the rest vide Cap. 1.12 but ye have polluted it Spoiled me They tooke away and with-held the maintainance of his Ministers who were the instruments and meanes of his worship therefore he accounts himselfe to be injured and spoiled Hence a generall doctrine Doctr. The injury contempt and abuse committed against the meanes of Gods worship is held to be done against God himselfe Thus God takes this done to his Ministers vide cap. 1.7 The table of the Lord is not to be regarded In tithes and offerings This is that wherein they had offended and God complaines he was spoiled because the portion of their goods which was due to him they had kept from his house and Ministers Doctrine It is a sacrilegious and impious thing for men to with-hold or withdraw the maintenance of the Ministers So much the Prophet affirmeth here so much all those places prove which command such