Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	bishop_n	church_n	succession_n	1,636	5	10.2155	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A56149	The altar dispute, or, A discovrse concerning the severall innovations of the altar wherein is discussed severall of the chiefe grounds and foundations whereon our altar champions have erected their buildings / by H. P.	Parker, Henry, 1604-1652.	1642 (1642)	Wing P393; ESTC R21276	49,491	88

but_o a_o slanderous_a consequent_a issue_v out_o of_o his_o malice_n not_o out_o of_o our_o tenet_n for_o if_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o whole_o consist_v in_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n or_o the_o honour_n of_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o external_a work_n do_v there_o be_v no_o more_o necessity_n of_o altar_n than_o table_n or_o that_o either_o altar_n or_o table_n shall_v be_v hold_v so_o essential_o honourable_a to_o the_o sacrament_n and_o this_o may_v be_v hold_v by_o he_o which_o hold_v not_o all_o place_n equal_a and_o indifferent_a for_o divine_a service_n wherefore_o as_o for_o saint_n cyprian_n rule_n eucharistia_n in_fw-la altari_fw-la consecratur_fw-la which_o doctor_n pocklington_n affirm_v to_o be_v undeniable_a we_o say_v it_o must_v stand_v with_o our_o saviour_n example_n who_o do_v administer_v the_o eucharist_n upon_o a_o real_a table_n but_o upon_o a_o imaginary_a altar_n and_o so_o we_o be_v not_o oppose_v to_o it_o but_o say_v doctor_n heylin_n further_o material_a altar_n be_v very_o ancient_a in_o the_o church_n which_o if_o they_o be_v not_o erect_v for_o our_o sacrifice_n certain_o they_o be_v for_o popish_a and_o this_o will_v prove_v popery_n to_o be_v very_o ancient_a i_o answer_v the_o doctor_n have_v not_o prove_v formal_a stone_n altar_n so_o ancient_a but_o if_o he_o have_v he_o have_v not_o prove_v antiquity_n free_a from_o all_o error_n and_o superstition_n but_o we_o can_v easy_o prove_v the_o contrary_a but_o doctor_n heylin_n proceed_v thus_o he_o which_o teach_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n there_o be_v neither_o priest_n sacrifice_n nor_o altar_n proper_o so_o call_v bring_v in_o confusion_n and_o ruin_n into_o the_o church_n take_v away_o all_o external_a worship_n enable_v every_o man_n to_o the_o priestly_a function_n and_o rob_v the_o church_n of_o all_o due_a reverence_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a inference_n that_o i_o can_v sufficient_o honour_v the_o sacrament_n but_o under_o the_o name_n 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that_o neither_o

beside_o among_o the_o jew_n the_o altar_n and_o the_o altar_n instrument_n be_v of_o the_o same_o metal_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n beautify_v and_o with_o the_o same_o solemnity_n consecrate_v and_o therefore_o why_o our_o chalice_n and_o patin_n shall_v not_o much_o rather_o be_v of_o the_o same_o honour_n and_o sanctity_n as_o the_o table_n i_o can_v discern_v for_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o our_o table_n be_v more_o proper_o a_o relative_a instrument_n in_o our_o sacrament_n from_o whence_o it_o receive_v all_o its_o honour_n than_o the_o jewish_a altar_n be_v which_o lend_v honour_n to_o mosaical_a sacrifice_n rather_o than_o borrow_v borrow_v d_o any_o but_o say_v doctor_n laurence_n we_o find_v a_o kind_n of_o worship_n in_o cyrill_n a_o direct_a worship_n in_o eusebius_n emissenus_fw-la theodoret_n augustine_n and_o chrysostome_n we_o have_v {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o in_fw-la ignatius_n and_o adgeniculation_n in_o tertullian_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v first_o we_o ourselves_o do_v grant_v a_o reverential_a honour_n due_a to_o all_o holy_a relative_a instrument_n for_o go●●_n sake_n and_o therefore_o from_o all_o those_o father_n which_o speak_v general_o and_o mean_v no_o other_o but_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o as_o ignatius_n do_v we_o do_v not_o at_o all_o dissent_n second_o where_o particular_a adgeniculation_n be_v require_v or_o bodily_a prostration_n so_o it_o be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o receive_v and_o tender_v for_o the_o sacrament_n sake_n and_o not_o to_o the_o very_a table_n we_o do_v practise_v and_o allow_v it_o and_o so_o we_o agree_v with_o saint_n chrysostom_n that_o we_o ought_v to_o approach_v the_o table_n {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o etc._n etc._n and_o cum_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverimus_fw-la with_o saint_n austin_n three_o at_o any_o time_n as_o well_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o upon_o the_o table_n as_o when_o it_o be_v we_o do_v not_o always_o censure_v of_o such_o a_o decent_a bow_n before_o the_o table_n or_o towards_o the_o table_n as_o the_o jew_n do_v perform_v towards_o the_o mount_n or_o tabernacle_n so_o the_o table_n itself_o be_v not_o the_o object_n or_o hold_v the_o only_a occasion_n of_o our_o worship_n four_o we_o say_v the_o table_n may_v be_v call_v holy_a venerable_a and_o divine_a in_o a_o qualify_a sense_n by_o reason_n of_o its_o relation_n as_o the_o garment_n of_o aaron_n and_o the_o utensil_n of_o the_o temple_n be_v but_o this_o infer_v no_o duty_n of_o worship_n five_o we_o say_v that_o antiquity_n may_v err_v by_o way_n of_o superstition_n towards_o the_o table_n and_o this_o we_o believe_v the_o rather_o because_o in_o some_o place_n they_o do_v ascribe_v inherent_a physical_a virtue_n to_o it_o and_o at_o some_o time_n such_o rigor_n of_o holiness_n that_o prince_n and_o emperor_n may_v not_o be_v permit_v to_o abide_v in_o the_o same_o division_n of_o the_o church_n where_o it_o stand_v if_o tertullian_n say_v that_o bodily_a worship_n be_v due_a to_o the_o altar_n yet_o i●_z he_o prove_v it_o not_o out_o of_o scripture_n we_o answer_v out_o of_o saine_fw-la augustine_n non_fw-la credimus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la six_o it_o be_v not_o prove_v by_o any_o one_o human_a authority_n or_o more_o that_o altar_n worship_n be_v in_o use_n in_o all_o part_n of_o christendom_n at_o one_o time_n or_o in_o any_o one_o part_n at_o all_o time_n much_o less_o be_v any_o thing_n bring_v out_o of_o scripture_n to_o this_o purpose_n seven_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o by_o the_o same_o authority_n we_o find_v presbyteris_fw-la advolvi_fw-la due_a as_o well_o as_o aris_fw-la adgeniculari_fw-la and_o in_o antiquity_n also_o it_o be_v part_n of_o penance_n presbyteris_fw-la and_o aris_fw-la advolvi_fw-la and_o we_o know_v moreover_o that_o not_o only_o excessive_a honour_n but_o also_o all_o the_o revenue_n and_o treasure_n of_o churchman_n be_v first_o raise_v and_o advance_v by_o this_o art_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v wonder_v therefore_o if_o ambitious_a and_o covetous_a prelate_n do_v so_o much_o magnify_v and_o extol_v that_o which_o do_v so_o much_o magnify_v and_o extol_v they_o well_o may_v the_o pope_n still_o in_o all_o consecration_n hallow_v the_o altar_n with_o most_o pomp_n and_o ceremony_n well_o may_v he_o anoint_v that_o which_o be_v the_o first_o cause_n of_o anoint_v he_o well_o may_v he_o sacrifice_v to_o that_o net_n which_o have_v make_v all_o prince_n sacrifice_n to_o he_o well_o may_v he_o claim_v divinity_n and_o sanctity_n for_o that_o which_o have_v promote_v he_o to_o fit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n as_o god_n nay_o above_o all_o that_o be_v call_v god_n when_o the_o horn_n of_o antichrist_n first_o begin_v to_o shoot_v forth_o when_o the_o man_n of_o sin_n and_o the_o son_n of_o perdition_n first_o begin_v to_o be_v reveal_v it_o have_v be_v very_o unadvised_o order_v if_o psalm_n of_o degree_n have_v not_o be_v sing_v at_o the_o ascend_n of_o those_o stair_n whereby_o the_o priest_n do_v mount_v to_o as_o much_o or_o more_o exaltation_n himself_o as_o he_o do_v procure_v to_o the_o holy_a altar_n but_o this_o be_v a_o tender_a point_n and_o if_o i_o speak_v any_o thing_n in_o disparagement_n of_o antiquity_n especial_o the_o great_a bishop_n of_o old_a time_n i_o shall_v be_v forejudge_v as_o a_o man_n ill-affected_a to_o truth_n or_o religion_n and_o all_o which_o i_o shall_v say_v will_v be_v soon_o reject_v and_o easy_o refute_v therefore_o to_o avoid_v unjust_a imputation_n i_o will_v confine_v myself_o to_o the_o mere_a point_n in_o question_n and_o digress_v no_o further_o than_o the_o doctor_n argument_n 〈◊〉_d i_o and_o therein_o also_o my_o chief_a endeavour_n shall_v be_v to_o do_v reason_n to_o prince_n not_o to_o detract_v at_o all_o from_o priest_n two_o thing_n i_o shall_v observe_v first_o that_o this_o tenet_n 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{non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o and_o the_o table_n or_o patin_n be_v but_o insensible_a utensil_n the_o priest_n be_v to_o be_v account_v more_o holy_a and_o honourable_a then_o either_o the_o table_n or_o patin_n if_o so_o than_o what_o become_v of_o prince_n for_o they_o be_v as_o much_o inferior_a to_o the_o altar_n in_o sanctity_n as_o altar_n be_v to_o priest_n they_o be_v not_o holy_a enough_o to_o approach_v the_o rail_v of_o the_o altar_n or_o to_o stay_v in_o the_o chancel_n therefore_o how_o shall_v they_o demean_v themselves_o towards_o priest_n who_o be_v far_o more_o honourable_a and_o venerable_a in_o their_o office_n than_o the_o altar_n be_v in_o their_o employment_n beside_o if_o the_o altar_n be_v honourable_a for_o the_o sacrament_n sake_n and_o the_o sacrament_n only_o or_o chief_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n than_o how_o honourable_a be_v he_o that_o make_v this_o a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o a_o sacrifice_n by_o 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