Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n
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A25196
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The case of ministring at the communion-table when there is no Eucharist stated and discussed, upon occasion of a treatise entitled, Parish churches turn'd into conventicles, &c. : together with some preliminary reflections made upon two papers in answer to that treatise.
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T. A.
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1683
(1683)
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Wing A29; ESTC R21330
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27,156
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