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A67646 A defence of the innocency of the lives, practice, and doctrine of the English preists [sic], Jesuits, and papists relating to the crimes of murther and treason, vnjustly charged on them by E.C. in his narrative wherein are discouered his grosse mistakes, his wilfull falsifications, his shamefull falshoodes, and his groundlesse vniust accusations of the English papists. Warner, John, 1628-1692. 1680 (1680) Wing W908A; ESTC R221952 27,739 33

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that we haue long since rejected these Doctrines if there were euer any such amongst vs and I challenge Protestants to shew any Papist aliue who doth teach them Whereas the Protestants retaine the same vnretracted vncondemned to this moment vpon occasions spread them a new As that seditious maxime of the Wicleffists of which I haue spoken which Oates hath printed in the Dedicatory of his Narratiue to the King himself Whence followes a Third difference that what is found blame worthy in our Predecessors cannot be layd to our charge seing we neither practice nor teach it nay our Prelates haue condemned it as we shall see at the end of this Preface whereas Protestants are answerable for the doctrines of their Fore fathers and all the pernicious consequences flowing from them because they neuer condemned or disowned them but do still approue of them Wherfore seing nothing can be with lustice charged on English Catholicks for whom alone I plead seing their life is so clear from sin their Doctrine from errour that neither can be blamed without a calumny nor our reputation wounded but through the side of Truth Let Oates Prance Euerard Dugdale Smith Ienison Bolron dangerfeild E. C. one for any thing I know like the rest multiply their Narratiues as often as they please stuffe them with calumnies to as great a bulke as their little wit great malice will p●rmit the only effect of those Libels will be to cloud our Reputation from the eyes of the people for a time giue them some bad impressions of vs yet our Innocency will disperse those mists shine so brightly as to be conspicuous to the whole world And the People it self whome their Ministers seduce with these Fables disingenious Arts will giue to vs to the Libellers their due to vs in acquitting vs of the crimes charged vniustly vpon vs to them by finding them guilty of vncharitable lies at the priuate tribunal of each ones Judgment It is vncertaine when we may expect to see an end of these disputes betwixt our Innocency and their malice Nothing put a stop to the false accusations of the Authour of the first greatest Narratiue but his losse of credit by the open discovery of his lies A like losse of credit may happily put astop to the pens of these Libellers And I doubt not but the better part of our nation will be glad to see Truth asserted against Falshood Innocency triumphing ouer Malicious slaunders Of the Authour of this Narratiue I will only lay that if he had not Honesty to speake only the truth he had wit enough to conceale his name that he might preserve his credit notwithstanding all his lies Now because I shall haue occasion to cite in our Defence hereafter some Decrees of Popes to which all Catholiks submit in our vindication I will here giue an extract of such Propositions condemned in them which relate to MURTHER equivocation Out of the Decree of Allexandre VII Anno 1665. 24. Septembris On that day 28. propositions were condemned vnder paine of Excommunication reserued to his Holiness vpon any that should practice teach or hold lawfull any of them or speake of them otherwise then condemning or impugning them Amongst these the seventeenth is as follows 17. Est licitum Religioso vel Clerico Calumniatorem grauia crimina de se vel de suâ Religione spargere minantem occidere quando alius modus defendendi non suppetit vti suppetere non videtur si calumniator sit paratus vel ipsi Religioso vel ejus Religioni publicè coram grauistimis viris praedicta impingere nisi occidatur 18. Licet interficere falsum Accusatorem falsos testes ac etiam judicem à quo iniqua ●ertò imminet sententia si alia viâ non potest Innocens damnum euitare In English thus 17. Jt is lawfull for a Religious man or Clergy man to to kill a Calumniator who threatens to accuse him or his order of some greiuous crimes in case there be no other meanes to defend himself there seemes to be no other meanes when the Sycophant is ready to accuse him before Persons of quality if he be not killed out of hand 18. Jt is lawfull to kill a false Accuser false witnesses euen the Judge by whome certainly the Accused shall shortly be condemned if the Jnnocent can by no other meanes avoyde the dammage Out of the Decree of JNNOCENT XI publisht 2. March 1679. stilo no. On that day Sixty fiue Propositions were condemned in alike manner forbidden vnder paine of Excommunication Here I giue those which I shall cite hereafter 26. Si quis vel solus vel coram alijs siue interrogatus siue propriâ sponte siue recreationis causâ siue quocunque alio fine juret se non fecisse aliquid quod reuerâ fecit intelligendo intra se aliquid aliud quod non fecit vel aliam diem ab eâ in quâ fecit vel quodvis aliud additum verum reuerâ non mentitur nec est periurus 27. Causa justa vtendi his amphibologijs est quoties id necessarium aut vtile est ad salutem corporis honorem res familitares tuendas vel ad quemlibet alium virtutis actum ita vt veritatis occultatio censeatur tunc expediens studiosa 30. Fas est viro honorato occidere invasorem qui nititur calumniam inferre si aliter haec ignominia vitari nequit jd m quoque direndum si quis impingat alapam vel fuste percutiat post impactam alapam vel ictum fustis fugiat 31. Regulariter occidere possum furem pro conservatione vnius aurei Jn English thus 26. Jf any man either alone or in presence of others either vpon examination or of this own accord or for diuertissement or for any other intent sweares he did not do what he really did imagining he did some other thing or some other day then he did it on or any other truth that man doth neither lye nor is periured 27. A iust cause to vse Equivocation is when it is necessary or vsefull to preserve our Health our Honour or our goods or for any other Act of vertu soe that when these occurre it may be thought expedient laudable to conceale the Truth 30. Jt is lawfull for a man of Honour to kill an aggressor who endeauours to slaunder him if he cannot some other way auoyde the disgrace The same is to be sayd if the aggressor giue him a box oth'eart or cudgel him having done so runs away 31. I may ordinarily kill a man to presence the value of a crowne These propositions concerning Equiuocation Murther are in alike manner condemned the greatest Ecclesiasticall Censure annext to those who teach practice or defend any one of them as probable And there is no English Catholick Jesuit or other who doth not submit to this Decree As all English