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A67323 Infants baptism from heaven, of divine institution Being a brief yet satisfactory answer to some objections made by Hercules Collins, in his book entituled, Believers baptism from heaven, infants baptism from earth, &c. against certain truths proved in a book entituled, Baptism anatomized. Propounded in five queries, by Tho. Wall. Viz. 1. What water-baptism is? 2. What is the end for which it was instituted? 3. What giveth right to it? 4. Who are the true administrators of it? 5. Whether it be lawful for a man to baptise himself? Wherein the right that the infants of believers have to water-baptism is vindicated: the duty of believing parents in that matter asserted: and that by the contrary tenet and practice, they ought themselved to be excluded from the Lords-Supper, is plainly and fully proved. And wherein is also proved, that the covenant which God made with Abraham, Gen. 17. and with Israel, Exod. 19. and Deut. 29. are the covenant of grace in Christ, and not part of the covenant of works made with Adam before his fall. Wall, Thomas. 1692 (1692) Wing W484; ESTC R219349 20,257 43

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how this Man hath fought with his own shadow H. Collins's carnal reason being laid down he hath granted the Truth I contend for from Rom. ch 5. that as Sin entred into the World by the Sin of the first Adam Rom. 5. 12. into Families even so to all Believers and their Infants according to Gods revealed Will their Sin is pardoned in the second Adam Christ by Families Rom. 5. 18 19. and so as Christians we are to judge of them joyntly redeemed with their Parents until either Fathers or Mothers or their Children when grown up do prove themselves by their evil Fruits to be otherwise than of the Election as the Apostle observeth in his Exhortation to the Gospel-Churches from the Church in Adam's Family that so long as they abide in the Belief of the Promise in Christ the Seed of the Woman their Saviour to wit if they continue in this Faith and Charity and Holiness with Sobriety they both Parents and Children shall be saved as did Adam and Eve and their Children Abel and Seth Noah and his Children Shem and Japhet Abraham and his Child Isaac and Isaac and his Child Jacob and Jacob and his Children and so many the like in other Families in Scripture as God promised in his Gospel Gen. 12. 3. that in Christ Families should be Blessed not only in former days but also in the latter days now under the Gospel confirmed by Christs Blood At that time saith the Lord will I be the God of all the Families of Israel whether Believing Jews or Gentiles with their Children compare Jer. 31. 1. with the former 30. ch who in Gal. 6. 16. are called the Israel of God And whereas H. Collins saith I falsly assert viz. That the English Anabaptists receive their Baptism from one John Smith they should have shewed and proved the contrary and that they receive their Baptism from him I shewed in a small Treatise long ago on that Subject Printed 1669. P. 45. in which I also inserted what I heard that one Mr. Spilsbury should go to Holland to be Baptised of this Smith and so brought it into England From which I then inferred as I do now if you can prove the Beginning or Receiving your Baptism from no better or lawfuller an Administrator than for a Man to Baptise himself or from one that in his own Judgment was not Baptised nor a Member of a true Church for him I say to begin to Baptise and then the Party he Baptised to Baptise the Person that Baptised him I say is not from Heaven but contrary to all Scripture and true gathered Consequence from the same in their own Judgment for as Water Baptism is confessed by the Anabaptists to be a part of Gods Worship see Mr. Keach's Book Gold Refin'd P. 147. in these words Water-Baptism is a part of Instituted Worship and Service of God so that whatsoever is done in Worship and Service of God without an express word drop'd from Christ or his Apostles is Will-worship Therefore by their own Grant the way they came by their Baptism is Will-worship and so Idolatrous until they can prove it lawful for a Man to Baptise himself or that an unbaptised Person should Baptise another and then that Person so Baptised should Baptise him from whom he received his Baptism but such a Practice is no more lawful than for Nadab and Abihu to offer Incense with other Fire than the Fire from Gods Altar and so is no better than Rome's Trumpery that came out of the Smoak of the Bottomless Pit and also for any to confine the Word Baptise to signifie only to Dip opposeth the Apostles Doctrin in 1 Cor. 10. 1. but agreeth with the Doctrin and Practice of Rome as Bellarmine affirmeth de Imag. 1. 2. ch 29. viz. That every one they Baptise they Dip three times in Water in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost Now though Gods Judgments are not so frequently inflicted on Mens Bodies for breach of Gods order as of old yet God gives them over that presume above what is written to strong Delusions to believe a Lye because they received not the love of the Truth that they might be saved but had pleasure in Unrighteousness 2 Thess 2. 11 12. And will not the prudent Reader duely weigh these things And whereas he saith If I will give some of them a meeting they will prove they received not their Baptism from John Smith I answer the Matter is now publick but when I desired to debate this Point at a private Conference in Hounsditch it was refused by them for when I asked Mr. Kiffin being informed that he had been a Member of the People called the Ancient Separation falsly called Brownists and had taught among them and then was for Baptism in Infancy I say for the reason aforesaid I asked him in the presence of some Ministers there and many People this question Seeing he had renounced his Baptism received in Infancy that he would be pleased to prove by the word of God how he orderly came by a better The Gentleman very civilly said Seeing I asked a reason of his Faith he was bound to give it accordingly he spoke so long as he pleased and in the conclusion of his words concerning the Administration of Water-Baptism by whom came to Matt. 28. Go teach all Nations Baptising them from which he inferred that the Apostles did not Baptise as Apostles but as common-gifted Disciples I asked him if he had ended his Speech He said yea I was going to give my answer in proving that the Commission in Matt. 28. 20. was given to Men in Office and to no other and before I could say almost a word up started Mr. Keach being present and said They came not to hear me So that Mr. Kiffin and he with others went immediately out of the Room and refused to hear my Answer And seeing how I was served I left the Five Queries in Writing now in Baptism Anatomized printed in my Book with one in the House desiring that they might be given to Mr. Keach and so they were I being gone soon after I came home Mr. Keach sent one to me with a Book Entituled Gold Refined and the Messenger said it was an Answer to the Five Queries and now having begun this Work so publick in Print and proved in Baptism Anatomized P. 90 to 106. that it is contrary to Gods Word for any out of Office to Baptise it 's too late to talk of a Dispute by word of Mouth especially considering how uncivilly I was served by them before and the matter is now become publick that all may judge for themselves what is Truth I shall in the way I have begun God helping me maintain the Interest of Christ's Honour not only in his Holy orderly Performance of his Ordinances but in the Redemption of the Babes of his Kingdom who when he came into the World according to the first Gospel-promise he was
saith he to try our Wits to prove Infants Baptism although by true grounded Reasons from God's Word we have proved it without the help of Man's Natural Wit which all your Wits cannot disprove Again you say I quarrel because you do not Baptise always on the Lord's day I tell you affirm that which you Practise not Answer I set down in my Book your own words Page 85. 87. from your Narrative P. 17. which are these That although the holy Apostles and others that were Preachers took their opportunities to preach the Word on the Jewish Sabbath day and other days of the Week when they had convenient opportunities afforded them yet we have say you no Example of the Churches then Assembling together to celebrate all the Ordinances of our Lord Jesus peculiar to them but on the first day of the Week Reader mark that which manifest practice of theirs say you is evidently as plain a demonstration of its being a day set apart for Religious Worship by the Will and Command of our Lord Jesus as if it had been exprest in the plainest words Wherein you grant that the Example of the Churches and the manifest Practice of theirs in the purest of Times is evidently a plain demonstration that the Lord's day is the time of Worship to administer God's Ordinances and that it is the Will and Command of our Lord Jesus so to do Then why blame you me for telling you that you do not administer the Sealing Ordinances on that day only which Christ hath Ordained therefore it is your evil in condemning your self by your Practice seeing the first Church-meeting was on the Lord's day Acts 2. when they did Baptise and break Bread and Paul stayed at Troas several days Acts 20. 6 7 until the first day came about to perform the Ordinances of Worship even in the Sealing Ordinances and the Example of the Churches all being commanded to keep that day holy in the practise of God's Ordinances is therefore not to be neglected So then you have well said but practice not the Example of extraordinary Officers by you to be granted is not the Church's Pattern to Baptise any day but the Example of the Primitive Churches in the purest of Times is for all Churches to follow as they were commanded by the Apostles Now then when else but on the first day of the Week were the Churches to perform God's Ordinances as the Will and command of our Lord Jesus 2ly As you in your Narrative have asserted and yet you blame me for telling of you you plead for that you practise not you say in P. 69. I insist upon the Order of words Mat. 3. I Baptise to Repentance In answer you say see your Book Pag. 54 55 56. Your answer there is if you were only Sprinkled in Infancy you were never yet Baptised seeing your answer is not to the disproving of what I have laid down I refer the Reader to my Book because in in your answer you run away from the Matter and tell us of such as were Baptised that Repentence was required of we grant that such as never were Baptised in the Name of Christ whether Men or Women who had actually sinned of such God requireth actual Repentance this is granted by me and proved at large in my Book Pag. 70 to 72 yet no way hindereth the Infants of such to be Baptised that are Sinners not by their own act but by Imputation and whereas you say if I were only Sprinkled in Infancy I was never Baptised I have refuted this in my Preface third Leaf in these words shewing as in the Lord's Supper it is not the quantity of Bread and Wine more or less but the right apprehension of it and sincere Affection to the thing signified so it is not the quantity of Water cast on the passive Subject Baptised with Water which is but one by the visible Sign of Washing away of Sin in the Blood of Christ which in the Spiritual Baptism is likewise signified by Sprinkling with the Blood of Christ namely with the Imputation of the benefit of Christ's Death to Sinners whether actual or imputative all visibly in the Covenant of the Gospel H. Collins further saith That is a false Argument so largely insisted upon in my Book Pag. 44. If Persons have a right to Remission of Sins they have a right to the Sign Baptism this Argument I have answered fully in Baptism Anatomized in Pag. 36 37. yet I find no answer by him to this matter but it is H. Collins way to object against what I lay down and make no answer to that I have asserted in my Book that is Infants are born Sinners and cannot be Saved but by Christ's pardoning their Sin and all that have the Testimony from God's Word that their Sins are pardoned have a right to the Sign of Remission Water-Baptism again Whereas H. Collins opposeth what I say in Page 43. from Acts 15. 10. that Infants are Disciples Answer The Jews which believed were pressing that the Gentiles should keep the Law of Moses and be Circumcised which Law required not only the Father but also the Male Children to be Circumcised for of old when a Proselite Gentile was joined to the Church of Israel he was to Circumcise all his Males see Exod. 12. ch even so in Acts 15. those who were required to be Circumcised by the Jews was the same the Law required before namely the Father and his Male Children therefore the answer of the Apostle was accordingly why tempt ye God to put a Yoke upon the Neck of the Disciples that is on the Fathers and the Children so that it is clear that in Acts 15. here Children with their Parents are called Disciples which is Scholars therefore the Law of God bound the Parents to bring their Children with them to hear the Law before they had understanding Deut. 31. 11 12 13. after they were Circumcised as we are now commanded to teach our Children after Baptised proved in my Book As touching a Womans partaking of the Lords Supper you shew no other command than is consirmed by Consequence which I never denied but the Evil lyeth at your door seeing you allow a Consequence in one thing and not in another and therefore partial for although the Woman be included in the Man and Woman is said to believe yet she must have actual Faith before she be fitly qualified to take and eat at the Lords Table yet you cannot see how the Promise of God includeth the Children in Infancy to the Believing Parents to have the Sign of Remission of their Sins set on them although this Truth shineth in the Scripture for God saith I will be a God to thee and to thy Seed by reason the Seed in Infancy are Sinners by Imputation but that it is not in that Sense I will be a God to thee and to thy Wife for both are actual Sinners and both must actually believe and Blessed is the People whose God