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A46994 A vindication of the Surey demoniack as no impostor, or, A reply to a certain pamphlet publish'd by Mr. Zach. Taylor, called, The Surey impostor with a further clearing and confirming of the truth as to Richard Dugdale's case and cure / by T.J. ... ; to which is annexed a brief narrative of the Surey demoniack, drawn up by the same author ... Jollie, Thomas, 1629-1703. 1698 (1698) Wing J889; ESTC R10650 80,797 80

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vero est quod movet atque ducit dicitque insuper quae non noverit occupatus futura nonnunquam praedicit quo inquam pacto dicemus hac esse erraticas materiae motiones Let Mr. T. also at present take notice of what may be obvious to any one in this particular case in reference to what Mr. T. with his Testimonies say thereupon Tho the case be otherwise solved yet let us say something as to what Mr. T. alledgeth from the Physitians and would thence prove D's Fits to be an Epilepsy Convulstion or the like As to Dr. Willis the Instances brought out of him all together do not near reach this case Besides the Doctor doth not deny Possession in some of them Neither doth he according to Mr. T. tell us the means of their Cure As to Dr. Radcliffs Letter to Mr. T. upon this occasion the Doctor is not very ingenuous in saying that the Non-conformists do engross any thing to themselves in this case For if he do but peruse Mr. Burton's Collections under this Head he may have his answer And as to our averring that the Devil sometimes tells the truth the Doctor if he be well acquainted with the Scripture of Truth may easily find several Instances both in the Gospels and in the Acts to shew that the Devil sometimes speaks great Truths tho he be forced to it and besure speaks them for no good end The truth is many in this Age are more Atheistical than the Devil himself as wicked as he is for he believes a God to make him tremble he professeth Christ in his desperate way he makes use of Scripture Words and Truths to pervert them As to Dr. R's Instance out of Galen concerning the fore knowledg of his Fit it 's nothing to the purpose for D's fore-telling was in the fore-going Fit and not when the present Fit was coming on him this latter is easy enough in several ordinary natural Distempers But why doth he not bring us one Instance in that case of a Person always in so many Fits exactly fore-telling the time of the following Fit and still hitting his Fit being greater or lesser His telling and fore-telling other things also the Doctor doth wholly wave this is not fair dealing His Testimony out of Leiselius doth not come up to this case Had the Doctor haa the Surey Informations by him and consulted them he might have seen it to be as I say His account as to D's Gravity and Levity in the same Fit seems rather ridiculous for both were in the same dead Fit and he continued in the said Fit a considerable time after the Witnesses had several times tried his weight This many Persons do testify upon Oath and others inform to the said purpose I think we may challenge all the Doctors in England to bring us a single Instance out of any approved Author any such under a meer natural Disease to parallel the case Pag. That Passage of Satan's pushing D on to such Words and Dees c. refers to him then as being out of his Fit so I find it to be in those Minutes which I took all along not to his Fits wherein he was so long dumb as I suppose And I may well suppose it tho Mr. T. would so disingeniously without any Proof insinuate the contrary Pag. 34 I am not able to remember particulars but must refer to my Memorials in my Diary upon that occasion where are all and only these Words about that called the Lord's Day cry viz The next meeting on this occasion will be on the 16th Instant Tho the Youth knew nothing of it upon the Lord's Day before nor any of the Family concerning this Meeting Yet in a Fit on the said Lord's Day he foretold of this day and told of the number of the Ministers viz. Five when as none of the Ministers themselves knew it would be so then none else was likely to know what can the most critical Wit and most captious Spirit make of this Pag. 36 The Family 's being so impoverisht as to sell two head of Cattle was before we had any thing to do with them as to this affair or any other ways it was by the charge whilst Dugdale was with Mr. Crabtree Our eating and drinking with them upon their importunity when the exercise was over is far from devouring Widdow's Houses as Mr. T. would suggest especially if that be true which Robert Clark testifies viz. That he had it from William Sellars that they had got above 20 l. by us And if it be true as their Neighbours say that the Family hath lived in a better condition ever since tho they have had but little from us since We did not so eat with them as to devour them nor so relieve them as to bribe them His Prediction as to England paying the Piper as he phrased it notwithstanding its present Security whilst Ireland was in such Misery is much verisied by sad Experience and I think few did then think that the War would continue so long and that the charge of it would have been so great I mention this without any murmuring thereat Pag. 37 I must confess that I do pen down all the Heads of my Sermons and the most of the Proofs to the several particulars before hand ordinarily so that the Devil might discover the same to D. tho Mr. T. judgeth very hardly that therefore we have our Sermons from the Devil The Lord judg betwixt us whether we have our Sermons from the good Spirit according to the written word in a way of Prayer or else from the evil one Unless Mr. T. be of a better Spirit than appears in his Writing and Preaching against us on this occasion His ordinary Readers and Hearers will say he speaks from his own Spirit at best which is bad enough Pag. 38 Why doth he manifest more virulence and violence against us than against the Papists What Combination hath Mr. T. proved as he hopes I dare not so much as think that he hath so little Charity for us as to think that we combined with them upon any ill design of cheating tho I confess some in their Passion have been too censorious that way But the Reverend Mr. W. was pleased in his discourse with me to clear Mr. C. himself from ill designing in this matter and some of his People have testified under their hand their sense of the sincerity of my Endeavours therein Pag. I will not foul my Paper and offend my Reader with those scurrilous and ridiculous Passages in this Page O the Eructations of an exulcerated Heart How desperately wicked is the Heart of Man Pag. 41 As to the Marginal Notes upon the Affidavits I must mind the Reader that the Witnesses Testimony upon their Oath must needs carry the cause Besides I suppose there will be nothing found in the Informations at Darwin that interfereth with the Affidavits at Holcomb I cannot but observe how little notice Mr. T. take of
〈…〉 for this I must refer the Reader to what is exprest and expla … … fore concerning the Indications of Evangelick Possessio● 〈…〉 these Where I do modestly declare my own and I think others Sentiments also But Mr. T. is very unfaithful in inserting 〈◊〉 words tho in a Parenthesis viz. and consequemly dispessessed by them as if they were my words indeed it 's the consequence that is so hateful to him which makes him so furiously to militate against 〈◊〉 Premisses But why doth not Mr. T. descend to Particulars and Instanc● 〈◊〉 the Indications of a Possession and shew us wherein the Indication in D. did come short of any or many in the Evangelick History Still remember how we reserve the due Honour to the Cures and Dispossessions as done by the immediate Power of Christ or in his Name in a miraculous manner such effects immediately to follow tho all is done by his Marvellous Power whether it be without Means or with them whether the means be more ordinary or extraordinary whether the Effect be sooner or later yet are not at all Miraculous Had not some of Mr. T 's Brethren been wiser than he I suppose he would have denied all Possessions at least in latter Ages from the Press as he had done from the Pulpit Seeing Mr. T. would make the World to believe that we seek vain-Glory and worldly Interest by the account of our many certified places for Meeting and so our being Pluralists I must humbly say the Truth and shame the Devil as they say had he any Shame I am concerned and constrained to vindicate the Truth and my self for I think I and my People have more certified Places than any one Minister and People in the County being so scatter'd in the Country as we are So it may be Mr. T. may point at me more than others Should I tell how long I have laboured among this People how much I have suffered for them how little this poor People have been able to do for me what offers I have had as to worldly advantages Mr. T. would charge me with vain-glory tho he clear me from seeking my worldly Profit But it 's enough to me that God knows all tho these things are pretty well known in the World and I do not desire to make them more publick than they are it is a Mortification to me to speak of them more than needs Nor would it be a Pleasure to Mr. T. unless to droll upon them It 's true we have several Places besides my Chappel certified yet some of them are only for our more private Days of Prayer but they all belong to the same People disposed as aforesaid and the most of what I have from them all is but about 12 l. per An. out of which I maintain an Assistant also to supply on the one hand when I am at a more remore distance on the other Yet do we ordinarily all meet at our Chappel Now let Mr. T. himself judg where are the Pluralities and Worldly Interests Do I not rather spend what I have and am I not almost spent in serving a Poor yet willing People these 48 Years Tho I confess I am now through Age and Bodily Infirmity confined about home Let these Hints suffice in these Streights Mr. T. reduceth us into If we vindicate our selves he 'll have us to be vain-glorious if we do not we must be Pluralists like to themselves So that on our part it proves to be only a Plurality of Labours in Labours more abundant As to the Hearers not taking the Oaths to the Government and subscribing the Declaration against Popery tho Mr. T. will charge it upon their Old Spirit of Contempt of Authority Yet let him know that the Government hath as hearty Subjection and as fervent Prayers from Dissenters as from the Conformists who have all the Dignities and Benifices So that the Dissenters not doing as aforesaid is not out of the least unwillingness to do it but because that they judged that the Magistrate should call them to it if they saw occasion Pag. 68 As to what Mr. T. doth most unworthily and immoderately insinuate concerning us who some of us it may be might for our Age be his Grand-Fathers I do most solemnly protest for my self and I hope for my Brethren also that it 's altogether false that we had lest off the case tho we had left off meeting at Surey for the reason aforesaid that the deferring of the publishing of the Narrative was with any Reference to the said Gentlemen's death we also do utterly deny And as to the forgetting of several Passages by reason of the distance of time the same may be said on our part also That there were several with R. D. when those words were exprest and such things happen'd on the 24th of M. 89. we assirm tho none of the Ministers were present For John Walmsly was present and deposeth as to the Passages and several others present testify to the same purpose That what we did in this affair was out of the Pride of our Hearts and in affectation to be thought Miracle-Mongers and such as cast out Devils the Searcher of Hearts knows it to be otherwise and that we lay little stress on these things Our rejoicing is this that we hope our Names are written in Heaven and that our Record is on high Yet we may say that the Lord hath done greater works than casting out Devils out of Mens Bodies by his faithful Servants Particularly the effectual Call and saving Change of Souls which in Scripture Sense is raising the spiritually dead opening the Eyes of such as are born spiritually blind yea a new creation out of nothing and worse than nothing This Doctrine may not go well down with those who have no Experience of it and so make light of so great a work Yet tho we are most Unjustly and Uncharitably charged by Mr. T. as despairing of the Success and as deserting the Work However our Weakness is ingenuously acknowledged in the Narrative which is no sign of vain-Glory Tho our acknowledged Weakness is invidiously objected against us Yea I will say further tho Mr. T 's Spirit may be heightened and others hardened thereby That much Weakness did appear among us not only in the Management of so great a Work and after as to our non-acknowledgment of the Success as we ought But as to some few things published in the Narrative and as to the manner of the Publication thereof if it was through inadvertency of any of us Yet whilst we deny our selves we dare not deny the Grace of God in pittying us and pardoning in helping and blessing us Yea we must own the Lord's Goodness in his helping of us under and blessing to us Mr. T 's evil dealing with us much is to be learned and got by others Envy and Enmity Blessed be God I may say tho no thanks to Mr. T. Pag. 69 That some might suspect Witchcraft in
stand Joseph Hargreaves testifies the first and third of Nathaniel Waddington Richard Crichly under his hand testifies concerning Richard Dugdale's Strength Several Testimonials about the said Richard Dugdale's Case do follow WE whose Names are Subscribed being Ministers of the Gospel having read or heard the Affidavits and Declarations taken before the Right Honourable Hugh Lord Willonghby and Ralph Egerton Esq two of his Majesties Justices of the Peace for the County Palatine of Lancaster concerning one Richard Dugdale of Surey in the Parish of Wholley do verily believe the truth of the same and that the strange Fits of the said Dugdale were by a Diabolical Power Given when we met at Blackburn in Lancashire on August the 6th 1695. Thomas Crompton Peter Aspinwall John Crompton John Parr Samuel Angier Nathaniel Haywood Samuel Eaton Nathaniel Scholes I Do hereby testify as many more will if ther be occasion from my own observation as an Eye and Ear-Witness at the Meetings concerning Richard Dugdale That I do verily believe he was then under a Diabolical Possession or Obsession I do also testify that he is now fully diliver'd from this Supernatural Malady and that no other probable Means of his said Deliverance may be assigned but the Word of God and Prayer with Fasting which Spiritual Means were made use of by several Ministers with great Faithfulness and Diligence for a considerable time together Witness my Hand this 10th of June 1695. At Hely in Lancashire Robert Whitaker Medicus Concerning Richard Dugdale's Certificate which he voluntarily subscribed before Jame Gregson and my silf with others Which is mentioned in the last Page of the Surey Demoniack there is some mistake tho not much material For the words in the original are follows July the 10th 1695. I Richard Dugdale Son of Thomas Dugdale of Surey near Whalley in Lancashire Gard'ner do certisy all to whom this may come That my former strange Fits were not any of them by any Cheat or any Art of Man that I konw of but as I do verily believe were caused by the Devil From whom and from my terrible Fits I do verily believe my Body was cieared through the Ministers I Prayers at or a out Lady-day 1690. After which I never had any more such Fits whereupon I took some Physick for the clearing of my Body from any ill Humours it might have gotten by my said sad Fits Witness my Hand the Day and Year abovesaid Richard Dugdale In presence of us James Gregson his 1 Mark Thomas Jolly WE whose Names are Subscribed were present at many of the with in mentioned Meetings concerning Richard Dugdale so were Eye and Ear-Witnesses to many of the things within mentioned and do verily believe the rest not doubtng but that the said Dugdale's Assliction was through Possession or Obscession by Combination or by some secret Judgment of God from which he was delivered as we are fully perswaded by the Gospel-Means within mentioned William Cross John Duerden Lan. Walmsly John Baxon John Bayley Christopher Duckworth Leonard Barley Juhn Marsh James Whitaker William Waddington George Cockshout Samuel Hey Charles Riley James Hindle Nehemiah Hindle Richard Jackson William Barton Christ Tattersi●l Richard Sudal Nich. Grimshaw Upon occasion of Mr. Taylor 's reflecting on the Reverend Mr. Pendlebury deceased Alexander Haworth gives in the following Certificate I Alexander Haworth of Top-Royl in Bury Parish in Lancashire Yeoman going with the Reverend Mr. Pendlebury to see Richard Dugdaie under his strange Fits at the first time upon mine asking of him his opinion of the said Dugdale's Fits he answered that he question'd whether the said D. might not be acted by some bodily Distemper in the said Fits But when the said Mr. Pendlebury had been with the said D. a second time I asked him his opinion again in that Case and then he had alter'd his perswasion concerning D. having seen such things in him as he judged more than natural and he gave such Reasons for it as alter'd my Judgment as well as his Dec. 25. 1697. Alexander Haworth Concerning the Expressions in Prayer which Mr. T. falsly chargeth me with from an Anonymous Author I have diligently enquired of those who were most constant hearers upon the occasion of the Surey Demoniack and they remember not that I ever used the Expressions charg'd upon me or any to that purpose which mine Accuser would wrest them unto Only one Person viz. Nathanie Waddington doth well remember some Words I once used in Prayer on the said occasion and are as follows How if thou should'st susser Satan to enter into such Persons as do not believe this young Man is possest Which Words he understood not to be at all by way of Imprecation but by way of Supposition if God in Judgment should suffer such a thing for their Infidelity as to the Case and their Uncharitableness as to the Party How sad this would be Nathaniel Waddington Here follow the further Informations as to the Case of the said Richard Dugdale taken before the Right Honourable Hugh Lord Willoughby and William Hulme Esq two of his Maiesty's Justices of the Peace and Quorum for the County Palatin of Lancaster Taken at the House of Richard Sharples of Blakhurn in the County asoresaid the 15th 16th and 17th of September 1697. Where the Informants were examin'd by the said Justices upon occasion of several Passages in a Book called the Surey-Impostor The Confession of Richard Dugdale of Whalley in the County of Lancashire Gardner taken before the Right Honourable Hugh Lord Willoughby and William Hulme Esq two of His Majesly's Justices of the Peace and Quorum for the said County taken at the House of Richard Sharples of Blackburn in the County aforesaid the 15th day of September Anno Domini 1697. IMprimis The said Richard Dugdale answers and says that he was in Health of Body and Mind at the Age of Eighteen Years or thereabours About the Nin●eenth Year Commonly called West-by he says he was a hired Servant with Thomas Lister of Arnald's-bigging in the County of York Esq and begged leave of his said Master to go to a Rush-bearing to Whalley and being in Drink fell out at Whalley with a Man and fought about dancing that Night He says afterwards he went to his Farthers House The day afterwards he went from his Fathers House to Arnald's bigging and on the Road being troubled in Mind he thought that he saw several Apparitions but could not tell the resemblance thereof The day afterwards he says he went to make Hay and found himself clogged with some heaviness that he could not work or stoop from thence he weut to a Well about a Fields breadth from the Hall aforesaid and saw a Gallon or Pale standing at the Well and that he laid himself down to drink at the Well and as he was drinking there came up to him a Neighbour-woman of good Repute and advised him not to drink so much Water but rather go up to the said Hall and