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A32203 Copies of two papers written by the late King Charles II together with a copy of a paper written by the late Duchess of York. Charles II, King of England, 1630-1685.; York, Anne Hyde, Duchess of, 1637-1671.; James II, King of England, 1633-1701. 1686 (1686) Wing C2944; ESTC R14040 4,894 16

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far-fetch'd Interpretations at the same time that they deny plain and positive Words which is so great a Disingenuity that 't is not almost to be thought that they can believe themselves Is there any other Foundation of the Protestant Church but that if the Civil Magistrate please he may call such of the Clergy as he thinks fit for his turn at that time and turn the Church either to Presbytery Independency or indeed what he pleases This was the way of our pretended Reformation here in England and by the same Rule and Authority it may be altered into as many more Shapes and Forms as there are Fancies in Mens Heads This is a true Copy of a Paper written by the late King my Brother in His own Hand which I found in his Closet JAMES R. IT is so reasonable to expect that a Person always Bred up in the Church of England and as well Instructed in the Doctrine of it as the best Divines and her Capacity could make her should be liable to many Censures for leaving That and making her self a Member of the Roman-Catholick Church to which I confess I was one of the greatest Enemies it ever had That I choose rather to endeavour to satisfie my Friends by reading this Paper than to have the trouble to answer all the Questions that may daily be asked me And First I do protest in the Presence of Almighty God That no Person Man or Woman Directly nor Indirectly ever said any thing to me since I came into England or us'd the least Endeavour to make me change my Religion It is a Blessing I wholly owe to Almighty God and I hope the hearing of a Prayer I daily made him ever since I was in France and Flanders Where seeing much of the Devotion of the Catholicks tho' I had very little my self I made it my continual Request to Almighty God That if I were not I might before I died be in the true Religion I did not in the least doubt but that I was so and never had any manner of Scruple till November last When reading a Book call'd The History of the Reformation by Doctor Heylyn which I had heard very much commended and had been told if ever I had any Doubt in my Religion that would settle me Instead of which I found it the Description of the horridest Sacriledges in the World and could find no Reason why we left the Church but for Three the most Abominable ones that were ever heard of amongst Christians First Henry the Eighth renounces the Pope's Authority because he would not give him leave to part with his Wife and Marry another in her life-time Secondly Edward the Sixth was a Child and govern'd by his Uncle who made his Estate out of the Church-Lands And then Queen Elizabeth who being no Lawful Heiress to the Crown could have no way to keep it but by renouncing a Church that could never suffer so Unlawful a thing to be done by one of Her Children I confess I cannot think the Holy Ghost could ever be in such Counsels And it is very strange that if the Bishops had no Design but as they say the restoring us to the Doctrine of the Primitive Church they should never think upon it till Henry the Eighth made the Breach upon so Unlawful a Pretence These Scruples being rais'd I begun to consider of the Difference between the Catholicks and Us and Examin'd them as well as I could by the Holy Scripture which tho' I do not pretend to be able to understand yet there are some things I found so easie that I cannot but wonder I had been so long without finding them out As the Real Presence in the Blessed Sacrament the Infallibility of the Church Confession and Praying for the Dead After this Sheldon A. B. of Cant. Blandford B. of Worcest I spoke severally to Two of the best Bishops we have in England who both told me there were many things in the Roman Church which it were very much to be wish'd we had kept As Confession which was no doubt Commanded by God That Praying for the Dead was one of the Ancient things in Christianity That for their parts they did it daily tho' they would not own it And afterwards pressing one of them very much upon the other Points he told me Blandford B. of Worcest That if he had been bred a Catholick he would not change his Religion but that being of another Church wherein he was sure were all things necessary to Salvation he thought it very ill to give that Scandal as to leave that Church wherein he had receiv'd his Baptism All these Discourses did but add more to the Desire I had to be a Catholick and gave me the most terrible Agonies in the world within my self For all this fearing to be rash in a Matter of that Weight I did all I could to satisfie my self made it my daily Prayer to God to settle me in the Right and so went on Christmas-day to receive in the King's Chappel after which I was more troubled than ever and could never be in quiet till I had told my Desire to a Catholick who brought a Priest to me and that was the First I ever did Converse with upon my Word The more I spoke to him the more I was Confirm'd in my Design and as it is impossible for me to doubt of the Words of our Blessed Saviour who says the Holy Sacrament is His Body and Blood so I cannot believe that He who is the Author of all Truth and who has promis'd to be with his Church to the End of the World would permit them to give that Holy Mystery to the Laity but in one Kind if it were not Lawful so to do I am not able or if I were would I enter into Disputes with any Body I only in short say this for the changing of my Religion which I take God to Witness I would never have done if I had thought it possible to Save my Soul otherwise I think I need not say it is any Interest in this World leads me to it it will be plain enough to every body that I must lose all the Friends and Credit I have here by it and have very well weighed which I could best part with my share in this World or the next I thank God I found no difficulty in the Choice My only Prayer is That the poor Catholicks of this Nation may not suffer for my being of their Religion That God would but give me Patience to bear them and then send me any Afflictions in this World so I may enjoy a Blessed Eternity hereafter St. James's Aug. 20. 1670. FINIS
COPIES Of Two PAPERS Written by the Late King Charles II. TOGETHER With a Copy of a Paper written by the late Duchess of York Published by His Majesties Command J 2 R DIEV ET MON D●●●T HONI ●OIT QVI MAL Y PENSE LONDON Printed by H. Hills Printer to the King 's Most Excellent Majesty for His Houshold and Chappel 1686. The First Paper THE Discourse we had the other Day I hope satisfied you in the main that Christ can have but one Church here upon Earth and I believe that it is as visible as that the Scripture is in Print That none can be that Church but that which is call'd the Roman-Catholick Church I think you need not trouble your self with entring into that Ocean of particular Disputes when the main and in truth the only Question is Where that Church is which we profess to believe in the two Creeds We declare there to believe One Catholick and Apostolick Church and it is not left to every phantastical Man's Head to believe as he pleases but to the Church to whom Christ left the Power upon Earth to Govern us in Matters of Faith who made these Creeds for our Directions It were a very irrational thing to make Laws for a Country and leave it to the Inhabitants to be the Interpreters and Judges of those Laws For then every Man will be his own Judge and by consequence no such thing as either Right or Wrong Can we therefore suppose that God Almighty would leave us at those Uncertainties as to give us a Rule to go by and leave every Man to be his own Judge I do ask any ingenuous Man Whether it be not the same thing to follow our own Phancy or to Interpret the Scripture by it I would have any Man shew me where the Power of Deciding Matters of Faith is given to every particular Man Christ left his Power to his Church even to forgive sins in Heaven and left his Spirit with them which they Exercis'd after his Resurrection First by his Apostles in their Creed and many Years after by the Council at Nice where that Creed was made that is call'd by that Name and by the Power which they had receiv'd from Christ they were the Judges even of the Scripture it self many Years after the Apostles which Books were Canonical and which were not And if they had this Power then I desire to know how they came to lose it and by what Authority Men separate themselves from that Church The only Pretence I ever heard of was because the Church has fail'd in wresting and Interpreting the Scripture contrary to the true Sense and Meaning of it and that they have Imposed Articles of Faith upon us which are not to be warranted by Gods Word I do desire to know who is to be Judge of that whether the whole Church the Succession whereof has continu'd to this Day without Interruption or particular Men who have rais'd Schisms for their own Advantage This is a true Copy of a Paper I found in the late King my Brother 's Strong Box written in His own Hand JAMES R. The Second Paper IT is a sad thing to consider what a world of Heresies are crept into this Nation Every Man thinks himself as competent a Judge of the Scriptures as the very Apostles themselves and 't is no wonder that it should be so since that part of the Nation which looks most like a Church dares not bring the true Arguments against the other Sects for fear they should be turn'd against themselves and confuted by their own Arguments The Church of England as 't is call'd would fain have it thought that they are the Judges in Matters Spiritual and yet dare not say positively that there is no Appeal from them for either they must say that they are Infallible which they cannot pretend to or confess that what they Decide in Matters of Conscience is no further to be follow'd than it agrees with every Man 's private Judgment If Christ did leave a Church here upon Earth and we were all once of that Church how and by what Authority did we separate from that Church If the Power of Interpreting of Scripture be in every Man's Brain what need have we of a Church or Church-men To what purpose then did our Saviour after he had given his Apostles Power to Bind and Loose in Heaven and Earth add to it that he would be with them even to the end of the World These words were not spoken Parabolically or by way of Figure Christ was then ascending into his Glory and left his Power with his Church even to the End of the World We have had these hundred Years past the sad Effects of denying to the Church that Power in Matters Spiritual without an Appeal What Country can subsist in Peace or Quiet where there is not a Supream Judge from whence there can be no Appeal Can there be any Justice done where the Offenders are their own Judges and equal Interpreters of the Law with those that are appointed to administer Justice This is our Case here in England in Matters Spiritual for the Protestants are not of the Church of England as 't is the true Church from whence there can be no Appeal but because the Discipline of that Church is conformable at that present to their Fancies which as soon as it shall contradict or vary from they are ready to embrace or joyn with the next Congregation of People whose Discipline and Worship agrees with their Opinion at that time so that according to this Doctrine there is no other Church nor Interpreter of Scripture but that which lies in every Man 's giddy Brain I desire to know therefore of every serious Considerer of these Things whether the great Work our Salvation ought to depend upon such a Sandy Foundation as this Did Christ ever say to the Civil Magistrate much less to the People That he would be with them to the End of the World Or did he give them the Power to forgive Sins St. Paul tells the Corinthians Ye are God's Husbandry ye are God's Building We are Labourers with God This shews who are the Labourers and who are the Husbandry and Building And in this whole Chapter and in the preceding one St. Paul takes great pains to set forth that they the Clergy have the Spirit of God without which no man searcheth the deep things of God and he concludeth the Chapter with this Verse For who hath known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him But we have the mind of Christ Now if we do but consider in humane Probability and Reason the Powers Christ leaves to his Church in the Gospel and St. Paul explains so distinctly afterwards we cannot think that our Saviour said all these things to no purpose And pray consider on the other side that those who resist the Truth and will not submit to his Church draw their Arguments from Implications and