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A67449 A dialogue concerning women, being a defence of the sex written to Eugenia. Walsh, William, 1663-1708.; Dryden, John, 1631-1700. 1691 (1691) Wing W645; ESTC R13108 44,218 144

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Callicratides in one of his Dialogues railing at the Sex in opposition to Charicles h● does it in the defence of a Sin which ● am sure you will scarce think it civil to name What shall we say to Iuvenal but what Plato did to Xenocrates bid him Sacrifice to the Graces He is always Violent always Declaiming always in a Passion and what wonder if he falls upon the Women in one of his Fits After all you will make no great matter of him for if he has writ one Satyr upon the Women he has writ fifteen upon the Men. For the Comick Poets and Satyrists whom you mention in general when you name 'em in particular I shall give 'em particular answers And now truly Sir see your self reduc'd to a miserable Equipage some old Husbands and jilted Lovers some men with ill Faces and worse Meens may possibly stick to you still but that is all I am sorry to see a man so well made of so much Wit and who has been so successful amongst the Ladies rank himself with such a Tribe but you do it I suppose by way of variety only and so let Misogynes appear at the Head of his Regiment that makes a worse Figure than Sir Iohn Falstaffe's let 'em be encourag'd with stumm'd Wine and muddy Ale let 'em give Fire to their Mundungus and so let the battel begin whilst we with all the Heroes Wits and Philosophers see how we can defend the Cause we have undertaken I am sensible Sir that I have broken the order of your Discourse and I beg your Pardon for it But I thought it was necessary to dististinguish our Enemies from our Friends before the Armies joyn'd that so we might know whom to attack and whom to spare and having done that I shall now confine my self to your Method and follow the Course that you please to lead me Though I perfectly agree with you in the esteem of the Laws made for the encouragement of Marriage and consequently cannot but regret the want of 'em amongst our selves yet I must beg your Pardon Sir if I wholly dissent from you in the inference you would draw from it For ●tis very apparent to me and to any unbiass'd Person else I suppose that those Laws were never made as you fancy for the forcing men to the Love of Women to which all Coun●ries were naturally enough enclined ●ut for the restraining 'em to particu●ars that whilst they follow'd the ge●eral pleasures of the Sex they might ●ot lose the useful part which was the ●rocreation of Children Had there ●een so few Vertues amongst 'em as ●ou please to imagine there had been ●o need of this When we have but one Dish of Meat that we like we fall upon that without any deliberation but when the fancy is distracted with variety of Dainties we often lose more time in the making our choice than would otherwise be requisite to the satisfying our Appetites 'T is true Sir it is a very good way to judge of People by the Company they are fond of but 't is not a certain way to judge of People by the Company that is fond of them There was a Taylor in love with Queen Elizabeth but it does not necessarily follow that Queen Elizabeth was in love with a Taylor If there are Fops if there are ridiculous Fellows who follow the Ladies before we run down the Ladies for it let us see if they do not laugh at 'em as well as we our selves And I cannot think their pursuing 'em an● reason at all for Men of sense to avoid ' em You would think it very hard that Alexander and Caesar should quit the Art of War because some Thrasoes and bragging Bullies pretended to it as well as they and Virgil and Horace would take it very ill that you shou'd damn all sorts of Poetry because of the Bavius's and Maevius's who set up for it and whatever reason you wou'd give against the being a Minister of State I dare say Sir Politick Woudbee's aiming at it wou'd be none Here Philogynes ●seems to me not to understand the right use of that considerable part of Mankind call'd Fools For it is only the Half Wit that is intolerable and a true Fool is next a true Wit the best Company in the World for as a Noble Author has extreamly well observ'd Wit like Terce Claret when 't begins to pa●● Neglected lies and 's of no use at all But in its full perfection of Decay Turns Vinegar and ●omes again in Play After this I need not tell you Sir that 't is very ill judging of People by their outside and as I laugh at those who like a Man only for his being well drest so I fancy you will allow them to be as ridiculous who run him down only for the same reason It was objected against Aristotle and Cicero that they were too sumptuous in their Apparel and overcurious in their Dress and without doubt there were deep Criticks in those times said they minded nothing but making themselves fine who yet without any offence to their Learning we may suppose cou'd not give so good an account of their Studies as these two great Men have done of theirs Courage there are two good Precedents for the Beaux After all Sir I know there are a great many of these gay Coxcombs of these eternal pretenders to Love and I have nothing to say in their behaves let 'em e'●n shift for themselves amongst the Thrasoes and Bavius's But they do not only pretend you say they are successful too 'T is very possible Sir I do not know but there may be Fools enow of the other Sex to like the Fools of ours But it is with the best sort of Women too you say that they succeed And who tells you so pray They themselves I swear Sir though I have a very great esteem for those Gentlemen yet I must beg their Pardon for my faith in this point I can never think a Woman whose Wit we all allow can be fond of a Man whose Folly we all see On the other side I know how natural it is for every one to avoid contempt and when a man is despis'd in one place what so reasonable as to make you believe he is esteem'd in another And I hope the Gentlemen themselves will take it for a Compliment when I tell 'em I do not believe a word they say in this point since certainly a Man of Honour wou'd rather of the two tell a Lye to the prejudice of a Woman who uses him ill than a truth to the utter ruine of one who grants him all the favours he can ask But let us judge 'em by their Actions say you Do not most of the young Heiresses run away with pitiful Fellows If they do Sir it should rather deserve your Pity than your Anger or if you must be angry be angry with the Guardians whose severity frighten 'em away and yet hinders 'em the