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A88837 The lip of truth opened, against a dawber with untempered morter. A few words against a book, written by Magnus Bine priest, in the county of Sussex, which he calls, The scornful quakers answered, &c. But he himself is found the scorner, and the lyer, charging me with things I never spoke, nor never entered into my heart to speak. / Tho. Lawson. Lawson, Thomas, 1630-1691. 1656 (1656) Wing L725; Thomason E889_9; ESTC R206504 49,355 60

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and imaginations but thy thoughts and thy fancy as thou calls it and thy imaginations and thy lies and thy slanders thy covetous practises all come out of one seat even the earth which is rejected of God and of all that know God and keep in this crosse but thy practises by Scripture prove where did ever Christ give Davids experiences to the world to sing in Meeter where did the Apostles give Davids conditions to the world to sing in Meeter who were to teach people to observe all that Christ commanded them where did any of the gathered Churches use Meeter singing but thy flock would have it and thou arts a man-pleaser for thy two parish Tyth sake and Sternhold and Hopkins their invention of Meeter singing is become a dainty dish for Dives and with the same mind that you will lye cozen covet jeer and scorn with the same mind you will offer up Sternhold and Hopkins invention to the living God and this is part of your will worship and worse and worse thou grows for against this invention thou hast witnessed but for thy Idols sake thou wilt give Dives all his dainties thy blind hearers their customs and that 's the way to make thy covenant strong with them but it is but with death and hell and wo is the end of it but the singing with the Spirit we own the singing of the Ransomed we own but in the Pit and Grave you are and thou makes them erre Thou saies There 's the Appetite and that 's the seat of desires lustings and longings after things whether good or evil page 108. I answer Thou art again in the Ranters line and would perswade people that all desires lustings and longings after things whether good or evil comes out of one seat Oh that ever England who hath been so crowned with the Mercies of the Lord should be led with such enchanters as thee Surely surely as they come out of the pit which you and they are faln into they cannot but cry out We have trusted in lying Prophets and we have given our mony for that which is not bread thou art in the flesh where thy lustings and longings after evil is and that is thy seat but Christ is the light of the world who lighteth every one that cometh into the world Joh. 1.9 and this light who owns desires are begot after the good and to escape the evil without me you can do nothing saith Christ and this I leave with thee to prove that all desires lustings and longings after things whether good or evil come out of one seat and that is Appetite Again thou makes a long Rabble and tells of the reason will the seat of doing good or evil fancy the seat of thoughts and imaginations and of the appetite the seat of lusting and longing after things whether good or evil c and when the Lord comes thou saies all these are healed and made well and they are all brought into the life of God page 108. I answer O friends consider these his sayings and blasphemous speeches who is telling of healing the will the fancy the thoughts and imagination the appetite the lusting and longing after good or evil and of bringing them into the life of God when as no unclean thing can dwell with him surely he imagins God to have a heart like his own else he would never publish it of bringing the very spring of evil thoughts and imaginations lustings after evil all into the life of God Surely you that are his Hearers except you be seared and past feeling as he is you cannot read these wicked blasphemous speeches but tremble and be ashamed and know this that if you receive these things for truth you are given up to believe lyes and that is a woful judgement Thou bids me take thy thoughts of heaven and hell and use them at my pleasure page 109. I answer thy thoughts are altogether vain and thy words blasphemous so therewith heaven thou must not enter and the lake the deceiver must go into and the deceived who set up thy thoughts but them I deny and thee also Thou saies Among the Saints there is a great variety of opinions and judgments concerning the binding and loosing of Satan page 111. I answer This is a lie the Saints in light grow up in the life where Sects Schisms Heresies and divers Opinions be not here the one heart mind and soul is known here the Angel the great Chain is known and the binding of Satan is rightly known but thou and them thou cals Saints live in rage imaginations and violence so are Heathen so one cries up one thing and another the contrary and the many Opinions among you is found and such vain talkers as thou and thy raging imagining Saints as thou cals them are wrangling about the binding of Satan without you how it shall be and when it shall be in the mean time he is loose within you some rage violence imaginations blasphemous speeches covetous practises variety of opinions but we know the Kingdom which is not divided where rage violence diversity of opinions and covetous persons come not so we witness against you and your Kingdom which is divided where the many Sects Opinions Heresies and Blasphemies are hatched and brought forth Thou sayes The Saints live upon God in the Scriptures Page 117. I answer This is another lie and all that know where the Tabernacle of God is they will bring in their testimony against thee who sayes God is in the Scriptures this is all thou knows of him or where he is the Scriptures say God is in his Son in his Saints in his Throne in his Temple in his holy Hill in Immortality but it saith not that he is in the Scriptures neither that the Scriptures is his Son Saints Throne Temple holy Hill nor Immortality so prove what thou hast said and what the Saints seed on no covetous selfish earthly mind doth know such feed on swines flesh Cockatrice eggs this is thy feeding so read the Scriptures and tell me what Scripture hath God in it so by thy words he that hath the Scriptures hath God he that can buy a Bible as it is called may buy God also for God is in the Scriptures thou sayes Again thou sayes Plain light is written in the Scriptures Page 118. I answer This is another lie the light is but one Christ Emanuel God with us who said all mine are thine and thine a●e mine and I am glorified in them John 17.10 in them saith Christ the light but that light is in the Scriptures this thou art to prove but the many lies thou vomits up out of the bottomless pit makes it manifest the Devil is raised in thee according to thy own words who told Humphrey Killingbank that I had abused thee in writing to thee so I had raised the Devil in thee it appears he is high risen in thee who is a lyar from the beginning so art publishing
that in thy conscience which in the flesh thou makes merry over and hast sent a gift as I may say a lying Book to the Nations the earthly kinred to increase their mirth over that which bears witness their deeds and thy deeds be evil yet it shall witness us to be of God so the witness of men we receive but lo the witness of God is greater Friend read soberly what is it hath broken thy Covenant and fellowship with the Ranters it hath been but broken of late see if they be denied for conscience sake or for thy two Parish Tyth sake for men are making a reformation in the earth and casting out the scandalous I know thou art crafty and shifty and thy crying against the truth it makes room in the hearts of Sions enemies to receive thee and let thee in so thou pushing with thy horn against them who cry for equity and wait to see righteousness and justice run down the streets in so doing through thy policy craft and guile thou may think to prosper and magnifie thy self in the earth the candle is lighted and set upon a golden Candlestick if that in thy conscience let the see I speak the truth let not thy will which leads thee into covetous practices call me a false SEER but stay thou wilt say for Conscience sake thou breaks off from and witnesses against the Ranters well I say I am glad that thou denies them and thy carding dicing hunting vain pleasures and idle jesting which feeds the old man and if thou obey that which witnesses against these evil things it will lead the out of all selfishness some rubbish and not let thee tast of the dreggs of the old Bottle and come out of thy covetous practices which thou confesses thou lives in thy two Parish Tyth thy hearts great Idol and we cannot but own thee in that which divides thee and thy Idols assunder that in thy conscience this shall own though flesh be angry and OLD CAIN would murder and be wroth Thou tells the Reader that I scoff at the sufferings and dying of Christ in the flesh Answ My Conscience bears me witnesse in the sight of God that thou speaks falsly of me for the just one was betrayed and crucified Matt. 27.35 And in that he dyed he dyed unto sin once and in that he lives he lives unto God Rom. 6.10 This witness bear we Thou tells the Reader that a companion of mine told thee he was Christ and that I yielded to it by silence Answ This is a lie he uttered no such word Thou tells the Reader there is variety of waies to Sion I answer that is false the way is but one 1 Kings 8.36 saith Solomon saith Isaiah Isa 30.21 Saith Jeremiah Jer. 6.16 32 39. One way saith Jeremiah and saith Christ I am the way John 14.6 who was before Abraham before the world was even of old and all the Patriaths Prophets Apostles and all the holy men of God who have walked and do walk in the good old way all these received and receive grace from Christ who is the way John 14 6. Now thou that lives in folly selfishness and covetous practices thou art out of the one way the unclean walk not in it Isa 35.8 So art the Backslider in heart fi●led with thy own waies Prov. 14.14 folly selfishness and covetous practices here is the many waies here is thy variety these lead from Sion into the Chambers of death now Peter a Minister by the will of God he spoke of some that were in thy practices covetous practices 2 Pet. 2.14.15 and he said they had forsaken the right way Thou tells me that the light within me tells me that I call thee Priest in pride and scorn page 15. I answer this is not true neither in pride nor in scorn do I call the Priest but I call the Priest for that thou takes Tyth the wage of the first Priesthood yet thou denies to do his work and Christ who is a Priest for ever who put an end to the Priesthood to the work he also put an end to the wage that he confirmed it to any other prove it if thou canst Thou saies I scoff at thy saying Christ is the first principle of pure Religion and asks me if I will be religious without the Son of God and asks if we must go to Sinai to make us religious was not Paul there and was a persecutor c. page 16.17 I answer Scoffing I deny it is thy own and O shameless man did not I write unto thee and hast not thou printed it that who is come to the Son is in the pure Religion and yet thou asks me if I will be religious without the Son yet know this that while Paul persecuted c. though he had the letter without yet he was without the law Rom. 7.9 Now Christ is the true light who lighteth every one John 1.9 This light is the law written in the heart for saith Solomon the Law is light Prov. 6.23 which light cometh from Christ who lighteth every one now who love the light the Law written in the heart is come to the first principle which shews evill and corruption it condemns for every transgression there the pure religion in measure is witnessed now when the seed which is Christ is come trangression is finished the Body dead because of sin Rom. 8.10 If this thou could receive thou would not stumble at what I said or do now say but would know the Law which is the Scoolmaster to bring to Christ Coll. 3 24. and Christ lighteth every one and the Law is light so thou that asks if we must go to Sinai to make us religious makes it appear thou knows not the Law written in the heart which condemnes and is added because of transgression till the seed come who finishes transgression where condemnation is not if at this thou stumble it is that the Scripture may be fulfilled Christ the seed a stumbling stone but come let us try thy religion Iames tells us what the pure religion is even to be kept unspotted from the world Iames 1.27 Now folly is a spot of the world selfishness a s●ot covetous practices are spots of the world so out of thy own mouth thou art found out of the pure religion Thou saies the Scriptures are the sure word of God page 17. I answer the Scriptures are a witness against thee saying God is the Word Iohn 1.1 and Christ his name is called the word of God Rev. 19.13 This word is quick and powerful and if ever thou comes to know it and to be in it thou will be freed of thy covetous practices now of this word the Scriptures is a true declaration Luke 1.1 Iohn 5.39 1 Iohn 1.3 Thou saies the end of the Scriptures is to turn People to Christ page 17. Answ The Scriptures cannot turn any to Christ but they testifie of that which turn men to Christ Christ said no man can