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A66860 One warning more to the Baptists before their day be wholly spent and the night cover them ... : with a short answer to a book of Matthew Coffin's one of their teachers ... intituled Faith in Gods promises the saints best weapons : with many queries also for them to answer ... / written by one that hath sat under those shadows with them but hath now found the day in which all shadows fly away, Humphery Wolrich. Wollrich, Humphry, 1633?-1707. 1661 (1661) Wing W3296; ESTC R26391 19,062 22

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be called wonderful Counsellor the mighty God the everlasting Father the Prince of peace Isa 9.6 and what was the Hypocrites and Pharisees angry with Christ for as thou art with us was it not because he said he was the son of God and before Abraham Thou sayest Christ is not come the second time to you or to any upon the earth My answer is Did not the Saints know Christ after the flesh some time and said they desired to know him so no more what dost thou imagine his second appearance to be was it not without sin unto salvation and did not they witnesse this that he was in them and they in him which saved their souls from sin and were they not kept perfect and pure by the anointing and power which thou wrangleft against so that the wicked one touched them not dost thou know what salvation is or the image and state is in which man was created which thou fightest against and sayest none can come into in this life if this be not it which the Saints did witnesse in whom he was glorified with the same glory he had with the Father before the world began and whether they were not come to it which said as sin hath abounded so grace and truth which came by Jesus Christ did much more abound Also ye say Christ was never crucified but once My answer is Christ was crucified at Jerusalem but what private interpretation wilt thou give to these Scriptures Gal. 3.1 whether such fools as thou and the Galatians were who were gone from the Spirit and doth not Paul say Jesus Christ was evidently crucified amongst them were they not such as turned against the Light which had enlightned them who were become a spiritual Sodom did not these crucifie to themselves afresh and put him to open shame Heb 6.6 Though thou sayest the eternal Spirit hath no bloud I say it is because thou never sawst it nor witnessed the bloud of the everlasting Covenant to sprinkle thy Conscience therefore dost thou thus deny it and tread it under thy feet Again ye affirm that neither Peter nor Paul Abraham Isaac nor Jacob were redeemed out of the curse neither were they in the Kingdom of God My answer to you is God is not the God of the dead but of the living and such as were lively stones did say they sate in heavenly places in Christ Jesus Eph. 1.3 Eph. 2.6 And Peter saith an entrance was ministred abundantly into the kingdom of Jesus Christ and Paul saith he was wrapped up into the third heavens but thou that art in the Kingdom of darknesse wilt tread upon this as thou sayest thou dost upon the Quakers principle for which cause thy self shall be trodden in the wine-presse of Gods wrath Again ye deny that Christ is a Spirit To which I say God is a Spirit and that which is born of him is Spirit and I query of thee what Christ thou ownest whether he that enlightneth every man or another and what body was that which thou sayest ascended and now sitteth at the right hand on the Majesty on high was it he that first descended and came out from God or another seeing the Scripture saith if thou wilt not deny it or say in thy dark mind who art a Teacher as Nicodemus who was a Ruler in Israel concerning regeneration and the way of the Spirit how can these things be when Christ told him a man must be born again he was as blind yet I dare not say so wicked as thou for he came to Jesus by night he said can a man that is old enter into his mothers womb and be born again if this be not thy state send me an answer and tell me if thou be able who was that spoken of John 1.10 He was in the world and the world was made by him and the world knew him not he came to his own and they received him not but as many as did receive him received power to become the sons of God which were born not of the corruptible but of the incorruptible seed neither were they born of the will of the flesh Mark nor as thou art but of God and the immortal seed which liveth and abideth for ever Again I ask thee who was that which descended and what is it seeing the Scripture saith Eph. 4.10 he that descended is the same that ascended up far above all heavens that he might fill all things dost thou believe that the Jews did not look upon Christ who had eyes and saw him not to be as very a blasphemer as thou judges the Quakers John 3.13 no man hath ascended up to Heaven but he that came down from Heaven mark was not this a strange word to them and will it not be as strange to thee had not thy Father taught thee to wrest the words of truth to thy own destruction even the Son of man which is in Heaven was not the Saviour of the world without Father without Mother without descent having neither beginning of dayes nor end of life was not this the Son of God who is King of Righteousnesse and after that King of Peace Heb. 6.3 and had not the body which the Jews nailed to the Crosse a beginning or was it from all eternity and was that visible body and form which he took upon him was that the form and image of the invisible God and was that the first born in every Creature and were all things made by that visible body and was that body before all things and do all things consist by it or hath Christ two Bodies seeing the Scripture saith Christ is not divided and though there be many Members and Branches yet is there but one Body or Vine Again you Baptists say Its Blasphemy to say all that which was spoken by Christ Mat. 2.24 was fulfilled in that Generation might not thou as well and as truly call Christ a Blasphemer as thy Brethren the unbelieving Jews did as to charge the Quakers with Blasphemy for speaking the very same thing and witnessing it to be true which he did speak Mat. 24.34 Verily verily I say unto you this Generation shall not passe until all these things be fulfilled Heaven and Earth shall passe away but my words shall not pass away can thy earthly heart believe this nay nay the world by wisdom knows not it no nor the Angels of Heaven but he to whom the Angels must bow knoweth it right well our God is risen of a certain Truth he will do a work in this Generation a marvelous work and a Wonder even the God of the despised Quakers shall work and who shall let him he will triumph over Palestine over Edom and Amaleck will he cast his shooe Moab shall be his wash-pot the humble shall hear thereof and be glad Kings shall melt away Princes shall be as a thing of naught he will exalt his horn his strength is as the strength of a Unicorn in the house of David is
his Scepter known and his dwelling place is become great in Israel eternal God King of Kings and Lord of Lords is his Name thoughout all Generations Kings shall hear of him and submit themselves Princes shall be turned aside by the brightnesse of his rising who is the Resurrection and the life who comprehends the Heavens and the Earth with a span and layes up the Sea as in store houses this is our God the living and true God which you Baptists are fighting against What was Pauls the Saints Weapons I querie of you Baptists and what was his Armour which he and the Saints put on was it not the Lord Jesus Christ the Light who is called a Helmet of Salvation and the Sword of the Spirit Is it not the Word of God which is Light unto which word Paul did commit the Saints and told them it was able to keep them from falling Or do you imagine the Letter to be the Armour of Righteousnesse which I say doth but only declare of them Is your faith begotten by the Preaching of the dead letter which the Jews thought to have eternal Life in or by the Preaching of the Gospel which is the eternal Word of God which was Preached to Abraham and which was and is and is to come a Preacher of Righteousnesse in all Generations and which the Apostle saith Was Preached to every Creature under Heaven where the Scripture is not known nor heard of but this light which you Baptists trample on I say all have so heard so as to be convinced thereby though not saved because they have not obeyed but as the Apostle saith so say I by the same Spirit and Faith Faith comes by hearing and hearing by this Word of God the Jews had not this Word and Faith and therefore fought against the Life as ye do but the Light within they could not indure no more then you but hated it Therefore said Christ Ye shall die in your sins except ye believe that I am he the Light is the eye in which Abraham saw his day and by which I will guide my people saith the Lord What is that eye that must be made blind and that hand that must be cut off Is it not the eye that sees not the Son and therefore is not satisfied And was not this eye in Herod which is the eye of the Adulterour and hunteth for the pretious Life And was not this life in Esau who missed the Blessing and in Nimrod and in all the Children of confusion who are hunting mightily before the Lord without the Spirit who is the Lord and should lead you by the Fountains of living Water and feed you with the Living Bread of Heaven which Living Bread you are seeking among the Graves and Tombs dead forms carnal Ordinances which I say with J. Fuce makes nothing perfect but Christ the better Hope who doth thorowly walk and reform change and translate out of death into Life out of darknesse into Light out of Satans power and kingdom into Gods Power and Kingdom as the Saints were and is not this the same state that Adam was created in who was the Son of God before either Types Shadows Vails Coverings Death or Grave Hell or the Bottomless Pit were What is your Water Baptism Is it not a figure which gives not the answer of a good Conscience What is your Bread Wine and Ordinances which ye like the Jews so much cry up having lost the Spirit which the true Jew they that had the one Baptism into the one spirit and the new wine in the Fathers Kingdom and the living Bread which came down from Heaven had MATTHEW CAFFIN For the Truths sake and sim●●●● an open enemy to it and hatest the Light and canst not abide that it should be so much Preached I shal answer to those things charged against us in thy book so far as they are our words and not thy own with wicked inventions cast upon us by thy venemous tongue And as for our Principle it is the Way the Truth and the Life and it is clear and innocent in it self though its image and beauty hath been more mared by such as thou who like the Jews are crying up the Ordinances of the Lord which makes the comers thereunto no more perfect then theirs did then by any Professors besides in the Nation and it will clear it self should we be silent and spew such as thou art out of its mouth 1. The first thing thou chargest the Quakers with is That they say the eternal Spirit of Light and Power is the Saviour of the world Ans This is owned and not denyed but that I or any of the Quakers deny the man Christ Jesus is not our Principle but thy own lie cast upon us and my words do not agree with thine but with the Scripture and Christs words John 5. where he saith Ye have neither heard his voice nor seen his shape at any time Now if thou sayst this was not spoken of Christ but the Father I say it was spoken of both for they are one if thou couldst but believe the Scripture or own the Light John 14. I am in the Father and the Father in me the words that I speak I speak not of my self but the Father that dwelleth in me he doth the work blessed is the eye that sees him it is satisfied vers 8. Philip said unto him Lord shew us the Father and it sufficeth mark Philip a hearer with the outward ear but being dull of hearing and dim sighted at the present he was unsatisfied though he had seen and heard with the outward ear vers 9. Jesus said unto him have I been so long time with you and yet hast thou not known me Phillip he that hath seen me hath seen the Father also but thou sayest the eyes of all in the Synagogue saw him and were fastned on him and thou supposest the Quakers have no shew of Scripture to prove that they which crucified him had any other eyes here thy malice hath transported thee beyond thy own rule the Scripture saith expresly The Vail was over their Hearts and they had outward eyes and saw him and said he was the Carpenters Son but Christ said they were blind leaders of the blind mark the Light which he bids them believe in whilst they had it is the eye and that they had eyes and saw not ears and heard not and hearts but understood not Mark 8.18 Ezek. 12.2 Jer. 5.21 Therefore what eye did Paul open or what ear was he sent to unstop and what prisoner was that which he was sent to proclaim liberty unto and what was that house and prison he was to bring him out of what did he minister and what did he minister to was he not a Minister of Christ after his own eye was opened and Christ revealed which before was vailed in him did he not minister to the Spirit in prison Answer if thou canst and sow the seed of eternal