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A82528	A friendly debate on a weighty subject: or, a conference by writing betwixt Mr Samuel Eaton and Mr John Knowles concerning the divinity of Iesus Christ: for the beating out, and further clearing up of truth.	Eaton, Samuel, 1596?-1665.; Knowles, John, fl. 1646-1668.	1650 (1650)	Wing E121; Thomason E609_16; ESTC R205964	49,997	66

A friendly DEBATE On a WEIGHTY SUBJECT OR A Conference by Writing Betwixt Mr SAMVEL EATON AND Mr JOHN KNOWLES Concerning the DIVINITY OF IESUS CHRIST For the beating out and further clearing up of TRUTH LONDON Printed by T. N. for GYLES CALVERT at the black spread-Eagle at the West-end of Pauls MDCL presented Truths nor thine own Eyes to be too much weakned by over much use of the clouded spectacles of Ancient termes and opinions but in regard there must be some Oneness and Analogy between the Recipient and the thing received to make up an intellectuall and perfect conjunction as the Metaphysicks say be exhorted in the fervent Love of the Love-working Spirit to understand what you receive and to receive what you convincingly understand let not ancient Authority darken Truths glory though newly discovered nor new Errors shake Truth setled though anciently confirmed but as the Apostle saith in the Spirit of the Father Try all things The Treatise designes the confirmation of the Negative part of this Logicall Question Whether Jesus Christ the Son of the Most High God be that God the nature thereof is of high concernment and cals for the greatest the gravest consideration 'T is the exhortation of the Spirit Heb. 3.1 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Heb. 3.1 Holy Brethren consider the word is weighty Beloved Christians the Son requires the understanding of a sublimated spirit sunk down into the very Center of the Soul expunged from the Reliques of the dregs of vain delusions Professors of all sorts examine principles already taken in try it with your own hands especially this heer presented it is matter of moment and that for these Arguments 1. In regard of the Excellency of this Knowledg Phil. 3.8 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so Paul cals it Phil. 3.8 't is the knowledg of him that lay in the womb of Eternity that received that revealed the bosom-secrets of glory 1 Ioh. 1.18 'T is the knowledg of our friend that is crowned King in the Assembly of Heaven and contains the treasures of wisdom and knowledge Psal 2.6 Col. 2.3 2. In regard of the Mysterie of this Knowledge Every Truth is a secret and that in regard of its proximity that I may not say Identity to the highest Then that sure more eminently which the Spirit of God intentionally signes so The Sons name is a secret as that Angels Judg. 13.18 Phelij a secret a wonderfull name a wonderfull name indeed would it be were his name in the number thereof made known And Col. 4.3 Eph. 3.3 Col. 2.2 Col. 4.3 Ephes 3.3 Col. 2.2 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The disquisition and search of things remote separate and transcendent is a work for Spirits generated in the Divine Love and tinctur'd with the Divine Nature which enobles them above all acts seemingly glorious in the worlds view especially 3. In regard of the Utility thereof The Knowledge of the Son is very profitable by the right understanding whereof many prophecies concerning the Church lye either chained up in darkness and undiscovered or appear so mighty that they are by most too too rashly censur'd condemned 'T is no less then eternall life in all the parts thereof John 17.3 1 John 5.20 Nay John 17.3 1 John 5.20 John 14.9 't is to know the Being of all knowledg and the center of every Being John 14.9 Friends sit down no longer in deadness in darkness but consider these things in your selves once and again and then judg according to the spirit of Oneness and divine Revelation that works in you See more by your own Eyes that the Babel of Traducall Doctrines authoriz'd only by man may fail and fall To beleeve this or that to be without a spirituall light and intelligent perswasion is but an implicit faith and comes under the Roman condemnation He knows best that hath truth written upon his own soul But when on the one hand I weigh the wantonness of these dayes in lifting up the heel against many Truths pressing near and the facility on the other hand to entertain without knowledge and understanding it prompts me to premeditate the various effects this ensuing Treatise will produce Some Luxuriant and heady spirits will peradventure draw the curtains before they know 't is night and sit down in their retired their forced darkness Others whose ears stands always open and Athenian-like are wandring are waiting for some new thing wil too easily welcom it as an Angel of Light and lodg it with them without so much as quaering What are you But are afterwards as soon drawn out of it as dallied to it Yet is it my hopes that some Valiant one in spirituall Israel whose sword is on his thigh Cant. 3.7 8. will enter the List with her to the discovery of her strength or weakness and endeavour the settlement of this point in Question Happily this may be the time that the Truth of these Mysteries of the Father and of Christ shall be manifested who sees not the multitude of divisions haesitations acceptations concerning God Christ and the Spirit The smoke of the pit ascends very high me thinks it proclaims the glory of the Lord to be rising for the breaking of the cloud to the ushering in of the day But why are such things brought forth to trouble the people 'T is not I can assure thee blazon'd with singularity or effected publicity but that that Doctrine formerly received might have better foundations then the Philosophers Jus Rationis or occulta qualitas to palliate their ignorance that things might come to a particular scrutiny and that the seemingly fair face of many mentall buildings may be searched and their body examin'd to the very Basis Let no man be offended at the style thereof plainness of language may be no hinderance to her entertainment she may happily make better provision in that kinde when humane Eloquence is made the Watchword in the Lords Army and yet if any shall wonder why it adventures abroad in such a cloathing give me leave to Apologize a little for her Garments and tell you that she rose in haste and intended onely a visitation to a private friend upon a more then earnest invitation but by the way meeting with some adventitious Salutants she was unwillingly arrested and now prest to hazard her self upon the doubtfull multitude Lastly for I am writing an Epistle if any Man from its pretence to Light and claim to Reason especially the Gentleman for whom it was intended and to whom 't is committed shall daigne to descend the Sands with it Let him in Love and in the Spirit know That reviling is no reason and that he addes nothing to Truth that belcheth forth bitterness from a distemper'd spirit Let him teach himself in the Doctrine of Luther Non convitiis sed argumentis errantis conscientia est erigenda And if yet any man shall indiscreetly and scornfully handle his weapons the return of the Author I

I shall put this Instance in form of an Argument that the fallacy and insufficiency thereof may the better appear That it is contrary to the Scripture to give Divine worship honour and service to a meer Creature But Divine worship honour and service is by the warrant of the Scripture given to Christ Iesus Rev. 5.12 13 14. Therefoae Christ Iesus is not a meer creature To the Major I shall thus reply 1. I conceive that your expressions having in them some ambiguity need explanation If by Divine worship honour and service you mean that worship honor and service which is in any sense Divine I utterly deny your Proposition as erroneous and unsound For there is no worship honour and service which of right belongs to the creature but is in a sense Divine God being the principall Author and ultimate Center thereof Rom. 13. Eph. 5.7 But if you mean in the strictest sense that worship honour and service which is peculiar unto the most High God then shall I say with you that it is Idolatry and contrary to the Scripture to give it to any creature whatsoever That worship honour and service which is peculiar unto God differs from that which may be yeelded to the Creature partly in the matter but wholly in the manner of it We must pray to God for all things we want and may pray to men for what they can give we must obey God and we must obey men who are set over us by God but we may not worship honour or serve men in the like manner as we doe the most High God who is the Principall and Ultimate Object of all worship honour and service his right thereto being only of himself and he himself being the sole end thereof According to this sense is that command which our Saviour mentions Mat. 4. ●0 to be understood Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve 2. I wonder at this adjection MEER which you have added to creature as if a creature in essence could be more then a meer creature or as if some creature might have as its right and due that honor worship and service which the Scripture doth appropriate to the most High God Sure I am that creatures as creatures are excluded from sharing with GOD in that worship and service which is peculiar to him Now for your Minor That Divine worship honor and service is by Scripture-warrant given to Christ Iesus Answ Sir it is granted that Jesus Christ is the intermediate object of Divine worship honour and service being Gods Viceroy and acting amongst men in his Fathers name which the Scripture you bring helps to confirm But where the Scripture allows worship honour and service to be given to him as the Principall and Vltimate Object thereof is not yet made to appear and therefore the Conclusion may not have liberty to pass as an unquestiouable truth Instance 2 If Christ be a meer creature then it is lawfull and warrantable to beleeve in a meer Creature which is against the tenure of the whole Scripture But it is commanded in reference unto Christ Joh. 14.1 and salvation is annexed to it Jo. 3.36 Instance 3 If Christ be a meer creature then faith in a meer creature can save man which is absurd and grosse and contrary to the Scriptures for Abraham beleeved God and it was accounted to him for Righteousness Rom. 4.3 and so was saving Answ SIR these two instances the one being in respect of the other flesh of its flesh and bone of its bone I have joyn'd together and shall oppose unto these two Propositions which the Scripture will warrant and may suffice for an Answer 1. That that Faith which is needfull and necessary to salvation hath a double object God and the man Christ Jesus Joh. 14.1 the Scripture which you quote bears witness to this as a truth We are to beleeve on him that sent Jesus Christ Joh. 5.24 Verily verily I say unto you saith Christ he that heareth my Word and beleeveth on him that sent me hath everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation but is passed from death to life And also on Jesus Christ that was sent John 6.29 As the Serpent was lifted up in the wilderness so must the Son of man be lifted up that whosoever beleeveth in him should not perish but have everlasting life John 3.14 15. That faith which hath but a single object is not a saving faith It is impossible that men should by a Gospel-light beleeve in God and not in Christ or in Christ and not in God Jesus cryed and said He that beleeveth on me beleeveth not on me but on him that sent me John 12.44 For by the Gospel God appears merciful in the face of Christ Christ appears instrumentall in the hand of God Rom. 4.24 Rom. 10.9 Though in some places but one is expressed yet there the other is clearly imply'd 2. That that Faith which is needfull and necessary to salvation acts in a diverse manner on God and the Lord Christ Jesus It acts towards God as the Principall and Vltimate and towards Iesus Christ as the Secondary and mediate Object of Faith Peter shews that the Saints to whom he wrote did beleeve in God through Iesus Christ and so that God was the Ultimate and Christ the Mediate object of their faith 1 Pet. 1.21 'T is from Gods Commandment that faith in Christ is needfull 1 Iohn 3.23 And 't is from Gods appointment that faith in Christ is saving Joh. 6.4 This is the will of him that sent me saith Christ that every one which seeth the Son and beleeveth on him may have everlasting life Instance 4 If Christ be but a meer creature then a meer creature is the Saviour of men saving them with a mighty and eternal salvation as the Scripture speaks but this is against the whole current of the Gospel which speaks of God our Saviour Tit. 2.10 13. and in many other places Answ Against this your instance I shall levell this Assertion which will be sufficient to discover its weakness and confute it That to affirm Jesus Christ to be the Saviour of men without God or equal with God is contrary to the current of the whole Scripture which doth distinguish God from Christ in the work of Salvation calling him a Saviour as distinct from Christ as in the 1 Tim. 1.1 where God is said to be our Saviour and the Lord Jesus Christ to be our hope and in the Text you alleadge and frequently elsewhere And in that the Scripture doth prefer God in the work of Salvation before our Lord Jesus Christ making God to be the principal Agent therein when it declares that the work of Christ in saving men was from the purpose of God who appointed him for it and from the Precept of God who injoyned him to it and from the Presence of God who assisted him in it all which from the Scriptures might be abundantly set forth