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A85071	The Faithfull narrative of the late testimony and demand made to Oliver Cromwel, and his powers, on the behalf of the Lords prisoners, in the name of the Lord Jehovah (Jesus Christ,) king of saints and nations. Published by faithful hands, members of churches (out of the original copies) to prevent mistakes, and misreports thereupon. To the faithful remnant of the Lamb, who are in this day of great rebuke and blasphemy, ingaged against the beast and his government, especially, to the new non-conforming churches, and saints in city and country, commonly called by the name of fifth monarchy men.	Horton, Hur.	1655 (1655)	Wing F278; Thomason E830_20; ESTC R207450	41,484	44

est quin male interpretando possit depravari O.P. This will appear in the Informations that are upon the Table there what a rayler you are and therefore let them be read sayes he to some by him for there be many of them the Witnesses and the Evidences all are ready it will appeare easily and out of the Prison such Informations Evidences there are brought in let them be read Ro. Your Informations will not make it appear ere the more to just men I looked to have had a fair tryal or a Christian debate But this is otherwise seeing men that are hired or any other wayes basely suborned do inform against me as for them out of Prison it is a signe that your cause is not very good that needs such Informers as the Prisoners at Lambeth they are such as you your self have put in for plotting against you left they should cut your Throat and of whom you your self have said in your last Speech that they differed little from Beasts * Meaning now another Paper of informations of what was preached at Thomas Apostles that also lay upon the Table with the other out of Lambeth-prison At whose confidence Mr Rogers with admiration lifted up his eys hands and yet you can take their Informations against me yea drunkards swearers whoremongers Cavaliers Ranters any men that make nothing to lye swear drink curse and banne whore and blaspheme day and night and what not and yet these must inform against me to take away my Life these are but bad Evidences my Lord and besides were they honest men it were illegal O.P. Nay they are honest godly men that mourn over you and that are troubled for you that will witnesse these things against you Ro. I hardly believe honest men will accept of such an office to inform against the poor people of God and to seek the blood of any one of Christs little ones but I rather believe they are some of your hired men who seek for any stuffe to gratifie your Ears But might I but stand on even ground with equal freedome I would undertake to any unbiassed Christian to make it appear that the subject matter of our suffering for the truth and testimony of Jesus our infirmities excepted which the Lord knows are many and therefore we must overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of the Testimony Rev. 12. O.P. Nay but I know you well enough I know you and what your principle is too I know you that you never preached the Covenant of Grace yea I know it I have had some discourse with you formerly I know you are ignorant of the Covenant * This being spoken in such confusion of others the Great mans heat together he was hardly heard but onely of them who stood nigh and wrote One of his Courtiers made answer but he went on in his heat nay for all your lifting up your eyes it is so Ro. That is strange you should judge so my condition were uncomfortable then indeed if I did not know the Covenant of grace yea fruition whiles it may be some have a National disciplinary or barely intuitive knowledge there be many can testifie whether I am so ignorant or no of the Covenant of Christ who have been my hearers long ago it is for a branch yea a principal branch of the New Testament-Covenant that we are persecuted as Acts 2.30 viz. that part that God hath sworn unto to exalt Christ over all his enemies and to make him King over al Nations this Covenant of the Father to the Son makes us grapple with the Beast and contest so as we do with the Powers of the world though others are ignorant of the Covenant O.P. Nay I tell you I know you well enough and I know your principles though you are but a young man yet you have been in many places and are known well enough Ro. Yea I am so I hope known of Christ too and amongst other places I have been in the Field too against the common enemies that are now gotten so high again where I think I have done more for nothing in meere conscience for the Lord Christs sake never seeking wages as your mercenary men than any of your Colonels can say * Raising men arming himself and others ingaging in the field in England and Ireland spending his estate Killing his cattel for the Army freely exposing his person to great dangers freely O.P. You talk of that is nothing to the purpose Kiffen I cannot see my Lord there will be any danger to have those papers read we desired to hear how it appears that Mr. Ro. suffers as an Evil doer and if it please your Highnesse let those informations be read that are brought in there that we may hear how it appears as your Highnesse sayes O.P. Ah! so I say let them be read Ro. My Lord Which Gentleman was Mr. Kiffen who since with some of his Members hath slandered him behind his back that Gentleman spake very smoothly but we know now by experience the greatest Snares are couched under the smoothest words so there is a great Snares in his for he desires them to be read that they may judge therby whether I be an Evil-doer or not so that I thank the Gentleman for his charity he seems beforehand resolved to judge me according to them whther right or wrong true or false or whatever they be and whoever informs and whether they can be proved or no against me but I perceive by him he is some mercenary man that hath some dependence upon you and from such I look for no other But the most my Lord that can be said against me is but an evil speaker which by Gods assistance I trust in this matter shall never be proved against me neither and not an Evil doer for not withstanding your former words I can prove that the very heathens themselves abhorred to make words matter of fact as you do O.P. It is matter of fact you are questioned for Mark it out of his own mouth for speaking evil of Authority raising false accusations or if they were as Nero you are not to speak evil of them for what hath the Devil his Name for but because he is an accuser of the Brethren and it is not for your good deeds that you are punished for what saith Christ for which of my good deeds do you punish me and so you say but you shall hear if these be read whether it be for your good deeds or for evil-doing Ro. And as they answered Christ then so do you us it was not for his good deeds they would stone him but for his blasphemy and so pretended to do it legally for the Law would have a blasphemer stoned but that which they called blasphemy was indeed the truth and good and so it is now what you call evil is good and the Devil my Lord hath his name from calumniating slandering and lying and

The Faithfull NARRATIVE OF The late Testimony and Demand made to Oliver Cromwel and his Powers on the Behalf of the LORDS PRISONERS In the Name of the Lord Jehovah Jesus Christ King of Saints and Nations Published by Faithful hands Members of Churches out of the original Copies to prevent mistakes and misreports thereupon To the Faithful Remnant of the Lamb who are in this Day of great Rebuke and Blasphemy ingaged against the BEAST and his GOVERNMENT especially to the New Non-Conforming Churches and Saints in City and Country commonly called by the Name of Fifth Monarchy-men Numb 16.5 Even to morrow the Lord will shew who are his and who is holy and will cause him to come near to him even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near to him therefore take you Censers c. Gen. 42.16 And ye shall be kept in Prison that your words may be proved Printed in the year 1654. To the little Remnant of the Lamb against the Beast and his Government Some may wonder what we mean the meanest of all the flock to be so publick and it may be our Dearest Brethren the Lords prisoners at Lambeth Windsor and elsewhere but they know Necessity by experience is the most absolute plea now up and a prevalent Argument to all parties interest and purposes good and bad we wonder the Heathens worship her for a Goddesse for she doth great things now adayes too in England but we leave the Heathenish Necessity or Court craft-Principle and to take up the Heavenly Necessity or Conscience-Principle which they explode They themselves who use to create necessities for themselves have created some for us too by their ordinary or rather extraordinary disease amongst them viz. the flux of words and running Fistula of Lyes or blasphemies of abominable savour Our faces blush whilst our hearts turn within us at the whorish Impudence and Imprudence of such politick State-Professours who with their Stage-Devotion dare blaspheme the name of Christ to make Lyes their Refuge as they do at this day We had interded this following Discourse for all us should have lain a while in silence had not some who thought us and this fast asleep sought to murder and cut the throat of the truth and of this Testimony with their notoriously false and oblique Reports but that they may see the Truth though like the two witnesses for three years and a half may lie for slain yet it shall rise again and stand upon its feet yea in such a manner with life from God as will put all the Time-servers to their trumps too and throw this self-seeking Generation of pitiful Muck-worms mercenary carnal and Court affected professours into a pannick fear and ague agony-fit ere long but in the interim Truth is sweet to us because it is Gods not ours and the more it is persecuted we entertain it and trust through grace to live and die with it because the Kings Christs image is upon it though Cesars be not nor will it take the grosse impression of the present Army for the metal is too good to take the stamp of Apostates Therefore with all tendernesse candidnesse and faithfulnesse without respect to any one man more than another and meerely for the poore-persecuted Truths-sake whose sighs and cryes and grones and tears by reason of those unsupportable injuries inhumane abuses and violences offered her have pierced our hearts and prevailed with us whether we will or no or rather we think we may say the spirit of Christ in us to this faithfull Publication those passages in Isa 59.14 and 13,14,15,16 being often repeated in our minds to wit viz None calleth for Justice nor any pleadeth for the truth they all trust in vanity and speak lies they conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity they batch cockatrice egges and weave spiders webs c. In transgressing and Lying against the Lord and departing away from our God speaking oppression and revolt conceiving and uttering from the heart words of Falshood and Judgement is turned away backward and Justice standeth afar off for truth is fallen in the street and equity cannot enter yea the truth faileth and be that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey and the Lord saw it and it displeased him that there was no Judgement And he saw that there was no man and wondered that there was no intercessour therefore his arm brought salvation unto him and his righteousnesse it sustained him c. But besides other Reasons should we be longer silent the three following would fall foully upon us 1. For that some of Satans Surrogates the Court Pensioners and Pamphleters have let fly many filthy lyes and false reports about City and Country to possesse them with prejudicate apprehensions and mis-informations about us For it is Machiavils principle and Court policy as soon as their false reports are given against the truth by mercenary creatures to second the charge and make way for their Masters to fall upon the bones of the truths Abbettors and Fautors This we finde State-policy in all Histories and Ages and the practise of proud Tyrants Pedagogues and persecutors first creating lyes against the Saints and then bringing them into sufferings when once they had made them sufficiently odious so that no eye might pity them thus Isaiah was reported for a lyer Jeremiah a traitor Daniel a rebel Christ a blasphemer Paul a pestilent fellow the Apostles stirers up of sedition and preachers of new laws and doctrine and such as would subvert all Magistracy and Ministry laws and Customs and all then present This principle and practice is revived again under this Government Nero like to inrobe the faithfullest of the assertors of the truth and testimony of Jesus with Bear-skins then to bait them with their Mastiffs or Blood hounds like men that will report their dogs mad when they have a mind to hang them so doubtlesse the lyes raised against the poor Saints trampled upon and traduced now every where especially the Lords prisoners Mr. Feak M. Rogers and others c. are precursory to some base if not bloody designe against them Therefore it is they give out that they are railers lyers stirrers up of sedition and tumults enemies to Government Magistracy Ministry and Laws and Evill-doers and what not as Persecutors use to do of old What is pretended against Mr. Rogers may appear in what follows who refused to make a full or formal reply without it were in an open Court by a just and legall tryall according to honest and known laws Therefore and for no other reason as he declared to them in our hearing was it that he declined to Answer and not because he was non-plust not able or afraid to answer or the like as the Court-creatures who have made it their imployment for some dayes to blaze lyes about have most wickedly and untruly reported but the truth is they all seem to be given up over head and ears into strong lyes and delusions For

given a banner to them that fear thee that it may be displayed because of the truth Selah Besides we do not as the Court-Christians set our Diall by the Clocks of the time for so both would go false but rather set the Clocks that strike now adayes by the Dials of truth and according to the Testimony of good Consciences and then the Sunne that is now risen with glorious rayes lustre and appearance in this age will show us the time of the day and what we have to do like the Children of Issachar 1 Chron. 12.32 to keep all True and to make the Clocks and Dials to center in one period of hour and time As Christ our Sun appears we hope to appear with him and to rise with him and shine with him and sit with him on thrones to Judge those that have and do Judge us every day Jude 14 15. Rev. 20.4 though this be their day yet we are sure to have our day to Judge them and then that question they are so cranck in shall be put out of question viz. whether we are busie-bodies in other mens matters that Christ and his Messengers have nothing to do with or in Christs matters that all true Christians have and ought to have to do with all that are followers of the Lamb and for which matters of Christ and all Saints against the Beast our dear Brethren are so barbarously abused persecut●d plundered and imprisoned and for which we with them through the grace of our Lord Jesus are resolved to stand whether by life or by death And this we are sure of by experience however they unworthily censure us as a blind man would not believe there was a Sun because he saw it not though some effects might have convinced him so some effects we hope in the Lord shal lere long convince them that we suffer for the pure Testimony of a good conscience and meerly for Christ and his Interest and not for any man Men Thing or Interest whatsoever that is on Earth This conscience feasts us with very excellent viands from above which we believe no caterer in the Court can provide their Great Masters withal but theirs is like to have but sowr Sawce though it be out-landish-like as when Chirurgions open the dead bodies of Epicures they find many indigested crudities so will the Ancient of dayes ere long when he sits to anatomize dissect and rip up their Consciences find many a foul crudity viz. the sculs blood and bones of thousands of the Saints to stick there But the Lord have mercy upon them for the Plague is begun if they be not past recovery or true Repentance But if they be then the Righteous and Holy just God who is our God will appear against them and their interest speedily powerfully and effectually according to all the Faith Tears and Appeals of his poor Worm Jacob in whose hand we believe will be the New threshing Instrument visibly are long And then this contemptible testimony or course Barley-Cake of Truth will tumble from the Gideon Campe and smite down all their Tents according to the Faith and Prayer of Christ's and his poore Remnants despised Servants To do or to suffer to live or to die with them in this most glorious though clouded precious though Persecuted Cause of CHRIST JESUS Hur Horton Christopher Crayle Hugh Day Edward Grove John Pugh John Durden Samuel Bradley William Bragg William Medley Francis Young James Wilson Daniel Ingoll List up a Banner upon the high mountain exalt the voice unto them shake the hand that they may go into the Gates of the Nobles I have commanded my sanctified ones I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger even them that rejoyce in my Highnesse Isa 13.2,3 A faithfull Narrative to the faithful Remnant round the Nation the new Non-conformist-Churches and Saints in City and Countrey that go under the name of fifth Monarchy-men THE Hope we have of fair weather arises from the Rainbow in the Cloud though the Cloud be black the Sun is up and looks ●ull upon it which hath produced divers colours put the poore Saints hard upon faith grones and prayers to make up that tremendous Judgement and dreadful Thunderbolt that must fall out of this black Cloud and which begins to rattle already over the heads of the present Persecutors as Rev. 4. and the 5. From the throne of the Lamb goeth thunders and voyces so in Chapter 8 and the 5. The Angel cast the Censer for he was before the throne full of fire and incense viz. the Faith and Prayers of the poore persecuted Saints into the earth and there were voices and thunderings and lightnings and an Earthquake chap. 16.18 and 19.6 and it is well known the new Non-Conformists round the nation are at it day and night c. filling this Censer full and before the Throne giving the Lord no rest and though many have been as dead as dry bones yet they begin to gather Sinews apace now and are like may we speak it without Alaraming the New Court to be an exceeding great Army for the witnesses are warm and begin to stir and benummed senses by use get life apace so that the Remnant of the womans Seed are like to have their hands full Ere long and long they think it among them are those despised ones of the Lord that walk in fellowship with Mr. Rogers now prisoner for the Testimony of Jesus at Lambeth who after several solemn dayes and whole nights did find it a present duty incumbent upon them and preparative to future to go to Whitehall the revived Court and demand the Lords prisoners and bear their Testimony against these in present powers for their grosse sins and Apostacies which the whole Body agreed unto not one dissenting with a loud Suffrage of Joy and alacrity blessing the Lord that they should be honoured by the Lord Jesus as to be called to this Testimony for his suffering Truth and Saims at this day They sought the Lord earnestly two whole nights herein though the first night they were disturbed by some rude abusive Ruffians that seemed Zealots for their Protector they roughly handled scurrilously miscalled and abused some of the Brethren that they hurried them away from Prayer to prison for night-prayers are reputed dangerous and disturbful to the Court interest yet for all that they kept another night to have directions from the throne in the management of so high and noble a Message and that they might not in the least dishonour the dear name of the Lord Jehovah nor the cause and Kingdome of Jesus Christ that now suffers So after they found much of Gods presence and many sweet promises to apply and concluded unanimously upon the number of twelve which is the Lambs number against the Beast and the Root and square number of the hundred fourty four thousand in Rev. 14. to deliver the Message in trust to Oliver Cromwel in person in the name of the great

be clear before I can proceed further for if they petitioned I have done and dare not answer a word on that ground because I represent thousands of the poore Saints who are one with me in this cause whose Trust I cannot I dare not betray O.P. Then we have done for I tell you you came here by adesire I told them I would put it to the issue this meeting and that I would prove it you suffered for evil-doing Ro. That will not be so easily done But my Lord I speak as I hope I am a civil man and in some measure a rational man and I trust through grace I am a Christian nor doth Christianity destroy civility and yet I must say again that I care hither by the Desire or Request of my friends I shall not I will not speak a word any farther than to tell you my reasons For I would not have any friend petition for me where in and to whom I cannot with a good conscience petition for my self now in the matters of faith and truth for which we suffer we cannot petition to you for we are not Debtors to man but to God who is the Law giver and only proper judge therein and therefore we petition to the Lord Jehovah our Judge then 2. If they did so they did not answer the trust the Church whereto they are related reposed in them for it was set upon their hearts as an incumbent point of duty to Christ and his Churches to make Demand of the Lords prisoners in the name of the Lord Jesus whom you and your powers have so unchristianly and indeed with worse than Roman Tyranny rent and torn from the Churches so that if they made a petition to you I am silent and shall say no more as I said before B.C. One of the Twelve I shall lay open the whole state of the businesse for we are intrusted with a Message from our Society and did but according to our trust make the Demand and bear our Testimony and made no request at all to you but when you said our Brother Rogers suffered as an evil-doer we said then why do you not make it appear and you said you would on Friday or Tuesday and this was all O.P. Well! Who sayes it is more who sayes you Petitioned I told you he suffered as an evill doer as a Railer as a Seducer Ro. But your words are not proofs my Lord but yet seeing my way is more clear now I shall say somewhat more there is no law of God nor yet of man that makes me such an Offender But yours which is worse than the Roman Law and Tyranny that makes a man a * See their Ordinance for Treason Traitor for words O.P. Who cals you a Traitor I call you not see I believe you speak many things according to the Gospel but you suffer for evil-doing Ro. The Gospel of the Kingdome may occasionable be so accounted and judged for as Christ our Saviour saith I came not to send peace but the sword the doctrine of Christ by the powers of the world hath ever been reputed sedition railing lying and speaking evill of dignities O.P. I grieve that you call this the gospel for every one is ready to come and say this is the gospel with words in their mouths and say this is the meaning of the Scripture but there wants the power of godlinesse for Christ and his Disciples will not speak evill of no man Ro. Yea they did speak against sinners as sinners which is no evill speaking But who made you the Judge of the Scriptures my bord what ever you say it shall never appear I trust to the Saints or unbyased discerning men that I suffer as an evill doer what ever you say or suppose I can make it appear it is an essential Fundamental Principle of Faith which is now under Persecution What the testimony is they suffer in and for which we suffer viz. The Kingly Office of Christ and those that deny that truth for in which we suffer are indeed Hereticks and not we It is true this present testimony for Christs Kingly Interest hath two parts viz. The Positive and the Privative now for the last it is we suffer and not for evil-doing O.P. Why who will hinder you Preaching the Gospel of Christ yea How knows be that for he hears him not preach his Personal Raign who will hinder you speak of high Nations but you do not preach the gospel to build up souls in Christ Ro. I know my Lord that you are a Sophister * With that the Officers and them present scoffed some gnashed with their teeth at the Prisoner and so it seems for a part of the truth we may preach but not the whole not the Gospel of the kingdom preached for a Witnesse as Mat. 24.14 to witnesse against the crying sins of men in power or out of power for that seems to strike at your Interest too much O.P. Why what interest is mine Ro. A worldly interest which God will destroy O.P. Ha! and do you judge me Ro. Yea by the word of the Lord in the maj●sty might strength power vigour life and Authority of the Holy Ghost I can do and dare Judge you and your actions 1 Cor. 2. The spiritual man jugdeth all things whilest he himself is judged of no man Besides I am called by the Holy Ghost which hath appointed me to preach the Gospel to judge sins O.P. And who will hinder you to preach the Gospel or to do so speak against Sin as much as you will Ro. You do from preaching that part of the Gospel which decries the publike sins of the times or of men in Powers Armies c. neither is it as you say a rayling lying or speaking evill of dignities for the word rayling in Jude 9. is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 now this is no blasphemy to speak the truth or against evils nor is it railing to call a man as he is to call a drunkard a drunkard is no rayling to call a Whore-master What sort of informers will serve against 5th Monarchy-men a Whore-master is no rayling to call a Thief a Thief to call an Apostate an Apostate is no rayling but to call one so that is not so is rayling O.P. To call an honest man a thief is rayling to call an honest man a Whore-master is rayling though I do know you have truths of Christ in you yet I will prove you suffer for rayling lying and as a raiser of sedition and I told them that I would have you sent * He said there was no such word in his Speech but see it p. 13. It is some satisfaction if a Common-wealth must perish that it perish by men and not by the hands of persons speaking of the plotters differing little from beasts for to satisfie them Ro. If that you say can be made to appear it is fit I should suffer but as Reygnold said Nihil