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A65842	A brief discovery of the dangerous principles of John Horne (a priest in Lin) and Thomas Moore junior both teachers of the people called Mooreians or Manifestarians, (and called by some free-willers or independants.) In answer to their book called A brief discovery of the people called Quakers, and a warning to all people to beware of them and of their dangerous principles, &c. Which book is a false narrative of two disputes, the one which they had with John Whitehead at Gedney in Lincoln-shire, and the other with Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger, at Lin in Norfolke, both in the seventh moneth, 1659. Also priest Horns testimony against his brethren the priests. This is to go amonst the professors in England in discovery of the truth; ... By the truth which is in George Whitehead. John Whitehead. George Fox the younger.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Whitehead, John, 1630-1696. aut; Fox, George, d. 1661. aut	1659 (1659)	Wing W1896; ESTC R220960	30,510	44

in one Nature and it is not safer for the Sheep as ye have falsely said to abide with the one then the other for neither of them cares for the Sheep no further then to make a prey upon them and all such we bear a Testimony against being redeemed out of their Nature and it is the will of Christ that his sheep should leave the hirelings for they care not for the Sheep and that they should follow him and hear his voice and Christs sheep do so they hear Christs voice who have called them from the Hirelings and Strangers and their voices they will not regard And such as Christ sends to feed his Sheep in the Pastors of Israel they are no Hirelings as ye foolishly imagine but they have freely received and they freely give and such are not greedy of filthy lucre neither do they rèceive Tithes by a corrupt unjust Law made by Apostates as thou John Horn dost but they do what they do of a willing and a ready mind and are not hired to it for a certain sum but such if they have not of their own may and do receive Food and Rayment of such as receive them and their Testimony and this is according to the Apostles Doctrine and is owned and practised amongst us the Servants of the Lord called Quakers whom ye in your rayling lying accusations liken unto Foxes and Wolves but your words shall become your own burthen and with the Spirit of the Lord we see you in the devouring beastly Nature which the Lord is against and will rent J. Horn T. Moor the people are too generally guilty too and lay themselves open to these delusions and deluders because too generally they neglect Christ and his Truth take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulnesse formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things by which means they are in danger to perish whether they keep out of these mens snares or falls into them howbeit they are exposed to their snares thereby because they afford the deceivers matter to work upon can find many faults in them many things to accuse them of though some things that God never charged them with before these men came set themselves Masters but in many things really evil they have too great advantage and mens consciences by the effect of the law in them which is not Christ bearing witnesse that they say true in those things that they fault them in Answ. Here it is manifest by your own words that ye are the false Prophets that have not profited the people that notwithstanding all your Preachings the people still neglect Christ and his Truth and take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulness formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things and are in danger to perish whether they come after us or not as ye confess so it is clear to all that have any understanding that ye have not stood in the Counsel of God for if you had then you should have turned the people that had received your Doctrine from the evil of their way and from the evil of their doings Ier. 23. but People have long received you and your Doctrine and yet live in their evil wayes Therefore be ashamed and stop your mouths ye Hypocrites who also speaks against covetousnesse pride and vanitie in apparel in the People and of their neglect of Christ and his Truth when many of you their Teachers are found in covetousnesse Pride and vanity in apparel wearing your Cuffs and Ribbands and White Boot-hose-tops and Teaching for Tithes and Gifts and Rewards and most of these in particular thou Iohn Horn art guilty of and in the twentieth page of your Book ye confesse your selves to be guilty of the neglect of Christ the salvation of God and the abuse of his truth so here it is plain that wherein ye have judged others ye have condemned your selves Rom. 2. 1. and made it appear that you are like Priests like People Hos. 4. 9. and we whom the Lord have redeemed out of the vanity and wickednesse of this world do judge you for your wickednesse and bear our Testimony against it in that which hath redeemed us from it and although we are counted by you to be deceivers when we judge you for your wickednesse yet the Lord owns our judging of you because it is in that which answereth the effect of his Righteous Law in mens consciences which beareth witnesse that we speak true as you our enemies are made to confesse And it was the Ministers of Christ that were manifested to Peoples consciences in the sight of God and not the deceivers for the effect of the Law in people where it was witnessed or was did not nor do not cause their consciences to bear witness to the deceivers Doctrine but against it so it is manifest that you judge contrary to the effect of the Law who have judged them to be deceivers whom mens consciences by the effect of the Law in them beareth witnesse unto And the Law in men which witnesseth unto the truth and against sin is light and it is the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Christ Jesus which freeth those that believe and walk in it from the power of sin and death but those that believe not in it but hate it it beareth witness against them and their evil deeds and remains their condemnation and it is you that have set your selves masters and not we who exercise Lordship one over another and have mens persons in admiration and respect mens persons and calls and are called of men Masters contrary to Christs Doctrine but we although we be the Lords free men yet we are become servants unto many in the truth Ministring and labouring for the gathering of the scattered Seed John Horn Thomas Moore They to get a partie as the Jesuits do exposing themselves to some abuses and sufferings from the rude people make themselves more like Chri●is Ministers to the simple people Answ. We indeed suffer much for righteousness sake and for bearing our testimony against unrighteousness and you who are Teachers oft causeth our sufferings to be the greater by your lying and railing against us thereby stirring up the rude people to abuse us even as your forefathers the Priests and Pharisees did who stirred up the rude people against our Master Christ and his servants in former dayes for which the Lord will assuredly reward you in righteousness But we will in all things approve our selves as the Ministers of God in much patience in affliction in necessitie in distresses in stripes in imprisonments in tumults c. 2 Cor. 6 and our lives are not dear unto us but are freely given up to serve the living God in spreading his living truth and it is for no other end God is our witness though ye wickedly judge otherwise And then John Horn and Thomas Moore goes about to shew the cause why and how the

equivocal terms Answ. They have changed G. Foxes words for he said That which is raised is a spiritual body and that which is raised was dead and we answered them plainly to these things according to the Scriptures but like fools whom the Apostle reproved they would not be satisfied when we told them it is sown a natural body it is raised a spiritual body and receives life and spirit by the Power of God there is a natural body and there is a spiritual body howbeit that was not first which is spiritual but that which is natural and afterward that which is spiritual so the Apostle distinguisheth between the natural body and the spiritual body between the earthly bodies and the heavenly bodies and the glories of each and doth not say that which dyes or is sown which is earthly shall rise as we told these said accusers according to the Apostles comparison thou fool that which thou sowest is not quickned except it dye and that which thou sowest thou sowest not that body that shall be mark thou sowest not that body that shall be but bear grain it may chance of wheat or of some other grain 1 Cor. 15. 36 37. contrary to which they have affirmed that the same body that dyes or is sown in the earth shall raise again when the Apostle saith thou sowest not that body that shall be and his comparison is of the grain of wheat and the like to which Thomas Moor answered That the same kirnel of wheat rose up again in the blade when it is known that the same kirnel doth not rise but another body or ear of Corn grows forth in the nature of that wch is sown yet we say that God giveth a body as it pleaseth him to every seed his own body which seeds being known the nature and kind of each seed discerned the body of each may be discerned in the Resurrection by the light wch crosseth mens carnal imaginations by which they must never know the Mystery of the Resurrection of the bodies nor the seeds wch the Lord knoweth how to reserve every one in its own center and habitation till the sounding of the last Trumpet at the last day and there shall be a Resurrection both of the just and the unjust and many that sleep in the dust of the earth shall rise some shall come forth to the Resurrection of life and others to the Resurrection of Condemnation every one to be rewarded according to their works and John said The Sea gave up the dead which were in it and death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them they were Judged every man according to their works death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life Rev. 2. And now this being an answer to their Question about the Resurrection note that when Thomas Moor was asked what was the seed of which the Apostle said God giveth it a body as it pleaseth him Tho. Moor answered that the seed was the body that dyes or is laid in the ground which he pleaded for the rising of to which it was Replyed then that every man must rise with two bodies if that body that is terrestrial must rise and have another body given it but herein his ignorance was seen and again he and John Horn have confuted themselves for in their Post-script they say That the Apostle implying plainly that the raised body in the Resurrection shall not be flesh and blood Then how is it that they have pleaded so much for the same earthly body that dies to rise again which is a body of flesh and blood when the raised body in the Resurrection is not a body of flesh and blood they say these men are much shut up in Babylon as their confusion manifests An accusation of John Horn and Tho. Moor against John Whitehead to prove him a Reprobate p. 6. Is that John argued against the Redemption of the body to be waited for or expected after death and said The Apostle had it before the death of the body and in p. 10. They tell of the nature or being of man that in the Resurrection it is discharged of sin and Law and death Answ. So here they expect not the Redemption of the body nor their discharge from sin till after death wherein they have discovered themselves to be Reprobates and not John Whitehead and their expecting the Redemption of the body to be waited for after death is contrary to the Saints expectations for they waited and groaned for the Redemption of the body from under corruption when they were upon earth and the Creature it self was to be brought into the glorious liberty of the Sons of God which state was witnessed by as many as were led by the Spirit of God who were sanctified throughout in Body in Soul and Spirit and put not Redemption afar off till after death as these men aforementioned have done Again They have accused us for Antichristians from a passage in Edward Burroughs Book where it is said That Christ is to be known after the Spirit as he was before the world was and that is the knowledge of him which is to eternal Salvation On the contrary they have affirmed in page 7. That the knowledge of Christ after the Spirit as he was before the world was is not the knowledge of him to eternal Salvation but on the contrary they say Answ. In this they have shewed themselves to be both abusers of the Truth and Antichristians for to know Christ as he is the power of God is to know him after the Spirit as he was before the world was and this is the knowledge of him to Eternal Salvation it is the Power of God that saveth and we trust in the living God who is the Saviour of all men specially of them that believe 1 Tim. 4. 10. Now as Christ is the living God he was before the world was and we are in him that is true even in his Son Jesus Christ this is the true God and eternal life 1 John 5. 20. And now I say they that receive this knowledge of Christ do not deny his knowledge in his flesh but witness to the same eternal Power that was manifest in his flesh and thorow his sufferings which Power was before the world was and hath the same glory that it had then and is the same for ever And in page 7. it is said against the Quakers That they can and may in their canting language say he is manifest in England and is persecuted and dyes and rises as well as in Judea and Jerusalem however they make nothing of his being born suffering and dying in the flesh Answ. Now when J. Horn and T. Moor can truly prove nothing against us called Quakers they have invented these wicked lyes against us which we utterly deny and here charge them for forgers of lyes Job 13. 4. for we never

Conscience he is departed so blush and be ashamed of your lyes for in like manner did a false Priest in Cambridge belye us in a lying Pamphlet with the very same thing In Page 20. you John Horn and Thomas Moore have accused James Nayler with his discovering more fully the mysterie of Deceit in his Book called Love to the Lost in saying That the Seed to which the Promise was made and which few know is a certain Seed or Principle in man desiring to follow after God and to be free from sin Reply Here you are seen to be ignorant of the Seed of God and enemies to it in his People which Seed is Christ and where-ever he is known in such a low measure as a Seed that suffers and is burthened in man by corruption there he desires to be free from the burthen of sin and alwayes to do his Fathers will and this Seed the power reaches to where it is begotten and in the power it arises in them that believe in the light for their Redemption and the Apostle travelled again for the Galatians until Christ was formed in them who first is known as one without form or comliness and so the seed of God suffers in some and in others it reigns and is known to be Prince of Peace and this is no Mystery of Deceit as you say but a mystery that hath discovered your Deceit who know not the Seed of the Kingdom nor the power wherein it rises and have you never known what Christ is without the Camp But before you who are neglecters of Christ and abusers of his truth can know the Seed of God and what it is in you you must come to the light which will condemn you for your Deceits and Lyes with which you have abused the Truth and then learn to know what and where the grave is which Christ hath made with the Wicked J. Horn and T. Moore in Page 20. saith But I shall adde no more but only desire People to beware of them as a heavy judgement of God that he hath ordered to us to punish us for our neglect of Christ the Salvation of God and the Truth of him so long abused by us Answ. Here you have made manifest your selves indeed ye Hypocrites what have ye been crying out of the Quakers calling them deceivers and warning the people to beware of them and Writing against them and judging them to be in delusion and error when ye your selves neglect Christ the Salvation of God and have long abused his Truth as ye are made to confess consider your own Conditions ye are in great delusion and error your selves who neglect Christ the Salvation of God and have long abused his Truth and ye are not like neither can ye bring people to Christ the Salvation of God and his Truth who are neglectors of Christ Gods Salvation and his Truth your selves Therefore people had need take heed and beware of following you lest ye lead them to neglect Christ the Salvation of God and to abuse his Truth more and more you are the Hypocrites that are not to judge whose beam is yet in your own eyes for wherein ye judge others for error and delusion ye condemn your selves ye being such as ye confess that neglect Christ the Salvation of God and abuse his Truth and if we be as ye say a Judgment ordered of God to punish you for your neglect of Christ the Salvation of God and the Truth of him so long abused by you Why do you not then bear the Judgment of God more patiently seeing ye have sinned so against him in abusing his Truth and in neglecting Christ the Salvation of God Why do you rage so against Gods Judgment Here all People may see That ye are not satisfied nor content with what God hath ordered unto you for your neglect of Christ the Salvation of God and the Truth of him so long abused by you but we shall yet be a heavier Judgment upon you for we are a burthensome-Stone to all the ungodly and the more ye strive against us the greater will be your Torment therefore give over your Teaching of others and be ashamed of your blindness and wickedness and repent and cease striving and raging against the Truth of God and us his People for the more ye strive against us and the Truth which we live in and are Witnesses of which Truth is Christ who also is in us which is the Riches of the Mysterie which hath been hid from Ages and Generations but is now revealed in the Saints by the light Mark the greater will be your Judgment and burthen and this ye shall witness to be true so abuse Gods Truth no longer neither neglect Christ the Salvation of God as ye have done but submit to Gods Judgment and learn to prize Christ the Salvation of God and his Truth and believe therein and fight no longer against the Lord and his Truth and Servants lest he shorten your dayes and cut you off So remember you are warned whether you will hear or forbear John Horn and Thomas Moore And indeed the cause of then prevalency is partly in the Teachers and partly in the people Answ. The cause of our prevailing is not in man but in God even the mighty powerful prefence of the Lord which doth accompany us whereby we reach the faithful Witness of God in people which answereth to the Truth of God declared by us and thereby many are turned from darknesse to light and from Satans power unto God and we must prevail more and more for the Lord is opening peoples eyes and he will teach them himself and many people begins to see the deceipt and wickedness of such Teachers as ye are who abuse Gods Truth and neglect Christ the Salvation of God and although you have a form of godliness and have stoln many true words yet many people sees you to be out of the power and fighters against it and them that be in it and so they will turn away from you and all that sets themselves against us shall fall before us for the Lord is with us and takes our part See J. Horn's Testimony against his Brethren the Priests John Horn Thomas Moore pag. 20 21. Too many of the Teachers are such as Isaiah speakes of Isa. 56. 1● 11 12. his Watchmen which should watch for the good of men are too generally blind the Vision of all the Preaching of the Cross of Christ is a sealed Book to them they are ignorant they are dumb Dogs that cannot bark to give warning of these Beasts or to set themselves to discover and detect them sleeping in their security and lying down loving to slumber to take their ease and peace and to content themselves with Dreams instead of searching out Truth and giving it forth to the People yea they are Dogs strong to appetite greedy Dogs hunting after Livings and Maintenances more Means and so never have enough too many of them Shepherds that

people are overcome and led captive by the Quakers and say John Horn Thomas Moore It s through their own carelesness and formality or also through their Teachers they are not so instructed as to be able to examine and discern them Through their carelesness and weakness therethrough in their understanding of the things of God and conceiting themselves to know and be able to judge and discern of spirits they neglect the helpfulness and gifts of brethren as also the advice of their Teachers and instructors that have the oversight of them and spoken to them the Word of the Lord Answ. Oh be ashamed to see what a bad crop is brought forth what have you been Teachers so long and taking peoples mony for this that notwithstanding they have owned you and your Doctrine and followed you so long that yet they should bring forth no better fruits then these as carelesness and formality and conceitedness and neglect and weakness in understanding the things of God ye have sown but to the fleshly part and that 's the cause you have such a corrupt crop And now we see your Kingdom is near falling who are accusing your fellow Teachers for not instructing the people so as to be able to examine and discern us and the people are led captive already who brings forth such bad fruits as these and had you spoken the Word of the Lord to them and they had believed it surely they would have brought forth better fruits but because you have but stoln from your neighbours much of what you have spoke and added your own imaginations thereto and hath run but the Lord hath not sent you that is the cause you have not profited the people though you have believed what you have spoke and have contended much for your Doctrine yet ye receiving it not from the Lord it was without life and power and so was not effectual to the people John Horn Thomas Moore Oh that all both Ministers and people would yet be awakened to search and try our wayes and to make straight steps to our goings Answ. Yes ye had need to be awakned indeed for it is manifest that ye both Teachers and people have been asleep in the night of thick darkness and you have brought forth night works neglecting Christ the salvation of God and abusing his tru●h taking no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulness formality covetousness pride and vanity in apparrel and many other things and Teachers not instructing people so as they might be able to examine and discern such as come unto them Ye sluggish Shepherds who are yet to be awakened what have you taken peoples mony and goods for all this time was it for your sleeping and dreaming awake awake ye sluggards and own the light of Christ which he hath enlightned you withal and that will shew you your dreaming and the deeds of the night and that will teach you to make straight steps to your goings and to search and try your wayes John Horn Thomas Moore Look to your selves whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the Doctrine of Christ hath not God he that abideth in the Doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son Answ. Then it is manifest that you Thomas Moore and John Horn have not God and out of your own mouths ye shall be Judged for in the 20. pag. of your Book you speak of the heavy Judgement of God that he hath ordered to you to punish you for your neglect of Christ the Salvation of God and the truth of him so long abused by you now it is plain to any that have any true understanding that such as neglect Christ the Salvation of God and abuse his truth that they transgresse and abide not in the Doctrine of Christ and this you have confessed your selves to be guilty of and now your blindness and folly and confusion and wickedness is discovered by the spirit and wisdom of God which abideth in us who abide in the Doctrine of Christ and have both the Father and the Son Many more of your lies and slanders and confusion we could shew you in your Book but that they are not worth the mentioning And think not with your selves that because we reckon not up the rest of your accusations and railing against us that therefore we consent to them as truth for we know that the Lord God will judge and punish you for your perverting the truth and your railing against us and slandering and belying us called Quakers as you have done both in your Book and in many Papers of John Hornes that were posted up against us in Lin and this know that the Lord God of power hath by his mighty power and wisdom armed us to make War against you and to manifest your deceits who are found to be forgers of lyes and deceivers and in enmity against the living truth of God and the longer you proceed therein against us and the truth witnessed by us the more will you be confounded and your folly made manifest that so the honest hearted will begin to loath you and you had better have put your mouths in the dust and been silent then to have blasphemed against the truth of God and against his people as you have done leave your hypocrisie and deceit wherewith you blind the people and feed them no longer with your dreams lyes and stoln dead words least the Lord cut you off in your iniquity for a time of withering is already come upon you And as for you who are the Hearers of the said John Horn and Thomas Moor our Souls pitty you knowing you are under a vail of thick darkness and bondage as we can no otherwise conclude seeing your leaders are tryed and found so much in ignorance and confusion and we wish rather then you would remain under their darkness and deceits that you would come back to the witness of God which hath in many of you been often moving but often hath been quenched through yielding to the sleights and deceits of men and striving to get more into knowledge then into the life and power and now you are but feeding death and seeking the living among the dead while ye go to them for help who are out of the power of God in their own imaginations wherein they are confounded and if ever you come to the Fathers House and there to find the spiritual nourishment you must first return to the light of the Lord in you which you have transgressed and grieved when often it hath appeared against your ungodliness And we would not have you think much against us because we have here dealt plainly by your Teachers in discovering them for we were first occasioned to give forth this because of their false railing book against us or else we had not thus appeared in publick against them and compare this and their book together and you may soon see if you read them sincerely how deservedly we have dealt by them more then they have by us for we sent Queries to John Horn and Thomas Moor in manuscript for them to answer not expecting they would have wronged us as they have done in Print And therefore if they in like manner do again proceed against us in Print we purpose in the Lord further to have their deceits discovered publickly that the truth which is professed and dearly owned by us may be cleared and its enemies have the fruits of their own doings Post-script AND seeing that ye called Moorians hold forth That flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God yet flesh and bones may we ask you these Questions If Elijahs flesh and bones could enter into Gods Kingdom when he was taken up and if his blood could not then when and where and how and by whom was his blood taken and separated from his flesh and bones And what is become of his blood And what is it that hinders the blood that it may not enter into Gods Kingdom as well as the flesh and bones which ye say may Is the transgression of the blood greater then the transgression of the flesh and bones And shall the flesh and bones be redeemed and delivered from corruption and shall not the blood What is the Cause For although the Lord doth what he please yet doth he do any thing without a Cause And whether do you own that Doctrine that when Christ appeared amongst the Disciples after his Resurrection when the doors were shut John 20. 19. that then his body being spiritualized it glided in at the key-hole of the door Which doctrine Thomas Moor sen hath formerly preached as some hath affirmed who heard him And where do the Scriptures say That flesh and bones may in herit the Kingdom of God And where you John Horn and Thomas Moor in page 16. say That Sathan doubtless may reprove of some sins and press to some duties Now have you not here shewn your selves to be Ministers of Sathan and not of Christ And we ask you what duties or any things that are duties doth Sathan press men to Answer directly or let shame cover you which at length will come upon you for your deceits THE END