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A05571 A copye of a verye fyne and vvytty letter sent from the ryght reuerende Levves Lippomanus by shop of Verona in Italy, and late legate in Polone, from the moste holy and blessed father Pope Paule the Fourth, and from his moste holy sea of Rome translated out of the Italyan language by Michael Throckmerton. Lippomano, Luigi, 1500-1559.; Throckmorton, Michael, d. 1558. 1556 (1556) STC 15693.5; ESTC S107973 7,348 17

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make it suche a Councel as he counsailed laboured to be don at Trēt that is not to here the other parte Your honour with your noble brethern M. Francisce the light of the common welth of Venece and M. Paule made so much of and gaue so muche honor vnto our holy fathers holynes when he was a barefooted Frier at Venece that his holynes beyng most myndfull and thankfull I knowe is desirous also to requite and doo you pleasure agayne Wherfore I hartily beseche your honour let it stande with your pleasure to bestowe one droppe of the fauor that ye are in and cause me to bee rydde out of these troubles and daungers And it may please his holynes to vnderstand that it is to no purpose for me to haue the doyng of thynges here any longer for the greate hatred that I haue already purchased me Let his holynes consyder whether it be better to send one to supply my place or to leue this realme without any Legate which in myne opinion were best bicause he can not be here any longer with honor estimation Moreouer I think that when that shal be done and is done yet these men wil haue it after their owne fantasy and there wyll be a great scisme so that the nobilitie will folow one way and one doctrine and the byshops an other And yet I can tell you not all the byshops for one part of them begyn to halte and a lyttel thyng will make them agree with the Counte Palatine of whom I write and the others But lette his holynes doo as it pleaseth hym in sendynge or not sendyng an other Legate to supply my place so he dispatche me hence that quickly Who can see who can suffer that at the Shroftide disguysynges maskes mummeries of monkes fryers and Cardinals shulde be openly made to the open shame reproche of all the hole order of the Churche as there hath ben here in my time And who can disgest these troubles these villanies and not thynke vppon the daunger of his lyfe Muche good doo it hym surely I aknowlage my selfe to be a manne that can not doo it And I haue no hope that I shal be hable hereafter to do any good here To be playn I haue done as muche as was possible for me to doo to lette the diet and parliamēt that shal be kept at Bartilmew tide But yet notwithstandynge it will procede Neither shal it auaile to wast my braines destroy my body suffring my self to be tost from place to place in Couche in company of the said most reuerende Archbishop thorough all the greater and the lesse Polone and so to haue brought to passe that the noble kyng hath geuen cōmandemēt contrary to the determinacion conclusion of the last parliamēt as I aduertised our holy fathers holynes to the great grudging of the aduersaries Besides I fear lest these felowes shal cause men to come out of Germany specially out of Schwitzerland half a dosin of the greatest clerkes most famous diuines that be ther bicause it is bruted abrode that the Pope mynded to sende of his diuines to this parliament to defend our cause And all be it I haue bothe sayd and earnestly affirmed in euery place that they shulde not thinke that his holynes will euer sende or consent to any such parliament which shal be none other but a nationall councell Yet neuertheles as farre as I can vnderstand they mynd to cause of our enemies diuines of other contreys to come hither Your honour may consider what confections these men wil make and what cōsultations and conclusions they wyll determyne agaynsts vs. God helpe vs for I se the matters be in a very euyll case I recommende me vnto your honor Frō Louitz the .20 of Iuly 56. Your honours seruant Ludouicus Lippomanus byshop of Verona the vnvvorthye Legate Postscripte I Am aboute to make a Conuocation of all the byshoppes and prelates of this Realm and wyll begyn it now in Petricouia Two thinges I hope I shall obteyn there the one to gather a great summe of money and I trust the popes holynes wyll be a contributour vnto it for so hath he put me in hope wherby we may be better able to defend our matters aboue all thynges contentyng theim and stoppynge their mouthes which be importunately busy and make muche troub●●us adoo And we haue ofte proued that this practise is a very good way The seconde that there be some correction of lyfe of the cleargy who to be playne are a very euyl example But the mischief is that the reformation of maners is at this present to lyttell purpose to preserue our high estate and authorite For those cursed Heretikes pretende and crye that the doctrine must be corrected As for example they be not contente that the priestes shulde be honest wyse and discrete but they wyll haue the masse al togither hurled awaye Nother are they contented that the Pope shuld be a modest man and of a vertuous lyfe and that he shuld not receyue money for spiritual thyngs but they wyl that there shoulde be no Pope nother good nor hadde This is the pricke this is the marke they shoote at I say we are in an euyl case The xxij of Iulye The same L. Lippomanus Legate I Haue this daye receaued lettres frō Venece whiche haue encreaced sorowe vpon sorowe For one my very frends wryteth vnto me that the brute of the seruice which I haue don here and of the contencions that I haue founde in these partes chiefly with the sayd Counte Palatine comming to the eares of myne honorable lordes of Venece their honours be very sory complaine and lament of me sayeng that they be afraid least I beyng a Venecian and of the bloud I am of the Alemaines and poleakes will beleue that the lordes of Venece them selues consent to al my doinges wherby thei may hereafter bee partakers of the same hatred that they goe about to stere against the Pope and perhappes at one tyme or at an other of the self same daungers And to saye the truth these men spread abroade very much how because I am a venecian all thynges please the venecians that I do and that I would not doo it if I knewe it shoulde displease their honours To conclude for all respectes for the aduancement of the cause and maters of our holy fathers holynes for not encombring of my lordes of Venece with these mē and for the suretie of my life it shal be wel done to call we away hence I wold gladly haue ben called away by som other meanes and with some other honour but pacience thinges be at such a poynte that I must thinke vpon my lyfe and not vpon honour I shall lacke none hereafter if I can escape hence with life Yet eftsones I commende me vnto your honour The xxii of Iulye The same Levvis Lippomaous Legate
the hole realme it was comonly reported that his lordship agreed with the Lutherians in all pointes And I began to reherse theym vnto him particularly one by one And in the ende I exhorted him to giue ouer leaue these hereticall opinions for otherwise God woulde punisshe hym The truth is I touched all the hole rable of the Lutherans and spake of their doinges as muche as the greate and inwarde hatred I beare them could expresse For in dede ther is none euill but it maye be well spoken of those villaines This lord the Counte Palatine who I thought seinge my letters so true and so wel proued with good reasons shuld haue bene pulled from his practisyng with the Lutherans made me such an answer right honorable M. Petre as Martin Luther him selfe wold not haue done I do not say vnto a man in my state which am neuertheles a minister legate albeit vnworthy of our holy fathers holynesse of his most holy sea of Rome but not to any cōmon person wer he neuer so vile miserable I would haue sent your honour a copy of the same answer but to tell you the truth me thought it wold soūd to our very great shame if it should be redde And therfore I tremble for very feare least by one meanes or other it will he put foorthe in print and perchaūce translated into diuers tongues For I knowe the caste of these heretykes wherwith God is not pleased But it maye please your honour to heare the rest Whan I was in the yeare .1548 ioyned in commission with the most Reuerende than bishop of Fano now worthyly a Cardinal with the Reuerend of good memory Ferentinus our holy fathers nuncio or legate in Germany after the victory that themperor had ouer the protestantes to bryng and recōcile the princis people to the obedience of the sea apostolike for so was the pretēce of our ambassade albeit it succeded not very prosperously we reconciled very few there wer at that tyme prisoners to themperors maiesty Iohn Friderike Duke Curfuster of Saxonie Philip Landtgraue of Hesse Than I with my right reuerend collegues as obedient children accordyng to our instructiōs gaue counsell to themperor and his most noble brother the kyng of Romains that they shuld cause those two princes heades to be openly cut of as the ringleaders and mainteynours of heretikes For by this meanes and with this terrour an ende at length should haue ben made of all heresies in Germanye But their maiesties thought it not best to folow such counsaile and therefore the matters of the sea Apostolike be in that countrey as they be that is they were neuer in worse case and I see they wyll be euery day worse worse And I hauyng the like commission at this present frō our most holy father pope Paul the fourthe haue often geuen counsaile to this most noble king of Polone exhortyng him that he wold cause to be cut of .viii. or x. heades of the most chiefe of those that go about to stirre vp this doctrine of the Lutherans in Polone For this is the right way to kepe the realme cleane from heresies It is true that I haue gyuē this coūcel to the kinges maiestie I haue vttred it vnto one that is in great authoritie with him to thintēt he shuld helpe to persuade him Nowe suche a matter of so great importance which wold haue ben kepte so secrete as euer any was least it shuld brede more enuy batred vnto the most holy vicars of Christ suche a matter I say I feare it be disclosed opened abrode in euery corner For the said lord Coūte Palatine hath laid it to my charge by his letters hauīg writen it it is no doubt but he hath spoken it wil speke it vnto others Now pleseth it your honor to consider in what case I stande and of what mynde I maye be and whether I haue reasonable cause to desire to be dispatched hēce Those that be the promoters of these heresies be in any mighty I haue done what I coulde to ridde the world of them Truly ther hath bē no lack on my behalf What think you thei wil do towards me if I cōtinue lōg in their eies I cā loke for non other thā to be bāned cursed railed cried out vpō if no wors happē But this is the greueth me most that they wil go about to sprede horrible tales abrode against our holy fathers holinesse not only in Polone but also throughout al Germany wyl saye as their maner is that these be the Coūcels that his holynes wil make that is with choppynge of heades other such like violences Yea I vnderstand they speake it all redy and wonderfully blow it abrode wherby I doo perceiue a wōderful impedimēt hurt to the doing of those thinges that the most Reuerend and noble Cardinall of Caraffa hath lately cōmitted vnto me by his letters that is to let them vnderstand that this their desire to make a nationall councel is a part and point of an heretike And that therfore they speake not nor thinke therof but tary for a general coūcel which his holynes wyl shortly make I say in this now am I altogyther occupied and I thought I myght haue don some good in deferrynge and prolongynge the tyme as his holynes desyre is but the matter beyng disclosed as I haue sayd before I can not se but al men be against me no man wyl here me all mens myndes are alienate from me and vtterly set against me In somuch to be short wer it not for these most reuerend fathers specially this most Reuerend father the said Archbishop who is my sainctuary I could not tell where to saue my lyfe they speake so muche euyl of me And whan thei haue nothyng to talk of than they go about saying thei know for what cause I can not be made cardinal as thogh I shuld be āgry with God for that it hath plesed him I shuld be born out of lauful matrimony I am contēt it hath plesed him to make me to be born a christen man and therfore I passe not vpō that other But this cōbreth me excedyngly to vnderstād that ther goth about a certain letter printed in diuers tongues wherein bicause I was assistent to the most reuerēd of good memory Cardinall Crescentius the Legate in the councel of Trent al thyng is imputed to me my counsel that was done in the same councel of Trent and specially that audience was not geuen to the Lutherans as in dede it was not mete nor ought to be For I confesse that I haue alwayes ben of this opinion that he which is out of the church ought not to be admitted to speak of matters of the churche But those that vnderstand it on the contrary part whan I shall speake any more of the holdynge of a generall councell will out of all peraduenture say to my face that we mynd to