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truth_n believe_v hear_v know_v 2,139 5 3.5110 3 false
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A33945 The pulpit-guard routed, in its twenty strong-holds, or, A brief answer to a large and lawless discourse, written by one Tho. Hall ... intituled, The pulpit-guarded, with twenty arguments, pretending to prove the unlawfulness and sinfulness of private mens preaching ... his six arguments to prove their ministry free from anti-Christianism, rased, and six more asserted, proving them to be anti-Christian / written by Tho. Collier. Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691. 1651 (1651) Wing C5295; ESTC R9709 89,279 114

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substance_n for_o you_o own_o their_o ministry_n true_a their_o ordinance_n true_a and_o indeed_o you_o be_v the_o sectary_n and_o schismatic_n in_o rent_v from_o they_o they_o be_v in_o your_o account_n a_o true_a church_n and_o ministry_n though_o corrupt_v this_n yourself_o acknowledge_v in_o your_o second_o argument_n and_o this_o parson_n tilly_n of_o compton_n in_o somersetshire_n no_o little_a one_o in_o the_o people_n account_n acknowledge_v in_o express_a term_n that_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o her_o ministry_n a_o true_a ministry_n etc._n etc._n 2._o there_o may_v be_v a_o opposition_n in_o some_o circumstantial_o and_o yet_o a_o join_n in_o other_o manasseh_n against_o ephraim_n and_o ephraim_n against_o manasseh_n and_o both_o against_o judah_n you_o be_v both_o against_o christ_n and_o his_o inter_v which_o be_v his_o people_n etc._n etc._n you_o say_v this_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o ensue_a parallel_n 1._o they_o be_v ordain_v to_o sacrifice_v 2._o you_o 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