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A50462 A conference betwixt a Protestant and a Jevv, or, A second letter from a merchant in London to his correspondent in Amsterdam. Mayo, Richard, 1631?-1695.; Jacob, John, 17th cent. 1678 (1678) Wing M1523; ESTC R7786 36,017 42

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A CONFERENCE Betwixt a Protestant And a JEVV OR A Second Letter FROM A Merchant in LONDON to his Correspondent in Amsterdam LONDON Printed for Tho. Parkhurst at the Bible and Three Crowns at the 〈…〉 Imprimatur Geo. Thorp Rmo in Christo P. V. Domino Gulielmo Archiep. Cant. a Sacris Domesticis May 28. 1678. A Conference betwixt a Protestant and a Jew c. Kind Sir I Think my self oblig'd partly by mine own promise and partly by your importunity to give you some account of the second Conference at my House which was managed by Mr. B. and Rabbi J. and I wish you may read it with the same satisfaction that I heard it After the Company met which was now a little augmented by consent and all were seated and composed Mr. B. began and applied himself particularly to Rabbi J. and said Sir you know the business that we are come hither about that it is to debate Whether Jesus of Nazareth be the promised Messias This was demonstrated the last meeting by this worthy person pointing to Father S. by a convincing argument which was drawn from the many infallible Miracles which were wrought by himself in the days of his flesh and by his Followers afterwards in his Name these did amply testifie that he came from God and that the testimony he gave of himself was true else God as was then said would never have set his own seal to it It is indeed the greatest confirmation of any testimony that poor mortals who can't discern the Essence and Being of God are capable of receiving I don't therefore decline this argument because of its insufficiency to prove the matter in question or because any thing hath or can be offered to evade or invalidate the force of it But to the end you may see our faith doth not hang only upon this hinge I shall advance another argument to prove that Jesus of Nazareth in whom we Christians believe is the promised Messias Besides then the testimony of Miracles we have the testimony of the Scriptures to this truth and I remember our Lord himself doth appeal to both these testimonies he says The works he did in his Fathers name did bear witness of him and he bids the Jews to search the Scriptures for they are they which testifie of him And we find in the Acts of his Apostles that one Apollos did mightily convince the Jews and that publickly shewing by the Scriptures that Jesus was Christ To this Work then I shall immediately apply my self and as I remember 't is that which I promised and I suppose you expect Rabbi J. assented and said Yes that was the proof they now expected only he hoped that by the Scriptures he meant those that the Christians call the Scriptures of the Old Testament to wit the Writings of Moses and the Prophets and the Hagiographa Mr. B. reply'd that he intended no other for he was not insensible how the Jews would object against any citation out of the Scriptures of the New Testament though he added he could easily manifest if that were now his business that there lay no exceptions against them but what were of equal force against the Writings of Moses and all the Prophets but that he should confine himself to those Scriptures which by the unanimous consent both of Jews and Christians were of Divine authority And from these said he I shall make good these two grand assertions 1. That the promised Messias is long since come And 2. That Jesus of Nazareth is he And if I prove these two points I hope you will give us the right hand of fellowship and become members of the Christian Church Rabbi J. answered that if those two points were clearly and convincingly proved he would presently renounce Judaism and be baptized and become a professor of the Christian faith He only requested that it might not be interpreted an interruption if as particular places were cited and urged he made his objections if he had any because he was old and of weak memory and many things might slip from him if he defer'd the mentioning of them till the end of a long Discourse Mr. B. approv'd of his motion and therefore told him he would purposely make a pause now and then to wait if any thing might be objected or opposed to what he deliver'd Then pulling a Hebrew Bible out of his Pocket he laid it before him and thus proceeded Mr. B. The first thing I propounded to prove is this That the promised Messias is already yea long since come For the evincing of this assertion I might urge many places out of Moses and the Prophets but I shall take up only with three which are most considerable The first is in the Book which we call Genesis in the Hebrew Beresith you will find it in Ch. 49. v. 8 10. there Jacob is giving his Sons his last Benediction and when he comes to Judah he prophesies of him That his Brethren should praise him that his hands should be in the neck of his enemies that his fathers children should bow down before him and farther which is the passage I aim at he adds that the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a lawgiver from between his feet until Shiloh come and unto him shall the gathering of the people be I shall first explain these words and then form my argument from them By Judah here is not meant the person but the tribe of Judah Nothing here spoken of Judah was in any measure fulfill'd in his person he liv'd and dy'd in Egypt without preeminence among his Brethren and if you look a little higher you 'l find the things foretold by Jacob were such as concern'd not the persons of his sons but their posterity in the last days By Scepter and Lawgiver is meant the ruling and legislative power that in process of time did settle and center in that Tribe of Judah it began in David who was of that Tribe and continued for some Centuries of years though not without alterations and intercisions though there was some variety in the form of Government sometimes it was Monarchical and sometimes Aristocratical yet still the Law and Polity amongst them was the same By Shiloh is meant the Messias or the promised seed the seed of the Woman this might be prov'd from the signification of the word as also from the following words to him shall the gathering of the people be or as some read it to him shall the obedience of the Nations be Now to whom can this be applied but the Messias unto whom it is elsewhere promised the Nations shall seek The Nations of the Earth were to be blessed in him and the Nations of the Earth were to be gathered to him Of this opinion also were all your ancient Masters Nothing is of greater authority with you Jews than your Targums Ben Vzziel renders it Until the time wherein the King Messiah shall come and Onkelos to the same purpose Until the Messiah