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A35057 The judgment of M. Cartwright and M. Baxter concerning separation and the ceremonies Cartwright, Thomas, 1634-1689.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1673 (1673) Wing C701; ESTC R21747 13,713 32

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of God But such are the Assemblies in England Therefore they are the Churches of God As touching the Spirit of God it hath been said before Whereupon it also followeth that he likewise put his Word in their mouths considering that the Spirit of God is not given but by his Word And seeing that the Lord in mercy hath set up divers burning Lamps in those Assemblies whereby light is conveyed more or less into all the parts of the Land it seemeth that the Church of England should receive injury if it should not be counted among the Golden Candlesticks which serve to keep out darkness and night from the Lords House until such time as the day-spring and Lucifer arise in our hearts If you say All do not believe the Gospel truly which profess The same exception lyeth against all other Churches how reformed soever If there be fewer faithful in our Churches than in others The truth of the Church standeth not in number for it there were in every Church one truly undissemblingly faithful all the rest holding the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ in words onely yet should all those Churches be to us the Churches of God And if you say that all those Assemblies as it were all the branches and arms of the Candlestick have not light set upon them the greater part of them being damped by a dumb ministry notwithstanding by the way you confess that those Assemblies upon whom the Lord hath set up the lamp of a preaching Ministery are the Churches of God which seemeth to cast down that hill which standeth in the way against our rejoyning whereby you cannot afford us the name of Gods Churches because we have not the Discipline by him appointed Now for that other whether they have some glaunce of knowledge by that dumb Ministery or not may afterward in another place be considered For the present I answer That even those Congregations for so much as they both have by some former Ministery or means which the Lord hath used towards them received faith standing thereby in our Saviour Christ as in the shaft of the Candlestick and being members of the same body they may well receive some supply of their wants from the light that shineth in the next branch unto them for if every Assembly being without a lamp of the Ministery should by and by be holden to be broken from the shaft of the Church-Candlestick then at every vacation of the Ministery and whensoever by death the Lord should put out one of his lights it should follow that that Assembly by the fall of their Minister into the grave should from the highest heaven fall into the grave of Hell But you will say peradventure that an Assembly that hath a dumb Minister is in worse case than that which bath none at all If that be granted it followeth not therefore that the Assembly which yesterday being without a dumb Minister was the Church of God should to day having such a one set over them be the Synagogue of Satan And here methink when you go about to make nothing of the dumb Ministery you ascribe more force unto it than it hath for you make him not so much a guide as an Head of the Church as that those which before in all equal judgment were to be deemed members of Christ by having of them should suddenly become members of Antichrist I do not therefore yield unto you in that you say they are the chief alway in the Synagogue our Saviour Christ in whom those companies do believe being the chief with whom through faith they grow to be one body rather than with Satan by hearing the dumb Minister to be one with him Say therefore that it is a fault in them to hear such a Minister thrust upon them yet that it is an Apostacy from God and an utter falling away from the Gospel I se not with what great appearance of truth it can be spoken Moses when divers of the people clave unto Coreh Dathan and Abiram forsaking willingly the lawful and ordinary Ministery of the Aaronites did not therefore cast them forth from the Lords host And should the Churches of God for hearing a dumb Minister which is thrust upon them forthwith be reputed for runagates from the Lord Again The Lord is in Covenant with the people to whom he gives the Seals of his Covenant This he doth to our Assemblies in England Therefore they are the Lords Confederates If you say that the Seals set to by the dumb Ministery are no Seals which afterward cometh to be examined yet you thereby confess that those which are ministered by sufficient Ministers are true and uncounterfeit Sacraments of the Church whereby it falleth out again that you seem to hold that the Churches of England are not the true Churches of Christ because they have not his commanded Discipline Hereto may be added all the Churches in Europe all which give the right hand of Society in the house of God unto the Assemblies which are in England Which argument of Churches Authority although it be not so strong as it will enforce yet ought it to stay all sudden judgment unto the contrary and so long to cause silence until the Cause being ripely on both sides debated the contrary of it which the Churches should do through the lightsomness of the truth thereof break forth And if it be meet to proceed softly and as it were with a leaden foot unto the Excommunication of one onely member of the Church of God there ought verily to have been great consultation taken or ever the Churches of two whole Islands should have been cast out especially when they be holden in by Voices not onely of divers persons but of all the Churches to whom knowledge of their estate hath come And if there were but one man worthy to be Excommunicate yet if the greater part of your Assembly would not yield consent thereunto I hold it that the order of the Discipliae requireth that the rest are to bear the person whom they cannot remove And therefore though the Assemblies of England had deserved through want of Discipline and of a preaching Ministery to be cast out from the accompt of the Churches of God yet being holden in by the Voices of the Churches themselves ought to have been so far born with as the communicating should not make them guilty of a falling away from the Lord. Now I come to those two Reasons whereby you think you may justly hold the Assemblies in England for no Churches of God And first of all to the reason of the Discipline for the want whereof you gave them all without exception the black stone of condemnation from being the Churches of God Where it is to be understood that as in a Man there are certain parts essential and such as without which the man cannot stand and other some serving to his comelyness or to his long continuance So it is in this matter there is the