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pope_n supremacy_n express_o but_o implicit_o in_o subject_v themselves_o to_o they_o that_o christ_n have_v institute_v to_o be_v their_o lawful_a pastor_n five_o notable_a consequent_n of_o this_o the_o true_a method_n of_o believe_v sect._n 12._o the_o instance_n of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o iberian_o and_o indian_n vindicate_v he_o suppose_v that_o every_o reveal_v truth_n be_v teach_v they_o by_o lay-person_n sect._n 13._o the_o instance_n of_o peter_n not_o preach_v his_o own_o supremacy_n act._n 2._o vindicate_v sect._n 14._o the_o indian_n convert_v by_o the_o english_a and_o dutch_a be_v teach_v the_o true_a faith_n sect._n 15._o and_o so_o be_v the_o abassine_n sect._n 16._o his_o doctrine_n against_o christ_n visible_a reign_n contain_v many_o gross_a error_n common_o call_v heresy_n and_o by_o make_v the_o christian_a world_n a_o monster_n if_o it_o have_v not_o one_o papal_a head_n he_o make_v the_o humane_a world_n a_o monster_n because_o it_o have_v not_o one_o 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humane_a head_n which_o end_v the_o controversy_n sect._n 6._o more_o difference_n and_o great_a among_o papist_n than_o among_o all_o the_o other_o church_n sect._n 7._o he_o have_v no_o evasion_n but_o say_v that_o these_o church_n be_v not_o christian_n because_o they_o depend_v not_o on_o the_o pope_n from_o which_o he_o before_o say_v that_o he_o abstract_v sect._n 8._o he_o deny_v we_o with_o the_o abassine_n greek_n armenian_n etc._n etc._n to_o have_v be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o one_o church_n both_o full_o prove_v sect._n 9_o the_o charge_n of_o nestorianism_n and_o eutichianism_n on_o many_o church_n examine_v sect._n 10._o his_o shameful_a call_n for_o the_o name_n of_o sect_n and_o require_v proof_n of_o the_o negative_a that_o they_o be_v not_o such_o sect._n 11._o chap._n 3._o more_o of_o our_o unity_n of_o the_o speech_n of_o celestine_n legate_n at_o ephesus_n sect._n 1_o 2._o his_o say_n and_o unsay_n sect._n 3_o his_o
instance_n of_o goth_n dane_n swede_n examine_v sect._n 4_o 5._o whether_o extra_fw-la imperial_a church_n be_v under_o the_o pope_n sect._n 5._o in_o what_o case_n some_o be_v and_o which_o his_o pretence_n to_o the_o indian_n armenian_n and_o persian_n examine_v sect._n 6._o the_o tradition_n of_o these_o church_n be_v against_o popery_n sect_n 7._o his_o notorious_a fiction_n about_o the_o subjection_n of_o the_o indian_n armenian_n and_o abassine_n to_o rome_n sect._n 9_o 10._o of_o pisanus_n arabic_a nicene_n canon_n sect._n 11._o he_o intend_v to_o write_v a_o tractate_n to_o prove_v that_o extraneous_a bishop_n be_v at_o the_o council_n but_o that_o put-off_a go_v for_o a_o answer_n sect._n 12._o he_o confess_v that_o the_o very_a gallicane_n and_o spanish_a liturgy_n mention_v not_o the_o pope_n sovereignty_n no_o more_o than_o the_o ethiopic_a sect._n 13._o when_o constantine_n entreat_v the_o king_n of_o persia_n for_o the_o church_n there_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o command_v there_o sect._n 14._o whether_o before_o gregory_n mission_n the_o british_a church_n be_v ever_o subject_a to_o the_o pope_n or_o heretical_a sect._n 15._o reynerius_n word_n vindicate_v viz._n the_o church_n of_o the_o armenian_n ethiopian_n and_o indian_n and_o the_o rest_n which_o the_o apostle_n convert_v be_v not_o under_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n sect._n 16._o the_o 28._o can._n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n vindicate_v which_o declare_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v but_o the_o first_o patriarch_n in_o the_o empire_n by_o humane_a right_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o imperial_a city_n sect._n 17._o 18_o 19_o 20._o his_o brave_a attempt_n to_o prove_v that_o extra-imperial_a bishop_n be_v summon_v to_o the_o council_n at_o nice_a of_o john_n persidis_fw-la armenian_n gothia_n at_o ephes._n 1_o thebamnon_n bishop_n of_o coptus_n sect._n 21._o 22._o his_o other_o citation_n confute_v sect._n 23._o of_o eusebius_n his_o circular_a letter_n sect._n 24._o chap._n 4._o the_o emperor_n and_o not_o the_o pope_n call_v the_o old_a council_n sect._n 1_o myraeus_n his_o notitia_fw-la episcopat_fw-la against_o he_o sect._n 2._o of_o the_o authority_n over_o the_o barbarous_a give_v con._n calce_v c._n 28._o proof_n that_o the_o papal_a power_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v but_o jure_fw-la humano_fw-la sect._n 5._o he_o be_v over_o but_o one_o empire_n sect._n 6._o no_o council_n but_o of_o one_o empire_n prosper_v testimony_n examine_v &_o caput_fw-la mundi_fw-la expound_v sect._n 7._o pope_n leo_n word_n examine_v sect._n 8_o 9_o the_o decretal_a epistle_n show_v the_o pope_n rule_v not_o the_o world_n sect._n 10._o more_o of_o ethiopia_n and_o pisanus_n canon_n sect._n 11._o chap._n 5._o the_o case_n reâ—…eated_v the_o uselessness_n of_o his_o testimony_n therein_o chap._n 6._o the_o vanity_n of_o his_o proof_n that_o council_n be_v call_v general_n as_o to_o all_o the_o world_n and_o not_o only_o to_o the_o empire_n from_o the_o word_n totius_fw-la orbis_fw-la 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