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A84067 A call to the churches; or, A packet of letters to the pastors of Wales presented to the baptized teachers there. With a postscript of a Welsh dispute. By Will. Erbery. Erbery, William, 1604-1654. 1653 (1653) Wing E3224; Thomason E688_1; ESTC R206886 39,182 57

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the same This I only speak to shew the Ignorance or inconsiderate proceeds of our Gospel-preachers who know not what they say nor the way they go nor the work they do nor the word they speak nor the Gospel which they pretend to preach unto the world But because I now write to the baptized Churches I would convince them also of this that they are not the true nor can baptize in truth having not a Gospel yet manifest among them I say not manifest for there may be a seed of it in them as also was in legal Saints I will not minde you of those two Scriptures mentioned in the following dispute John 7.38 39. and John 14.12 nor yet a third proof Mark 16.16 17. Hee that believeth and is baptixed shall be saved and these signs shall follow them that believe c. Those signes did follow Gospel-believers 1 Cor. 1.7 1 Cor. 12.7 compare at least every Gospel Church of believers in whose members as that faith was manifested so especially in the Ministers or Elders who by laying on of hands on the sick and by prayer of faith could save the sick from death The Oyle then used being not a physical receipt or chirurgical salve nor yet an empty Ceremony but a signe of the Spirits presence in the Church and power in the Elder to heal the body as well as the soul James 5.14 15. I will not mention that other laying on of the Presbytery or Eldership in ordaining by a gift of the Spirit ever given thereby 1 Tim. 4.14 2 Tim. 1.6 compare as with God I shall shew hereafter onely now 't is clear there is no Gospel-faith in all the Churches this day Know then that in the Churches of Christ there was both the gift of Faith and the grace of Faith the one in some Church-members as well as in Ministers 1 Cor. 12.9 the other was common to all believers though some that were carnal then in Gospel-Churches had but a legal faith because carnal 2 Cor. 3.1 Heb. 5.12 13. compare As for Gospel-faith suitable to that present state of the Spirit and spiritual Saints it was though not differing yet diverse from the legal faith of Gods people under the Law true faith was ever the same for substance but not for manifestation as the Gospel is everlasting and Christ the same to day yesterday and for ever But as Christ was onely vayled in the Law and revealed in the Gospel so the Gospel and Christ Jesus were both Mysteries hid since the world began from the Sons of men yea from the sons of God-under the Law Rom. 16.25 Eph. 3.5 Col. 1.26 compare This Mystery was not manifest till to the Apostles and primitive Saints by the Spirit Eph. 3.5 That Spirit was not given before yea the Spirit was not at all as the Greek there reads John 7.39 And so that Spirit is not now not the Baptisme of the Spirit which the Apostles themselves had not John 20.22 Act. 1.5 compare while Christ was with them in flesh and though after his resurrection he breathed the Spirit on them yet they were not baptized with the Spirit till afterward Before which given they could not go forth to Teach all Nations and Baptize in a Gospel-way Act. 1.4 Therefore Gospel-Believers could not be before the Baptisme of the Spirit that is the pouring forth the gifts thereof on the Church Act. 2.33 44. 1 Cor. 12.7 9. compared Besides as the object of a Gospel-faith was a mystery that 's Christ in us the hope of glory John 4.20 Col. 1.27 Gal. 1.15 and 2.20 compare 1 Cor. 2.2 7 10 12 13. vers compare the Son of God revealed in us living in us and dying in us and we crucified with him for both Christ and him crucified also was a mystery as the Gospel the object of that faith so this Gospel-faith was a mystery likewise the mystery of Faith in a pure conscience 1 Tim. 3.9 But the object of a Legal faith was no mystery but a plain promise or God in covenant not God in Christ for this the Apostles themselves knew not in the dayes of his flesh Yee believe in God saith he believe also in me c. Legal Saints believed on God not on Christ for Christ was a mystery not yet manifest or to believe on God by Christ is that which believing Christians this day know not nor consider For what 's this why first 't is to know Christ in the Father and the Father in him and he in us and we in him John 14.20 Secondly to know Christ as the way to the Father for us vers 6.7 how so he that believeth on me believeth not on me but on him that sent me and he that seeth me seeth him that sent me that 's the Father in me Iohn 12.44 45. Iohn 14.9 compared What 's that 't is thus to me he that sees God in Christ and the Father in him Emanuel God with us that 's Christ Mat. 1.23 Eph. 3.19 John 17.23 compare may as well see God even the Father in himself for Christ is in us and we in Christ that is God in our flesh as in Christs for Christ and we are perfect in one one with the Father thus he is the way to the Father and thus by him as the way we believe on God who raised him from the dead and gave him glory that our faith and hope might be in God 1 Pet. 1.23 So that in truth to believe on Christ is not to believe on Christ but on the Father in him God in his flesh and in ours also for our faith does tend and end in God yet through him and by him as I said before So that here 's the misbeliefe of Churches this day their faith is onely on God as the Iews or only on Christ as deceived Christians not on God and Christ or on God by Christ And by this it appears there has not been in the Churches a Gospel-faith at least formally for vertually there might be in some but formally and effectually there has not been a Gospel-faith in the Saints these 1400 years for what sign has followed any that believed who could ever shew the Gift of Faith when the grace of Faith was scarce known what mountain or mighty thing has been done Mark 6.17 Mat. 17.20 Mat. 21.21 compare Josh 6.13 or done away and removed meerly by Faith for an outward force and strength of man has alwaies attended great acts in latter times but where 's the fall of Iericho's walls by rams-horns or Gideons conquest by broken pitchers and lights held up in his hand Oh this new light believers are afraid of Judg. 7.20 or to hear the sound of a Trumpet All things saith Christ what soever ye shall ask in prayer believing ye shall receive it that is Matth. 21.22 asking in faith nothing wavering c. though the man want wisdom yet he shall have it liberally given him of God saith
thy faith by thy works and as faith works by love James 2.8 so the labour of love cannot possible be hid but 't will appear to all but in you it doth not therefore the first appearance of the Apostacie or falling away of the Churches was in leaving their first love Rev. 2.4 for as the seven Churches of Asia were types of the Apostolique Churches enclining to an Apostacy so Ephesus the first is charged with this Rev. 3.26 that she was fallen from her first love as Laodicea the last being the Type of these last Churches is commended for nothing but condemned altogether for want of zeal or fervent love though the Baptisme of the Spirit and of fire was that especially wanting in that Church and in all this day who are not hot nor have any Spiritual gift at all yea nor any grace of the Gospel as I shewed before For this cause Christ fore-told that at his comming Because iniquity should abound Matth. 24.12 the love of many would wax cold Noting first that iniquity would abound in the Churches as to be carnal covetous unclean proud and peevish without faith or love Secondly men looking upon Churches in this condition would have but cold love unto them whose love is so cold one to another But thirdly here 's the height of love the love of such who are saved from the Apostacy to love those in whom iniquity abounds to love the Churches though iniquity abounds among them 1 Cor. 13.7 for love believes all things and hopes all things believes the best of all and hopes they will be better But yet there is one mark of love I have not mentioned that 's Christs love not in word and in tongue but in deed and in truth pray what 's that 'T is 1 John 3.16 Hereby perceive we the love of God because he laid down his life for us and we ought to lay down our life for our brethren Here 's first a Mystery that men know not how God did lay down his life for the death of the man Christ all conceive but how that man was nothing but God manifest in flesh and how God shed his blood crucifying that flesh to himself is the Mystery of Christ and him crucified not known to the Churches but because God laid down his life for us we ought to lay down our life for the brethren Heer 's love to the brotherhood and mark it this love is commanded as well as baptisme we ought so to love the brethren as to dye for them Oh that my dear baptized brethren could once dye to their own life their living in the world according to Ordinances Col. 2.20 Ordinances that shall be proved with God not to be of a Gospel-appointment or power will you not die to these if it be proved unto you that having not the baptisme of the Spirit and of fire in your Church you have no power to baptize with water I mean in a Gospel way Secondly that there is no true Administrator sent of God to baptize Thirdly that Water-baptisme was not by dipping but by washing the Disciples feet called Believers going down to the waters up to the Ankles Oh that you could dye to your own life to flesh and blood to that reason and understanding of yours raised on the traditions of men Yea that ye could dye to your own credit content comforts truly 't will not be to your credit to disown and lay down your Principles and practice of dipping so long continued I know you have much content and comfort in your performances and gathered Churches while many scattered Saints are mourning over your Formes and their own flesh yea to the flesh of Christ being dead unto them Ioh. 16 7. as the Disciples did at the departure of Christ when that pure flesh of his must suffer withering and weakness and his flesh be taken from them they had sorrow of heart while the world did rejoyce that is Ioh. 16.20 Rev. 11.10 compare Heb. 9.1 while the Church of the Jewes which was but a worldly Sanctuary were rejoycing in their Ordinances in their Temple and Church-fellowship So many scattered Saints are weeping and full of sorrow in their bewildernessed state in the want of the solemn Assembly because it cannot be yea Zeph. 3.18 by the waters of Babylon they sit down and weep while you are dipping in them and while others are merry with singing of Psalmes your brethrens Harps are hanged upon the Willowes Psal 137.1 2. on fruitless trees because they cannot sing one of the songs of of Zion they being in a strange land not in the life of God alone but living still in Babylon in flesh and self in which they feel themselves imbondaged We your brethren are not alive but dead in Babylon as dry bones there we lye even your brethren And will ye not yet dye for us have ye not that love as to give your lives for your brethren Truly if you did live indeed you would give your lives but because you are dead you cannot do it The Church of Sardis had a name that she lived and was dead you have the name of a Church of Church in order of Gospel-ordinances but are they not all dead Forms are not your fellowships divided also This shews you are dead as the dry bones in Babylon because you are so divided as those two sticks so your best Societies are even Judah and Israel Independants and Baptized Churches For as I shewed before the Gospel-Churches were but one Body had but one Baptisme there was the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace but now not onely the staff beauty but the staff bands that 's the brother hood is broken between Judah and Israel Zach. 11.10 14. So now beloved whether you will dye or no for your brethren you are but the dead Body and yet you are the dead body of the Lord Ezek. 37.12 Isa 26.29 compare that 's your comfort and mine that you shall rise at last Onely know at present that you are but the dead Body so indeed the Church under the Law was under a Ministery of death and so the Gospel-Churches were Dead also 2 Cor. 3.7 Col. 3.3 for ye are dead and your life is hid with Christ in God More life was manifest in the Gospel then under the Law their life being not in Ordinances as the legal Church but their life was in Christ 1 Cor. 13.9 12. verse and with Christ in God but because they knew God but in part saw but in a Glass darkly because their life was hidden from them therefore they were said to be dead still and so the Gospel-Churches were but the dead bodie then Yea their Gospel-Ordinances indeed were but to death they held forth nothing but the death of Christ Rom. 6.3 1 Cor. 11.26 as in baptisme they were baptized into his death in breaking of bread they shewed forth the Lords death and as the
a few 3. Spake not with tongues 4. Gave not the Spirit by laying on of hands as the Apostles did after Jesus was glorified Thirdly the weakest this day I mean many of the scattered Saints who do not profess any Gospel-faith to themselves yet dare not deny it in them for there 's a perfect confusion a Babel in their spirits as in gathered Societies I say the weakest of scattered Saints this day do greater works then Christ did in the days of his flesh though the Spirit appear not in them nor they as doing those works For first Babylons fall is by them yea Babylon the great from first to last has been ever laid lowe by the weakest of scattered Saints Isa 26.5 6. Zach. 12.7 Jer. 51.58 while the gathered Churches in all Ages have been still building Babylon a new when and old Form or piece of the wall has been falling Secondly the least of the flock draws for Babylon for utter destruction Jer. 50.45 yea draw them out whom Saints out of the Church Thirdly the weakest Isa 41.15 Jer. 51.20 Psal 149.8 9. 1 Cor. 6.2 3. even worms do this day thresh mountains throw down hills tear the rocks and whole armies in pieces break kingdoms binde kings nobles and judges yea judge the world and angels of Churches for the feeble or fallen Hebr. is become as David and the house of David as God Zach. 12.8 and the angel of the Lord before them All this we see done by the Saints this day and the Saints thus to be though they believe not for now they begin to walk not by faith but by sight that 's the third dispensation which being full Isa 52.8 Rom. 8.18 24. Rev. 22.4 faith shall be swallowed up into vision hope into o possession of that glory wherein we shall see God as he is see his face and the Father's Name on our foreheads yea his Name so visible and clear upon us that all men shall see God the Father in us and whole nations joyn to the Lord with us in that day This was the last truth which I taught That God is in union with mankinde And this I was about to prove by Argument That God is in union with man And this was all I taught the people But M. Nichols fearing the Arguments that might follow would needs perswade that I held a spiritual union between men and God This I never said but for Disputes sake and to try the mans strength I undertook to prove That union which is by the Spirit is a spiritual union But the union between God and mankinde is by the Spirit Ergo. This he could neither stand against therefore falls off fairly again Truth saith he the union is spiritual but not of grace God is not graciously united to All men I was willing to follow the man or the Lord in his weakness therefore I replied again The grace of God that bringeth salvation Tit. 2.11 hath appeared to All men Therefore the grace of union is to all or God graciously united to Mankinde This is that Philanthropie or kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man which appeared Tit. 3.4 This he grants again and therefore cries quarter the third time 'T is of grace saith he there is a gracious union but the union is not saving between God and all men or Mankinde Here I would follow him no further but left him in the flight because I foresaw and Ambush laid before me and that in the salvation of all men the man sought my destruction Therefore here the Dispute ended and we both departed in peace as friends But though I desire not any Disputes with men yet I shall with God make it good in due time That there is a Saving union between God and Mankinde for Tir. 2.11 the grace of God that bringeth salvation to All men hath appeared so the margin reads and so I am ready to prove to all the world London Jan. 18. 1652. Your William Erbery FINIS