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A87723	The unlimited authority of Christs disciples cleared or the present church and ministery vindicated. Or Christs disciples authority for the practice of his commands is unlimitted. Being a brief answer to a book intituled (A sober Word to a serious people.) There the writer saith, Christ gave his commissions not to disciples as disciples, but to apostles. But here is by Scripture proved, that the authority & commissions, given to disciples, (as disciples considered) are of a far larger extent, then the authority of commissions given to apostles. Written by Thomas Kilcop.	Killcop, Thomas.	1651 (1651)	Wing K441; Thomason E1377_5; ESTC R209289	19,252	48

Gods name be great among the Gentiles Mat. 1.11 He answers God will provide he can bring it about Mich. 2.7 10 3 5 6 7 4 Esa 22 7 Rom. 10 15. I reply Though God can and will bring his work about yet it shall not be to our honour or comfort if we refuse to help yea though he want not might yet such as come not forth to help the Lord are cursed bitterly Judg. 4 8 9 5. 23 24. Secondly in the time of Captivity som dwelt in fieled houses when Gods house lay waste they said the time is not come but God sharply reproveth them and giveth them to know they should have gained time for his as well as for their own Obj. No ministery no believing how can they believe on him of whom they have not heard or hear without a preacher Rom. 10.14 He answer by they is ment the Jewes p. 55. 56 they must have a preacher ere they believe they have heard and rejected and so are blinded till the time come for the dispersed to come to Zion I reply that by they is ment the Jewes I fully grant and yet he answers not the Objection for the Apostle draweth their particular from the generall faith cometh sayth he by hearing and hearing by the Word preacht so that no preaching no hearing no hearing no believing how then can they the Jewes believe except they heare or heare without a preacher He addeth not but that some Jewes and Gentiles may hear of God and Christ and believe to salvation without a speciall sending to preach but the Nation shall not The Samaritans and Cornelius believed without authoritive preaching some may by a Godly life some by the scattered ones declaring who were so far from being sent that they were sent after p. 58 59. Therefore though faith come by hearing yet may some believe that have not so heard and this adds strength to the mourners of Zion and to free them from the Bull not to question the present ministery lest also they question their own believing c. I reply If some Jewes though not the Nation may believe without preaching then may some gentiles also and it is but some that now do belive and obey 2dly If some may believe without preaching why may not more do so also 3dly If some believe without so hearing then was the Apostle out in saying faith commeth by hearing and hearing by the word preacht 4thly If Paul speak truth in saying faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word preacht then surely where believing is hath been preaching though we say otherwise 5thly It is where the word hath been declared that holy life tends to conversion it convens not without but joyntly with the word 1 Pet. 3.1 6ly Were those scattered far from being sent and yet declared and baptized then may Disciples also do so now though no more sent then they were 7thly They that were sent as he saith after the scantered ones were not sent to declare null nor yet to mend what they had done but to do what they could not do to lay 〈◊〉 hands and convey the spirit 8ly The b●ll he speaketh of hath not been so much among the Churches as among the non-Church ones they have not only questioned the present ministery but their own believing also for want of miracles c. 9ly Though there doth arise comfort not only to the Churches but to such as have not light therein if their conscience can truly witnesse that they have a willing minde then God accepteth according to what we have and so it was with the Eunuch and Cornelius c. but if our not being of a Church and in Christs way be not through want of light but want of love thereto then is our case very dangerous and the true hearted shall not abide long ignorant hereof as was shewn and so it was with the Eunuch and Cornelius and others And therefore hinder not the work of Christ as ye will answer it before the Apostle and high Priest of our profession at the great day of his appearing who will reward every one according to what he did in the flesh whether good or bad ● Minde further these ten Notes I Apostles practice is Disciples pattern Phil. 3 1 Thes 3 6 7. II When people set up God for their God or when God sets up any for his precious people they are engaged to walk in his wayes to keep his Ordinances his commands lawes Deut. 26.17 18. III The worshipping God as he appoints is walking in his way Levit. 26 3. IIII Such as see themselves in wrong wayes ought to enquire for the good old way and to walke therein Ier. 6.16 V God is by promise engaged to teach all that are humble and inquisitive the knowledge of himself and his wayes Prov. 5.1 2 3 4 5. Psa 25 9. VI The Scripture is a guide to finde out Gods wayes and commands to the Law and to the testimony if they speak not according to this word there is no light in them Esa 8 20 the Iewes by reading Scripture found dwelling in Boothes a Law for them to observe and so betook themselves to the practise of it with great joy for they had been so long without it that they know it not to be a Law til they found it so to VII be by reading Scripture And as this being given to Israelites Israelites might obey it so Gospel commands were given by Christ to disciples and therefore Disciples may set to the practise of them Matth. 28 19 20 Binde up the testimony among my Disciples Esa 8 16 VIII They whose hearts are now as free to obey Christ as once they were to ferve sin are Christs Disciples or servants Rom. 6.19 IX Miracles do not declare who are Disciples or who have authority to practise Christs commands for 1 False Prophets shall in latter daies work mira●les 2 Thes 2 9 2 To believe and obey without seeing miracles is commendable and the contrary reproveable John 4.48 20 29 1 Pet. 1 8. 3 The miracles that in Scripture we read of are in all ages usefull Iohn 20 30 31. 4 Signes are for such as believe not 1 Cor. 14. 5 Miracles seekers are by Christ termed adultereus Mat. 12 39. X Church meetings is Disciples duty also for 1 One main end of the ministery is the gathering Saints together Eph. 4. 2 To such as gather together in Christs name hath he promised his presence i.e. acceptance Math. 18. 3 The most necessary duties cannot be observed without Church-meetings we are to break bread in remembrance ef Christ but this cannot be done without Church assembling Act. 20.7 1 Cor. 11. We need oft to exhort each other which cannot be except we assemble Heb. 3 10 25 neither can publike prayer be without Church meeting Act. 1 4 We are to love brotherly fellowship 1 Pe. 2.17 Page 29 line 17 for on read no. FINIS

The unlimitted Authority OF Christs Disciples cleared OR The present Church and Ministery vindicated Or Christs Disciples Authority for the practice of his Commands is unlimitted BEING A brief answer to a Book intituled A sober Word to a serious People There the Writer saith Christ gave his Commissions not to Disciples as Disciples but to Apostles But here is by Scripture proved that the Authority Commissions given to Disciples as Disciples considered are of a far larger extent then the Authority or Commissions given to Apostles Written by THOMAS KILCOP Bind up the Testimony seale the Law among my Disciples Esa 8.16 O my Dove that art in the Clefts of the Rocks in the secret places of the staires let me see thy countenance let me hear thy voice f●r sweet is thy voice and thy countenance comely LONDON Printed by J. C. 1651. TO THE READER CHristian Reader there came to my hand a Book with no name to it intituled A sober word to a serious people It opposeth all Churches or Ministery that this day be and none as yet hath put forth any answer thereto wherefore I thought my self engaged to spend my mite of opportunity therein In the said Book are multiplicity of words and Scriptures quoted over and over therefore for brevity sake I mind only yet exactly the pith of it and give thereto a brief and punctual Answer even by the word of truth being very brief the Reader should be the mere observant Try all things hold fast that which is good 1 Thes 5.21 Do men contend against truth Oh then contend against such men Do they make void Gods Commands Oh then exalt them it is time for thee Lord to work saith David for they have made void thy Law therefore I love thy Commandements above Gold yea fine Gold therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right and I hate every false way The unlimitted Authority of Christs Disciples cleared The first part CHAP. 1. IN that Book he mindeth what the better sort of Seekers so called can do and what they cannot do they ought saith he p. 2. to read pray and give Almes from Acts 8. 10.1.2 and this for several ends p. 3. but for the present Churches and Ministery they see no ground these being Christ's grand capital and comprehensive institutions to which he gave gifts for comparing these with the word they conform not p. 4. I answer Christ requireth not only reading praying and almes-giving but also Church-meeting and Ministery as forsake not the fellowship that you have among your selves exhort one another daily love brotherly fellowship Heb. 3.13 and 10.25 1 Pet. 2.17 such as gladly received his word were baptized and they continued in the Apostles Doctrine and fellowship Act 2.41 42. Why can you not conform to one as well as to the other since Christ requireth the one as much as the other 1. These saith he are great and capital institutions I answer the more great and weighty the rather to be obeyed they were hypocrites that tythed Mint and Annis and left the weightiest matters of the Law Mat. 23.23 24. 2. To these saith he Christ gave gifts I answer if by gifts he mean the gift of faith love joy c. surely if these be wanting not Church Ministery only but praying reading and almes giving also are alike vain for who can call on him in whom they believe not Rom. 10. and if we give all our Goods to the poor and have not love it profits not 1 Cor. 13.3 and reading if without faith profits not for without faith it is unpossible to please God Heb. 11.5 but it by gifts he mean tongues and Miracles as I judge he doth then I reply that miracles were to confirm the word and not to beget obedience to it in such as before knew it tongues also were not for them that believe but for them that believe not these gifts were not given to make knowers obey but to make non knowers to know Mark 16.20 1 Cor. 14.22 Heb. 2.4 Do you own the Scripture to be Gods word and therefore read it though you saw no miracle to confirm it much more should you obey it though you see no miracle or do you in some things conform to it without seeing miracles you might do so also in other things on the same ground and you cannot disobey it for want of miracles without disowning it on the same account and as well might you for want here of disobey it in every thing as in som thing But the inference of these words to these he gave gifts is that the Church or Ministery that hath them not is not Christs Church or Ministery and then Christ may be obeyed though these be rejected I answer the Scripture saith these tokens shall follow them that believe Mark 16. but it doth not say such tokens shall accompany the Ministery and be in every visible Church therefore you might rather question as some do whether any in the world do believe since these are wanting then for want of these to question the truth of the Church and Ministery which those by you judged believers do enjoy 2. You herein question the truth of the Church and Ministery that have been as much as those that now are for John a Gospel-Minister Mark 1.1 2 3 4. did no Miracle John 10.41 and though the Corinth had all gifts 1 Cor. 1.7 and the Galatians had some yet we read not of any in the Churches of Macedonia or Asia or the Ephesians Bereans Philippians or almost any Church spoken of Obj. God hath set such in the Church 1 Cor. 12.28 29. I answer it is in that place evident that the Church there specified is no particular Church but the Church general called else-where the general Assembly of the first born written in Heaven Heb. 12. of which if we be not Members not only Church and Ministery but our readings prayings and distributions are little worth But if we be of this Church general as all believers be then may we acceptably pray read c. and as acceptably associate preach break bread and what not for if justified by faith we have peace God-ward through our Lord Jesus Christ by him also we have access to this grace wherein we stand Rom. 5.2 Rejoyce not in men for all is ours Paul Apollo things present or to come all is ours and we Christs 1 Cor. 3.21 22 23. 3. These saith he if compared with the word conform not I answer as much as your praying reading or Almes-giving do though we examine only his own quotations The Eunuch and Cornelius who acceptably read prayed and gave Alms had quickly the one a man the other an Angel sent them to estate them into Gospel Church and Ministery which he hath not to this day enjoyed therefore his own practice conformeth not to his own quotation Obj. They are not so unsuitable as to be disowned I answer I say the same of the

faith and Baptisme and so a powerlesse people call a giftlesse Ministerie p 17 18 who wanting gift study arts fullfilling Es 28 7 8 till that enlightening be Rev. 18 1 14 6 In the meane while believers make not hast Es 24.28 16 37.32 I Answer first doth Christ give call to the Ministery a first a second and a third way then they that are called the first way only or second or third way only are notwithstanding rightly called and if there be a fourth or fifth way then such as are called thereto the fourth or fift way though not the first second or third are notwithstanding rightly called and so the present Ministery may be rightly called though not called either of the three first wayes But Phillip and others scattered ones Act. 8. 11. which were not Ministers of the Word before were called to the ministery of the word and Baptisme 1. Not by Christ immediatly 2. Nor by Apostles with Churches election 3. Nor by the Church but 4ly By a providence being scattered there is therefore a providentiall call 5. The Evangelist Titus was left in Creta to redress what was wanting and ordain Elders in every City only minding that they be rightly quallified 6. Paul bad Timothy not to hinder any that should desire this Office in case they that desire it are suitably qualified this is a sixt way So then if the present Ministery be thereto called neither of the three first wayes yet are they rightly called if by either of the three last wayes Providentiall Evangelicall or desirable if they be suitably qualyfied 1 Tim. 3. Tit. 1. But is their call neither of the three first waies 1. To Disciples Christ gave his commission they have authority given them and they have given call to this Ministery 2. The Apostles Ministery I mean the Scripture calleth those that are suitably qualified thereto 3. Christ immediatly hath inwardly called and sterd them up thereto which is authoritive for the practise of a precept already given out as Hagg. 1.14 thus for our call 2dly Our Churches being in the right faith and order Col. 2.5 I meane in the main and consisting of Discples they are not powerlesse as in chap. 2. is shewn and if our Ministers do instrumentally convert and edefie and be indude with extraordinary vertuousnesse as if they be blameless the Husband of one Wife having children not accused of riot nor unrulie if he be not selfe willed not soon angry ●ot given to wi●e nor filthy lukar no striker but a lover of Hosptality and of good men being sober Just Holy Temperate able to convince then is he sutably gifted Tit. 1.5 6 7 8 9. 1 Tim. 3.1 2 3. any man that is thus qualified is sutably gifted Therefore saith Paul to Timothy if any desire the office c and to Titus bidding ordain Elders he addeth if any be blamelesse the Husband of one wife c. Shewing plainly that these are the sutable gifts 2 Though Timothy had a gift conveyed we read not so of all neither is it minded as a requisite to a right call 3. Neither was it conveyed by vertue of his call but by laying on of hands 4. Neither was it the gift of Miracles for he might by stirring it up inlarge it And the signes to wit Miracles that did follow or accompany the word Mark 16 are not minded as a Ministers Caracter neither can it so be for some Ministers of Christ wanted these and some false Ministers have them as John 10 41. with Dutr. 13 1 2 3. and Mat. 24. And they that were bid wait for power Act 1 were not bid not to Preach or Baptise till then but to bide at Jerusalem and not to go to the Nations to teach them till then and so this power is not authority but ability to teach Nations which they had not till with the gift of Tongues they were impowred And if studiousness in the Scripture be the art he saith we have instead of gifts I am sure Paul bid gifted Timothy do this 1 Tim. 4 13 14 15 3. They called Messengers of the Churches 2 Cor. 8 23 Ph. 2 25 are such as were with some Message sent from one Church to another 4 The enlightning he speaks of is but a clearer discovery of received truths for who so teacheth otherwise is to be accursed Gal 8 and the best way to know is to practise what we do know John 7 17. 8 31 5. Without all dispute Believers do make hast to keep Christs commands Psal 119 59 6● Act 2 41 16 33 and so much to the substance of this Book The second part THough his Answer to Objections hangs on these hinges and what hath been spoken might serve as answer to what follows if seriously weighed yet to cleare the truth the better to the weaker sort I shall also wave his Objections and his Answers to them The first Objection propounded and answered by him is for substance thus 1 Ob. Commission to Preach and Baptize was given to Disciples as Disciples Mat. 28 and Disciples while disciples so did John 3 22 24 Mat. 4 21. He Answerth Christ was then with them but when he left them he deligated to them the power that after his resurrection was given him Mat. 28. John 17 18 now they are in Christs stead then Disciples now Master-builders their Ministery is Apostleship not Discipleship Act 1.2 2 41. I Reply Though Christ be not present now as then he was yet are his commands as forcible now as they were then he will destroy at his next ●omming such as disobey him in the time of his ab●●nce Luke 19 14 17. 2. The same men then Disciples now master-builders are imployed in the same work now that they were then 3. And must teach Disciples now to do what he then taught them as minded chap. 2. 4. If Christ had not power given him till after his resurrection as he saith then their preaching and baptizing is his presence was as powerless as ours in his absence To the second branch of the question he answers 1 They might be Apostles before Johns imprisonment though mentioned after I reply not so for it is said they baptized in Jordan and Iohn in Enon for Iohn was not yet in prison 2. He answereth if they were only Disciples yet Baptisme was not theirs but Christs authoritatively he did it but he that hath authority can judge of the fitness of those he baptizeth as did John Philip and Peter Mat. 3. Acts 8 38. 10.40 I reply was their Ministry Christs authoritatively so is ours for we as Disciples do those things that they were bid in Mat. 28. to teach Disciples to do 2 They could not judge infallibly of the fitness of those they baptized witness the unfitness of many that they did baptize Also John confest that he that came after him was he that had his fan in his hand and which would throughly purge his floore 3 Before he