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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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liberty_n to_o swerve_v from_o these_o primitive_a practice_n etc._n etc._n 4._o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant●_n be_v of_o that_o weight_n with_o the_o paedobaptist_n that_o you_o must_v b●ing_v more_o convince_a argument_n than_o you_o have_v yet_o do_v to_o take_v they_o off_o from_o that_o custom_n as_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v mr._n cradock_n to_o who_o mr._n baxter_n refer_v you_o tell_v you_o 4._o you_o gospel-liberty_n p._n 2d_o &_o 4._o i_o hat_n christ_n have_v not_o make_v baptism_n such_o a_o ordinance_n as_o that_o in_o all_o climate_n and_o countries-and_a region_n they_o must_v go_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n in_o a_o river_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 22._o h._n h._n you_o say_v that_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n as_o high_a as_o to_o the_o apostle_n as_o there_o be_v many_o sufficient_a history_n extant_a inform_v we_o and_o that_o the_o defer_v of_o baptism_n come_v in_o with_o the_o rest_n 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