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A79883 Ministers dues and peoples duty; or A bill of accounts between ministers and people: shewing vvhat people owe unto their ministers; which may also serve to mind ministers, what they are to expect from their people. By Sam. Clark M.A. sometimes fellow of Pembroke-Hall in Cambridg, and now minister of Grendon Under-wood in Buckinghamshire. Clark, Samuel, 1626-1701.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1661 (1661) Wing C4494; Thomason E1057_4; ESTC R204352 37,580 60

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Lord that obeys the voice of his Servant i. e. Priest or Prophet Where by the way Observe That 't is the property of one that truly fears God to obey his Minister 2 Cor. 2.9 For this end did I write that I might know the proof of you whether ye would be obedient in all things a large word And 7.15 His inward affection is more abundant towards you while he remembreth the obedience of you all how with fear and trembling you received him Here 's a universality of persons as in the former place of things All persons must be obedient in all things And this was mystically represented in Ezechiels Vision where the wheels were guided by the four living creatures c See Lightf Descript of Temple c. 38. p. 255. i. e. b people by their Pastors and Ministers Thus much I suppose will be readily and generally granted being so plainly and positively enjoyned all the difficulty is Dub. Concerning the extent of this Obedience How far forth and wherein people are bound to obey their Pastors This therefore we shall a little enquire into and the rather because some who yet pretend great respect and friendship to the Ministery do so clip and restrain it that they make it little more then a meer cipher and leave scarce any thing but the name thereof Solut. In Generall It must be In all things 2 Cor. 2.9 whereby 't is parallel'd with and made as large as the obedience of children to parents Col. 3.20 Servants to Masters ver 22. and wives to their husbands Eph. 5.24 And this I shall branch out into three particulars In necessary Duties undetermined Circumstances and doubtfull points or Cases 1. People must obey their Ministers In those necessary duties plainly laid down in the Word which they declare unto them and in Gods name require their conformity to as Sanctification of the Sabbath performance of Family duties diligence in frequenting the publick Assemblies avoiding drunkenness swearing lying c. Matth. 23.3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe viz. not of their own heads or according to the Traditions of the Elders but which is enjoyned in the Law of God that observe and do People must conform to their advertisements both in obedience to God and them and the neglect hereof is a contempt and disobedience against them as well as against God and rendred censurable by Christ Mat. 18.17 If he neglect to hear the Church sc urging the reformation of scandalous miscarriages let him be c. And is also a great aggravation of their sin 2 Chron. 36.12 He Zedekiah did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord and humbled not himself before Jeremiah the Prophet speaking to him in the name of the Lord. Therefore also the Lord saith Ezek. 33.33 that when that should come to pass viz. which he hath threatned vers 27 29. that they should then know that a Prophet had been among them i. e. their own consciences should in their afflictions aggravate their sin by this circumstance that the Lord had sent his Prophets to them and they had not regarded or obeyed them 2. In those circumstances of publick worship which are necessary in the generall but not particularly determined by God Such are Time as What hour on the Lords day to begin how long to continue together what dayes the Lords Supper shall be administred and how oft when any shall be baptized what day of the Week to keep a Lecture Place as Where the Assembly shall meet where the Minister shall stand to read preach administer the Sacraments and where the people shall sit to hear receive c. Whether the Corpse shall be brought into the Church or stand by the grave or put into it while the solemnity is performing Gesture as To hear sitting or standing with the Hat off or on and so for the Minister to preach to receive the Lords Supper sitting or standing or kneeling Habit as Whether the Minister shall preach in a Cloak or Gown c. of what colour or materialls his cloathes shall be * See a full enumeration of them in Baxt. of Episc p. 400. Many other such circumstances there are which being necessary in generall i. e. such as no action can be performed without and yet not particularly determined by God now under the Gospel and so being left to the prudence of Church-guides to determine of according to the generall Rules of Order Decency Edification c. people ought to yield conformity to such determinations for if a difference should arise concerning any of these circumstances between Pastor and people whether think you fittest should submit Pastor to flock Ruler to ruled or on the contrary See Baxt. of Episc p. 10. Propos 10. 3. In doubtfull points and difficult cases which either they are ignorant in or cannot be satisfied about till they receive satisfaction or understand them themselves and are able to judge of them Heb. 13.7 Whose faith follow For where common people have not time or leasure or ability to study all points of Divinity themselves whom is it more fit they should hearken to and be ruled by then their own Pastors and Teachers as a wife should by her husband and children by their Parents It being to be supposed ordinarily for I speak not of extraordinary cases which may sometimes happen in some places as in the Universities or Innes of Court that they understand themselves better in these things then their people because it 's their business and employment to study them And therefore as we see in all other cases men will usually take the judgements of Artificers in matters that concern their own trade If you have a matter of Law you go to Lawyers of health to Physicians of building to Carpenters c. And if I were to be resolved in a point of Husbandry which I understand not my self I would come to some of you that have been versed and experienced in it all your time and take your judgement rather then mine own because it 's your calling and not mine so ought you in those points you understand not especially controversall points to submit your judgement to ours and to conform your practice to our directions for it being our office to teach you it 's your duty to believe us with a humane faith Oportet discentem credere in cases where you have no evidence to the contrary So that in case a Minister require his people to believe such a point which they know not whether it be a truth or no or conform to such a practice which they know not whether it be lawfull or no then the command of obeying them takes place for the duty of obeying them being certain and the error of the point held forth or unlawfulness of the practice required being uncertain and unknown and only suspected they must go on the surer side But yet withall let me adde That you are not so wholly to rely