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A61458 The church of Rome not sufficiently defended from her apostacy, heresie, and schisme as appears by an answer to certain quæries, printed in a book entituled Fiat Lux, and sent transcribed (as 'tis suppos'd) from thence by a Romanist to a priest of the Church of England. Whereunto are annexed the Romanist's reply to the Protestant's Answer, and the Protestant's rejoynder to that reply. By P.S. D.D. Samways, Peter, 1615-1693. 1663 (1663) Wing S545B; ESTC R222361 39,609 116

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be_v receive_v with_o thanks_o give_v of_o they_o which_o believe_v and_o know_v the_o truth_n and_o will_v not_o this_o apostasy_n concern_v such_o as_o teach_v thus_o than_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o a_o full_a apostasy_n when_o bellarmine_n in_o his_o appendix_n to_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr summo_fw-la pontifice_fw-la call_v luther_n a_o apostate_n he_o speak_v proper_o or_o not_o the_o reply_o i_o hope_v will_v not_o charge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o speak_v incongruous_o and_o yet_o all_o the_o world_n know_v that_o luther_n renounce_v not_o the_o name_n and_o title_n of_o christianity_n neither_o do_v the_o cardinal_n think_v so_o but_o grant_v what_o indeed_o no_o man_n not_o void_a of_o common_a sense_n can_v deny_v that_o there_o may_v be_v a_o partial_a apostasy_n yet_o the_o replyer_n deny_v my_o minor_n as_o he_o call_v it_o where_o i_o instance_n in_o the_o particular_a doctrine_n of_o worship_v image_n invocation_n of_o saint_n halfe-commonion_a corporeall-reall_a presence_n etc._n etc._n i_o because_o assume_v without_o proof_n and_o needs_o there_o proof_n that_o rome_n teach_v