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A28379
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An essay tending to issue the controversie about infant baptism from the parity, at least, of Scripture-light concerning infant-baptim [sic] with that of women's being admitted to the Lord's Supper, shewing that there is as good grounds out of Scripture for the one as for the other : occasioned by a tender made by H.D. in his late book against infant-baptism who is willing to put the whole controversie concerning it, upon this issue : together with an answer to the most material things in that book /
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Eremnalēthēs.
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Wing B3192; ESTC R25634
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of_o explain_v yourself_o your_o word_n seem_v to_o relate_v to_o gal._n 5.2_o 3._o when_o circumcision_n be_v abolish_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n and_o no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n the_o apostle_n tell_v they_o then_o that_o if_o they_o be_v circumcise_a christ_n will_v profit_v they_o nothing_o for_o it_o will_v be_v as_o if_o they_o have_v say_v and_o hold_v that_o christ_n have_v not_o die_v and_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n and_o so_o such_o a_o one_o will_v be_v a_o debtor_n to_o do_v the_o whole_a law_n circumcision_n be_v one_o of_o the_o ordinary_a seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n under_o that_o legal_a dispensation_n until_o christ_n shall_v come_v to_o fulfil_v the_o law_n will_v now_o by_o their_o abuse_n and_o pervert_v of_o it_o engage_v they_o to_o perform_v perfect_a obedience_n to_o the_o whole_a law_n in_o their_o own_o person_n under_o penalty_n of_o eternal_a damnation_n he_o speak_v to_o such_o as_o it_o seem_v will_v join_v their_o own_o performance_n and_o legal_a ceremony_n and_o christ_n righteousness_n together_o so_o that_o this_o do_v not_o reach_v your_o purpose_n for_o you_o speak_v of_o circumcision_n as_o it_o be_v a_o bless_a ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o force_n engage_v the_o jew_n to_o keep_v the_o whole_a law_n of_o moses_n in_o a_o evangelical_n manner_n look_v to_o christ_n alone_o for_o righteousness_n to_o justify_v they_o and_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o now_o abolish_v by_o christ_n and_o pervert_v by_o some_o of_o these_o galatian_n who_o will_v make_v a_o mixture_n of_o their_o own_o personal_a righteousness_n the_o legal_a ceremony_n and_o christ_n righteousness_n together_o in_o the_o business_n of_o their_o justification_n as_o for_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o phrase_n have_v you_o tell_v we_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o what_o by_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n we_o shall_v then_o have_v be_v able_a to_o judge_v of_o your_o argument_n but_o now_o it_o must_v remain_v with_o yourself_o if_o in_o moses_n law_n you_o include_v the_o moral-law_n i_o must_v assert_v that_o that_o also_o be_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n and_o bring_v under_o christ_n for_o gospel-ends_a which_o i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o deny_v thus_o much_o to_o the_o four_o 5._o circumcision_n say_v you_o be_v administer_v to_o all_o abraham_n natural_a seed_n without_o any_o profession_n of_o faith_n repentance_n or_o regeneration_n whereas_o baptism_n to_o the_o spiritual_a seed_n be_v only_o upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n etc._n etc._n which_o more_o full_o appear_v by_o three_o instance_n etc._n etc._n for_o answer_v 1._o it_o be_v by_o god_n command_n to_o be_v do_v upon_o infant_n of_o inchurched-parent_n who_o be_v not_o capable_a then_o of_o make_v any_o such_o profession_n and_o we_o know_v no_o absurdity_n that_o baptism_n shall_v now_o be_v administer_v to_o infant_n of_o inchurched-parent_n though_o they_o can_v make_v no_o such_o profession_n of_o faith_n etc._n etc._n 2._o circumcision_n be_v administer_v not_o only_o to_o all_o abraham_n natural_a seed_n but_o to_o his_o church-seed_n to_o wit_n proselyte_n and_o their_o male-children_n and_o the_o child_n of_o his_o servant_n who_o be_v themselves_o circumcise_a 12.48_o exod._n 12.48_o when_o abraham_n be_v gen._n 17._o 3._o as_o for_o adult-person_n to_o be_v circumcise_v why_o be_v not_o the_o same_o or_o like_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n require_v of_o they_o as_o of_o abraham_n himself_o god_n require_v of_o he_o the_o fruit_n and_o effect_n of_o both_o and_o that_o before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v gen._n 17.1_o i_o be_o god_n almighty_a walk_v before_o i_o and_o be_v upright_o and_o how_o can_v he_o do_v so_o either_o invisible_o to_o man_n or_o visible_o without_o believe_v and_o regeneration_n suitable_a to_o those_o yourself_o grant_v that_o abraham_n receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o the_o faith_n which_o he_o have_v before_o and_o it_o be_v a_o impregnable_a truth_n that_o circumcision_n do_v mediate_o signify_v and_o seal_v regeneration_n jer._n 4.4_o with_o deut._n 30.6_o and_o heart-circumcision_n as_o yourself_o have_v grant_v p._n 223._o how_o therefore_o can_v you_o prove_v that_o those_o of_o year_n that_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_a be_v to_o make_v no_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o regeneration_n it_o be_v probable_a that_o it_o be_v not_o indeed_o so_o manifest_a and_o express_v as_o what_o be_v require_v now_o in_o gospel-time_n but_o that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o at_o all_o suitable_a to_o the_o church_n under_o that_o dispensation_n be_v gratis_o dictum_fw-la and_o without_o proof_n do_v proselyte_n make_v no_o kind_n of_o profession_n of_o faith_n before_o circumcision_n how_o then_o can_v the_o church_n of_o israel_n know_v what_o difference_n there_o be_v between_o they_o and_o their_o heathen_a neighbour_n do_v they_o no_o more_o but_o offer_v themselves_o to_o be_v circumcise_a only_o and_o do_v the_o church_n admit_v they_o upon_o that_o offer_n without_o any_o further_a transaction_n certain_o that_o will_v have_v be_v the_o way_n to_o make_v bad_a church-work_n when_o you_o give_v better_a proof_n we_o shall_v either_o embrace_v or_o else_o answer_v your_o argument_n i_o now_o come_v to_o examine_v your_o three_o instance_n first_o what_o you_o mean_v by_o a_o spiritual-parent_n i_o can_v understand_v only_o i_o guess_v you_o mean_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o then_o that_o instance_n as_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o a_o inchurch_v parent_n both_o then_o and_o now_o gives_z right_a to_o the_o initiatory_a seal_n to_o the_o child_n second_o because_o say_v you_o a_o legal_a 222._o p._n 222._o ecclesiastical_a typical_a holiness_n when_o land_n house_n and_o tree_n be_v holy_a qualify_v for_o circumcision_n whereas_o only_a evangelical_n and_o personal_a holiness_n be_v a_o meet_a qualification_n for_o baptism_n i_o answer_v as_o ecclesiastical_a and_o federal_n holiness_n qualify_v for_o circumcision_n of_o old_a so_o ecclesiastical_a and_o federal_n holiness_n do_v now_o for_o baptism_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v what_o you_o mean_v by_o typical_a holiness_n here_o and_o of_o what_o be_v typical_a i_o understand_v not_o because_o you_o have_v not_o here_o declare_v it_o but_o you_o seem_v to_o make_v the_o holiness_n of_o child_n then_o the_o same_o with_o land_n and_o tree_n be_v the_o federal_a holiness_n of_o child_n then_o the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o land_n and_o tree_n if_o there_o be_v not_o now_o a_o evangelical-ecclesiastical-holiness_n what_o holiness_n be_v that_o which_o a_o hypocrite_n have_v who_o you_o baptise_v a_o legal-ecclesiastical_a holiness_n it_o be_v not_o for_o that_o say_v you_o be_v past_a and_o go_v typical_a holiness_n it_o be_v not_o for_o that_o be_v it_o what_o you_o please_v to_o call_v it_o be_v also_o vanish_v real_a spiritual-holiness_n it_o be_v not_o for_o he_o be_v a_o hypocrite_n what_o then_o will_v you_o call_v it_o if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o evangelical-ecclesiastical_a and_o federal_n holiness_n it_o be_v none_o at_o all_o and_o why_o then_o be_v he_o baptise_a three_o say_v you_o because_o stranger_n and_o servant_n buy_v with_o money_n and_o all_o ignorant_a child_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a yea_o tree_n be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n whereas_o only_a man_n of_o understand_v capable_a to_o believe_v with_o all_o their_o heart_n and_o give_v a_o account_n with_o their_o mouth_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v capable_a subject_n of_o baptism_n i_o answer_v 1._o be_v not_o those_o stranger_n and_o servant_n buy_v with_o money_n man_n capable_a of_o understanding_n 2._o be_v they_o not_o instruct_v by_o abraham_n before_o they_o be_v circumcise_a abraham_n be_v a_o long_a time_n a_o believer_n before_o god_n put_v he_o and_o his_o family_n into_o that_o church-estate_n and_o command_v they_o to_o be_v circumcise_a as_o you_o will_v easy_o grant_v and_o god_n speak_v of_o he_o as_o one_o that_o have_v experience_n of_o abraham_n care_n industry_n and_o faithfulness_n that_o way_n gen._n 18.19_o and_o how_o do_v you_o know_v that_o god_n give_v not_o a_o blessing_n to_o his_o endeavour_n at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o that_o they_o outward_o make_v some_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o regeneration_n suitable_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o day_n be_v it_o probable_a or_o rational_a to_o think_v that_o abraham_n run_v upon_o the_o man_n of_o his_o family_n as_o upon_o a_o company_n of_o bruit_n beast_n to_o circumcise_v they_o without_o instruct_v they_o what_o the_o mind_n of_o god_n be_v in_o it_o sure_o that_o have_v be_v to_o deal_v with_o beast_n and_o not_o with_o men._n 3._o child_n of_o inchurched-parent_n of_o eight_o day_n old_a be_v capable_a of_o circumcision_n then_o and_o so_o they_o be_v of_o baptism_n now_o though_o they_o can_v give_v a_o account_n with_o their_o mouth_n
you_o abraham_n seed_n etc._n etc._n man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v christ_n and_o also_o to_o be_v abraham_n seed_n 1._o spiritual_o and_o invisible_o 2._o ecclesiastical_o and_o visible_o only_a 1._o spiritual_o and_o invisible_o as_o to_o man_n in_o foro_fw-la dei_fw-la before_o god_n alone_o who_o be_v the_o only_a knower_n and_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o tryer_n of_o the_o reins_o and_o so_o none_o be_v abraham_n seed_n but_o such_o as_o do_v true_o and_o savingly-believe_a as_o abraham_n do_v this_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o god_n elect_n and_o peculiar_a to_o such_o as_o shall_v be_v save_v 2._o ecclesiastical_o and_o visible_o in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la before_o man_n only_o to_o the_o visible-church_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n all_o such_o as_o make_v a_o rational_a and_o credible_a profession_n of_o faith_n in_o christ_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o rational-charity_n in_o a_o churchway_n they_o be_v christ_n and_o abraham_n seed_n and_o then_o it_o amount_v to_o this_o to_o wit_n if_o you_o be_v christ_n spiritual_o then_o be_v you_o abraham_n seed_n spiritual_o and_o shall_v be_v eternally-blessed_n with_o faithful_a abraham_n and_o if_o you_o be_v christ_n ecclesiastically-on_o and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n of_o the_o church-on_o then_o be_v you_o also_o abraham_n seed_n ecclesiastical_o only_o and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n only_o and_o may_v expect_v only_o a_o external_n and_o temporal_a blessing_n and_o so_o we_o have_v the_o exposition_n also_o of_o gal._n 3.9_o and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o apostle_n sense_n be_v plain_a in_o this_o chapter_n and_o in_o other_o place_n of_o this_o epistle_n you_o be_v all_o say_v he_o the_o child_n of_o god_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n gal._n 3.26_o be_v they_o indeed_o all_o of_o they_o true_a believer_n and_o so_o all_o of_o they_o child_n of_o god_n spiritual_o and_o saving_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n tell_v they_o he_o be_v afraid_a of_o they_o some_o of_o they_o at_o least_o that_o will_v be_v under_o the_o law_n lest_o he_o have_v bestow_v upon_o they_o labour_n in_o vain_a and_o that_o he_o travel_v with_o they_o in_o birth_n again_o till_o christ_n be_v form_v in_o they_o gal._n 4.11.19_o they_o make_v a_o better_o show_v once_o chap._n 3.1.3_o 4._o and_o chap._n 4.15_o but_o now_o he_o be_v in_o doubt_n of_o they_o &_o yet_o these_o he_o call_v the_o child_n of_o god_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n jesus_n they_o be_v yet_o so_o external_o be_v yet_o a_o church_n of_o god_n though_o at_o present_a trouble_a and_o seduce_v by_o false_a teacher_n from_o who_o error_n he_o hope_v and_o labour_v to_o recover_v they_o take_v another_o text_n like_a unto_o this_o gal._n 3.2.7_o as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o have_v be_v baptize_v into_o christ_n have_v put_v on_o christ_n and_o v._o 28._o you_o be_v all_o one_o in_o christ_n jesus_n undoubted_o if_o they_o have_v put_v on_o christ_n spiritual_o and_o save_o they_o will_v never_o have_v put_v he_o off_o again_o and_o have_v they_o be_v once_o in_o jesus_n christ_n spiritual_o and_o save_o they_o will_v never_o have_v go_v out_o of_o he_o again_o it_o be_v manifest_a therefore_o that_o some_o of_o they_o put_v he_o on_o and_o be_v in_o he_o external_o only_a and_o in_o outward_a profession_n only_o before_o men._n for_o such_o branch_n there_o be_v find_v in_o christ_n the_o true_a vine_n consider_v as_o head_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n john_n 15.2.6_o and_o our_o brethren_n must_v experimental_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o their_o congregation_n too_o often_o what_o you_o say_v pag._n 37._o that_o nothing_o short_a of_o the_o spirits-birth_n can_v orderly-admit_a to_o water-birth_n i._n e._n baptism_n i_o suppose_v you_o mean_v and_o spiritual_a ordinance_n be_v full_o answer_v to_o before_o as_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o person_n make_v a_o credible_a profession_n of_o the_o spirit_n birth_n to_o the_o judgement_n of_o rational-charity_n guide_v in_o judge_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o of_o the_o word_n may_v orderly_o be_v admit_v to_o water-birth_n as_o you_o phrase_v it_o and_o spiritual-ordinance_n as_o appear_v by_o simon_n magus_n and_o other_o who_o yet_o have_v but_o a_o show_n of_o the_o spirits-birth_n &_o not_o the_o truth_n and_o reality_n of_o it_o act_n 8.8_o with_o v._o 22.23_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o man_n who_o can_v see_v direct_o immediate_o and_o infallible_o into_o the_o heart_n be_v to_o judge_v of_o they_o the_o same_o answer_n will_v serve_v to_o that_o of_o christ_n to_o nicodemus_n and_o to_o that_o which_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o dr._n owen_n and_o as_o to_o that_o of_o dr._n taylor_n it_o be_v suitable_a to_o his_o boldness_n and_o design_n &_o gratis_o dictum_fw-la and_o there_o may_v rest_v till_o he_o give_v we_o some_o scripture-proof_n chap._n vi_o your_o assertion_n and_o proof_n in_o your_o six_o chapter_n have_v respect_n only_o to_o immediate_a and_o grown-member_n who_o alone_o we_o acknowledge_v be_v capable_a of_o the_o direction_n and_o privilege_n you_o mention_v child_n of_o such_o be_v but_o mediate-member_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o be_v such_o as_o to_o who_o those_o thing_n do_v not_o belong_v the_o apostle_n therefore_o mention_n the_o duty_n &_o privilege_n of_o immediate_a &_o adult-member_n only_o i_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o a_o gospel-church_n be_v constitute_v of_o infant_n but_o of_o grown-person_n profess_v visible_a saint_n and_o to_o such_o the_o apostle_n speak_v yet_o the_o infant_n of_o such_o be_v also_o member_n though_o of_o another_o kind_n the_o church_n may_v be_v a_o church_n though_o there_o be_v at_o present_a never_o a_o infant_n in_o it_o but_o i_o question_v whether_o it_o be_v so_o if_o there_o be_v no_o man_n grown-person_n in_o it_o i_o will_v ask_v whether_o woman_n be_v capable_a of_o all_o those_o direction_n give_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o those_o church_n you_o may_v as_o well_o say_v they_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n because_o they_o be_v not_o subject_n capacitate_v for_o those_o direction_n woman_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o church-judging_a and_o some_o other_o church-act_n therefore_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n i_o suppose_v you_o will_v not_o like_o such_o argue_v if_o infant_n be_v not_o member_n because_o they_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o the_o apostle_n direction_n to_o the_o church_n then_o woman_n must_v not_o be_v member_n because_o they_o also_o be_v uncapable_a of_o they_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v to_o be_v true_a that_o those_o first_o inventor_n of_o infant-baptism_n as_o you_o style_v they_o do_v so_o miserable_o miss_v it_o in_o the_o subject_n apply_v the_o spiritual_a ordinance_n to_o ignorant_a babe_n yet_o childish_o ridiculous_a be_v too_o slight_a a_o expression_n for_o so_o miserable_a a_o mistake_n but_o you_o have_v not_o yet_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v such_o inventor_n of_o infant-baptism_n the_o scripture_n give_v we_o ground_n to_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v on_o foot_n long_o before_o those_o inventor_n you_o intimate_v and_o that_o god_n in_o christ_n be_v the_o inventor_n of_o it_o the_o ground_n of_o which_o we_o have_v show_v in_o christ_n commission_n already_o as_o for_o some_o that_o hold_v paedo-baptism_n let_v they_o maintain_v their_o own_o principle_n and_o practice_n if_o they_o can_v i_o think_v some_o can_v never_o justify_v they_o by_o gospel-rule_n and_o i_o believe_v it_o have_v be_v a_o occasion_n to_o many_o 7.14_o beza_n in_o 1_o cor._n 7.14_o to_o turn_v against_o paedo-baptism_n for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o be_o of_o beza_n mind_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v confute_v that_o admit_v all_o infant_n to_o baptism_n a_o thing_n say_v he_o unheard_a of_o in_o all_o the_o ancient_a church_n yea_o i_o shall_v add_v nor_o any_o but_o such_o one_o of_o who_o parent_n at_o least_o be_v of_o a_o gospel-church_n and_o so_o the_o child_n a_o mediate-member_n thereof_o who_o afterward_o must_v not_o be_v admit_v as_o a_o immediate-member_n and_o partake_v of_o all_o church-ordinance_n without_o his_o own_o credible_a profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o enter_v into_o covenant_n in_o his_o own_o person_n this_o will_v remove_v many_o scruple_n and_o objection_n which_o they_o can_v well_o free_v themselves_o from_o that_o practise_v otherwise_o chap._n vii_o to_o your_o seven_o chapter_n testimony_n of_o council_n and_o learned_a men._n you_o say_v you_o produce_v not_o humane_a authority_n for_o any_o proof_n but_o by_o way_n of_o illustration_n etc._n etc._n to_o make_v manifest_a that_o not_o only_a scripture-authority_n but_o even_o antiquity_n itself_o be_v altogether_o for_o believer_n and_o not_o for_o infant's-baptism_n in_o answer_n to_o which_o i_o shall_v at_o present_a return_v these_o thing_n that_o follow_v 1._o that_o we_o build_v not_o infants-baptism_n on_o humane_a authority_n