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A52708 The Catholick answer to the seekers request in a letter directed to the seeker, proving the real presence, by the Scripture only N. N. 1687 (1687) Wing N30; ESTC R43473 5,026 10

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THE Catholick Answer TO THE Seekers Request IN A LETTER Directed to the SEEKER Proving the Real Presence BY The SCRIPTURE only Mark 16.16 He that Believeth and is Baptized shall be Saved but he that Believeth not shall be Damn'd LONDON Printed for John and Thomas Lane at the Sign of the Golden-Anchor at the Corner of Wild-street nexr Duke-street 1687. The Catholick Answer to the Seekers Request c. SIR YOUR Request happening to a Press of my Acquaintance gave Me the Opportunity of an early Perusal near the End whereof I found Your plain Dealing with the Gentlemen Ministers of the Church of England telling them Pag. 8. in these or the like Words That 't was Your being in Discourse with a Gentleman of the Catholick Perswasion that moved You to this way of Tryal who boldly affirm'd That he would prove the Catholick Doctrine of the Real Presence by the Express Word of God out of Your own Bibles and that he Challeng'd all England to produce him so much as One plain Text from the Beginning of Genesis to the End of the Revelations to prove the Contrary if they could then he would be of Their Religion or of any Other They'd appoint him which if he parted with his Own he thought 't was all 's one Upon reading whereof I found my self concern'd as being the very Person with whom You had the said Discourse wherein I own to have utter'd the above Expressions or Words to that Effect And what I said then I 'll still perform tho' for a single Man to Challenge all England I confess was a little Rash but in the Sense I spake it I again confirm it that is I will prove the Cotholick Doctrine of the Real Presence by the Bible only and I defie the World to produce Me One plain Text to prove the Contrary if they can I will be of Their Religion or any other They 'll appoint For if there be any more than One Religion True there may be Forty But upon the whole I find You are resolved to try what Scriptures We have for it and what Protestants have against it wherein I am so far from blaming You that I highly Applaud and Commend Your Zeal to know the Truth especially in a Matter of no less Importance to You than an Eternity of Bliss or Torments for as You have well Noted Pag. 3. that Without Faith it is impossible to please God Heb. 11.6 and that the Faith which is pleasing to God Ephes 4.5 is But One so without pleasing of God by Believing this One Faith 't is Impossible to be Saved Mark 16.6 according to St. Mark He that Believeth not shall be Damn'd And St. James tells us That whoever Offendeth in One Point Jam. 2.10 He is Guilty of All But because this Discourse tends to a Controversie of another Nature I am not willing to pursue it and therefore do set forward to the Matter in Question which is That You may be satisfied in the great point of the Lord's Supper by the Scripture only and not by several ways of Arguing as is usual c. to which I submit and accordingly shall endeavour to perform the best I can But first You desire to know Pag. 4. What it is We Believe of the Lord's Supper Whereunto I answer and resolve in the Affirmative of what You your Self propose or in plain terms I Firmly and Truly Believe by the same Faith I believe a God That in the Eucharist or Sacrament as You call it of the Lord's Supper as Celebrated in the Catholick Church is Truly Really and Substantially contain'd under the Forms of Bread and Wine the True Body and Blood together with the Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the self-same Substance wherein he now Sitteth at the Right Hand of the Father which is in Heaven and that is in the very Substance wherein He was Born of the Virgin and wherein He Lived and Dyed for Vs with this Difference only That He was Visible to the Eye of Flesh then and Invisible to the same now for with Our Mortal Eyes we can no more see Him sitting at the Right Hand of the Father which is in Heaven than we can see Him in Form and Substance in the Sacrament of the Lord's-Supper which is on Earth tho' by the Eye of Faith we See and Believe him as Firmly in the One as Substantially in the Other For could We with Our Eyes and Sense of Flesh See Feel Smell and Taste if we could distinguish the Flesh and Blood of Christ in the Sacrament it would not be of Faith for according to St. Paul Faith is the Evividence of Things not seen Heb. 11.1 that is By Faith we Believe what we cannot See nor by the Sense of Flesh comprehend For as Our Saviour said in the Gospel according to St. John John 6.63 The Flesh profitteth nothing it is the Spirit that quickeneth but as Our Sacred Lord said in the next Verse John 6.64 There are some of You that Believe not and I am Sorry for it especially for You from the bottom of my Heart without Equivocation or Mental Reservation to the contrary which are Maxims We utterly abhor in all Cases wherein any thing of Sincerity Truth or Good of Our Neighbour is concern'd tho' by the Enemies of Truth it is father'd upon Us as a Fundamental of Our Faith but that I may not Digress from the intent You are upon I return to tell You That in the above I have Truly and Really laid down the Substance of what We Believe of the Lord's-Supper which Doctrine of the Real Presence and Being of Christ's Body and Blood in the Sacrament I Affirm and Prove by the Express Words of God Himself in the following Texts as taken from a Bible of Your own Printed at London by Bonham Norton and John Bill in the Year 1628. And as the Bible is Asserted by D. T. in a late Conference to be the Protestant Rule of Faith so I hope no Protestant will refuse to be Tryed by his own Rule tho' I fear whoever Answers Your Request of the Protestant Party that he will be forced to fly from his Rule and betake himself to Equivocation and twenty other Figures and Fancies of his own for he will never be able to stand by his Rule nor will his Rule ever stand by him Wherefore to the Summ of Your Request which is That We should lay down all the Scripture We can to prove the Affirmative of Our Part and That the Act of Parliament Establish'd Ministers should produce all the Scripture They can or have to prove the Negative of Their Part I say the Negative for That they Deny what We Affirm for Truth and this I find is the Pro and Con that You 'd be Resolved in and that the Methods You take are as it were Justiciary i.e. to hear the Evidence on Both Sides the Scriptures as You Repute'em being the Recorded