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A91468 Goliahs head cut off with his own sword; in a combat betwixt little David, the young stripling, who stands in the power and strength of his God, and great Goliah the proud boaster, who stands in his own strength, glorifying in the arm of flesh, and contemning and despising little David, because of his youth. In a reply to a book, set forth by an un-named author, under pretence of an answer to thirty six queries, propounded by James Parnell, whom he in scorn calls, the young Quaker. And also an answer to severall counter-queries, propounded by the same unnamed authour, whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton, a teacher of the world, at Abbey Rippon, in Huntingtonshire, ... and also he that takes his part, who writes himself W.P. who knowes not the power of God, and therefore glories in the length of time, and the multitude of years. ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the armies of the aliens, who muster up themselves against the Lord, and his authority: by a friend to the common-wealth of Israel, who is known to the world, by the name James Parnel. Who is a sufferer in outward bonds, for the testimony of the everlasting truth, in Colchester Castle. 1655. Parnell, James, 1637?-1656. 1655 (1655) Wing P531; Thomason E861_1; ESTC R203310 65,568 94

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thy ignorance of the true spirit and therefore thou and such false Prophets as thou thus smites at and persecutes us that are called Quakers because the Lord is pleased to bestow his spirit upon us whereby we are able to declare your deceipt and manifest your lying spirits who have professed your selves the Ministers of Christ yet strangers to his spirit and opposers of his truth like Jannes and Jambres who are men of corrupt mindes and Reprobates concerning the faith 2 Tim. 3.8 And to the second part of the Query thou sayst P. Ans that the wind doth blow where it listeth if it be not stopped yet are there many false windes which blow likewise from a deceiptful spirit which to prove thou quotest Eph. 4.14 that we henceforth be no more Children tossed to and fro with every winde of Doctrine and sayst Minde this James This I do minde and still sees how thou markest out thy selfe with thy deceiptfull spirit Rep. for if the winde do blowe where it listeth which thou acknowledgest then what is that in you professed Ministers which goes about to stop it with gainsaying and persecution and would limit the spirit of God unto a Text or Theme from which you with your deceitful spirits do raise uses points tryalls and motives c. whereby many poore Creatures are tossed to and fro and carried about with your airy spirits with the slight and cunning craftiness of your brains whereby you study to deceive as thou mayst read in the latter end of the verse which thou hast quoted Ephes 4.14 which here shall stand against thee and so many are the Children which are tossed to and fro by you although they have both beards and age as thou sayst yea some are 30. some 40 some 50 some 60 yea 80. and never yet come to the knowledge of the truth and thus with feigned words through covetousness you make Marchandize of the people beguiling unstable souls but think not that all you false Prophets with the beast that upholds you can stop or quench this spirit which now bloweth where it listeth for with all the slight and craftiness that you can use you shall be made to fall before it and the fruits of your labours shall be given you Whether thou wilt own immediate Revelation now Query 7. yea or nay And in thy Answer thou sayst P. Ans the Apostle teacheth you to pray for the spirit of wisdom and Revelation in the acknowledgement of God which to prove thou quotes Ephes 1.17 but sayst there are many false lights and delusions of Sathan who too often transforms himselfe as an Angel of Light 2 Cor. 11.14 which thou sayst are entertained by unwary men for the Illuminations and Revelations of Gods spirit as appears in Zedekiah aforesaid which to prove thou quotes Ezek. 13.6 2 Thes 2.11 Here again thou hast marked out thy selfe Reply and also belies the Apostle for that Scripture in Ephes 1.17 onely makes mention how the Apostle prayed for the Ephesians that believed but it doth not at all prove that the Apostle taught you that are of the world to pray for the prayers of the wicked are abhominable Prov. 15 8. and the Apostle would not teach such to pray and though in thy Answer the substance of my Query is confessed yet it doth not serve to prove that thou dost witness it in thy selfe or own it where it is possessed who would barre it from youth and limit it to time and age and so shewes thy ignorance of it and that by the false lights and delusions of Satan thou art deceived who in thee rules as an Angel of Light and so thou art one of those unwary men who takes a lying spirit for an infallible spirit as is both here and often before proved who art found in Zedekiahs steps and so art one of those false Prophets which the Prophet speaks of who saith the Lord saith when he never spoke to thee as is before proved and how long have you professed Ministers of this Nation fed the people with expectations and hopes that you would confirm what you have spoken unto them which is not yet come to passe neither likely and thus you have deceived them by your lying divinations for your dishonest gain and therefore for this cause God hath given you up to strong delusions that you should believe a lie that you all might be damned who believe not the truth now it is come unto you but still take pleasure in unrighteousness as in those Scriptures aforesaid which thou hast quoted against thy selfe and so they shall stand What is the Gospel which thou art a Minister of Qu 8. and whether thy Gospel be free and without charge And in thy Answer thou sayst to the first part P. Ans that the Gospel which thou preachest is the same which Christ and his Apostles taught which thou sayst is summarily contained in these four verses Tit. 2.11 12 13 14. wherein the Apostle speaks of the grace of God to be their Teacher to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live soberly justly and godlily in this present World c. And to the second part thou sayst the Apostles Gospel was not every way without charge which to prove thou quotes 2 Cor. 11.8 and again thou sayst Nor hath Christ or any of his Apostles imposed it upon you that the Gospel should be altogether without charge unto them which have it taught which to prove thou quotes Rom. 15.27 And again thou sayst nor is James Parnells Gospel be it right or wrong without charge If he do not take more then it is worth if duly examined it is well Thy Spirit is much against James Parnell Rep. as Zedekia's was against Michajah yet here he can prove thee to be a lier and not onely against him but of his Lord also and therefore if thou beliest the Lord how much more the servant Joh. 1.29 for Christ Jesus the Lambe of God was the Gospel which the Apostles preached which was free and not chargeable to any though he was and is a burdensom stone to them that beleive not in him yet not chargeable And therefore thou blasphemer how darest thou to open thy mouth thus against the Lord and his anointed who art still in thy ungodlinesse and worldly lustes who art pleading for the earth and art a stranger to the free grace of God and therefore these verses which thou hast set downe shall stand to witnesse against thee which thou saist containeth the Gospel which thou preachest but the Apostles Gospel could not be contained in Paper Inke for the heavens could not containe him for he ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things and also of thy Gospel thou makest a trade and a gaine Eph. 4.10 being many yeares at an University as thou calest it to learn to preach it all which the Apostles did not and so thou bringest another
GOLIAHS HEAD Cut off with his own Sword In a Combat betwixt little David The young Stripling who stands in the power and strength of his God and great Goliah the proud Boaster who stands in his own strength glorifying in the arm of flesh and contemning and despising little David because of his youth In a Reply to a Book set forth by an un-named Author under pretence of an Answer to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell whom he in scorn calls the young Quaker And also an Answer to severall Counter-Queries propounded by the same unnamed Authour whom I understand to be one Thomas Draton A Teacher of the World at Abbey Rippon in Huntingtonshire wherein his folly and ignorance is much layd open and the pride and deceipt of his spirit much manifested And also he that takes his part who writes himself W. P. who knowes not the power of God and therefore glories in the Length of time and the multitude of years But Solomon who was a wiser man then great Goliah said that the honourable age is not that which is of long time neither that which is measured by the Number of years but wisdom is the gray hair and an undefiled life is old Age. And therefore let not the wise man glory in his wisdom nor the strong man glory in his strength for it is vanity Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in the behalf of Israel against the Armies of the Aliens who muster up themselves against the Lord and his Authority by a friend to the Common-wealth of Israel who is known to the World by the name James Parnel Who is a sufferer in outward bonds for the testimony of the everlasting truth in Colchester Castle 1655. London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. The Title of the aforesaid Book An Answer according to truth that trembles not nor quakes nor quaileth given to thirty six Queries propounded by James Parnell commonly called the young Quaker to an ancient Country Minister with some Counter-Queries by the said Minister unto the said young Quack and his fellows HEre thou mayst be ashamed to stile thy selfe an ancient Minister Reply Heb. 12.21 Jer. 23.9 Job 4.14 Ezek. 12.10 who manifests such an Ishmaels spirit who with reproachfull words makes a scoffe at the power of truth which the Ministers of God in all ages witnessed which made them to quake and tremble And though the truth neither quake nor quaileth yet all that owned the truth owned and witnessed quaking and trembling which truth thou manifests thy selfe but a professor of and a stranger to the power and a despiser thereof and therefore out from among the Ministers of Christ thou art raised Eccles 12.3 And thy Answer is not according to truth but a Lie as shall further be made to appear hereafter by him whom thou calls the young Quack and it seems fear surpriseth the heart of the Hypocrite P F. 22.14 15. Priest so that thou art ashamed to own thy work with thy name And whereas thou sayst Courteous Reader we are forced notwithstanding so many Pāphlets extant against the people called Quakers to give answer to thirty six Queries of James Parnells the young Quaker Although thou hast boasted thy selfe an ancient Minister Rep. and contemns me as a young Boy yet here it appears that thou art glad of others to help thee to answer my Queries as these words before mentioned doth testifie And yet it is but a Pamphlet as thou and thy helpers do confess that those many are that are extant against the people called Quakers And then thou run on in way of reproach and scorn against me because of my youth but the wisdom of Solomon answereth you That a poor and wise Child is better then an old foolish King who will no more be admonished Eccles 4.13 And therefore when you think of your age consider also your folly and let that stop your mouthes from professing your selves Ancients who manifests such a Light scornful spirit and hates to be reformed And whereas thou sayst thou doubtest not Priest but his Queries are the dictates of others deceiving and being deceived which they yet put under the Boyes name for the Credit of their cause Here also without doubt Rep. thy unbelieving heart is manifested who without ground measurest others according to thine own heart who because thou makest use of the dictates of others as here doth plainly appear therefore censurest others which doth not adde credit to thy cause because thou boasts of thy age But according as thou believes Priest so be it to thee yet nevertheless thou shalt finde that the truth I shall maintain against thee who with thy unbelieving heart art deceiving and being deceived and then thou runs on in the pride of thy spirit accusing of me to be ignorant of the truth of God because as thou sayst Priest of the false wording of my Queries But with shame might thou speak it Rep. for openly hast thou manifested to the understanding Reader thy selfe to be a meer stranger both to God and his truth also who would limit the truth of God to a humane art which many of the Children of God had not Act. 4.13 and therefore the power of God was the more manifested And when Peter and John was brought before the learned men to wit the chief Priests and the Rulers and they wondered at them because they perceived they was unlearned men and thus with thy wisdom and thy great learning thou art shut out of the truth in the naturall but by this I do not own thy accusation to be truth against me for I have a Copy of the Queries of my own hand writing which was the originall of those that was sent to thee which will bear testimony against thee to be a false accuser and how thou thy selfe hast wronged them and misworded them because they was in the crosse unto thy wisdom And to maintain this thou bringest a story in Erasmus nevertheless the story which thou bringest doth not at all touch me but may fitly be returned into thy new bosom where it shall lie Then thou and thy Agent beseeches the Reader to read without partiality which if he do he will judge no otherwise of you then as I have declared but will see how you have uttered forth your folly and foamed out your shame in going about to contradict the truth And at the end of this your Epistle to the Reader I finde W. P. which I judge to be one of thy Agents to this your shamefull work to which thou darst not own thy name My first Querie Where 1 Qu P An. and how and by what wast thou called to the Ministry which thou professest And in thy answer to this Querie thou goest about to plead many excuses whereby to fly the answering of my Queries saying it is easier for him that is yet in
will deny the profitableness of your teaching for like people like Priest Hos 4.9 2 Tim. 4.3 as the Prophet said and you are the heaps of teachers that deceive the world and draw itching eares after you who cannot endure sound Doctrine with your fained entising words of mens wisdom but the Teacher of the true Church is but one which is its head even Christ who speaks with Power and Authority and not as you Scribes whose teaching is a profitable teaching as is much witnessed in these latter dayes Mat. 7.29 to your great shame and grief who have been the professed Teachers of the Church of England this many years neither doth any of these Scritpures prove that ever Christ or his Apostles took a Text of Scripture and by humane art and study did raise Uses Points Trialls and Motives as you do which is a commendable teaching 1 Cor. 1.18 1 Cor. 2.4 by the wise ones of the world who know not the wisdom of God but to them the preaching of the Crosse is foolishness as was accounted amongst the Greeks because the Apostle came not with entising words of mens wisdom as you do to please men but in plainness of speech spoke the word of the Lord faithfully and also said If he yet sought to please men he should not be the Servant of Christ Gal. 1.10 but this is all your care whose trust is in man and not in Christ and in all those Scriptures when Christ or his Apostles spoke of a Text of Scripture out of the old Testament it was to shew the fulfilling thereof or to witness to what they had said but you will take these Scriptures for to give your carnall meanings and interpretations of them and so from them speak a divination of your own brain for gain and lucre and this is the use you make of these points as thou calles them which the Scriptures before mentioned will not at all maintain and yet thou canst impudently quote this Scripture in Mat. 6.25.34 which forbids taking thought what to eat what to drink and wherewithall to be cloathed when it is so publickly known that it is your greatest care and that which thou hast been here much labouring to maintain all along to prove it lawful for thee to take nigh 200. or 300. pounds by the year of the world yea and for a Law to compell them if they refuse to give it and yet thou art not ashamed to say that thou dost not go in the way of Balaam for gifts and rewards and the chiefest Scripture which thou hast here quoted will witness against thee as 2 Tim. 3.16 17. which saith the Scripture was given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for reproof for correction and instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfected throughly furnished unto every good work but thou hates to be reproved and calles them foul-mouthed currs and the like that do reprove thee and thou teachest for Doctrine the traditions of men as to call a house of Lime and Stone a Church and the like as is before proved And how have you by all your Doctrines reproof correction and instruction this many years perfected any when as the professors therein are earthly minded as thou sayst P. Ans and you that are therefore Teachers the most of all and most of you denies perfection in this life and though thou with thy tongue profess it yet in life denies it which is worst of all and so I take thee and though thou hast been so pleading for thy way yet thou sayst you would change it for a better if any can shew it you and make your hearers beleive that it would be more advantages for them but thou saist this trade of interpreting the Scripture is an old and a good trade which to prove thou quotes Iob. 33.23 Psal 10.2 3. Pro. 1.6 Act. 8.3 Here thou blind guide Reply thy nakednesse is open to the world and thy hearers may consider it who have looked upon thee as their Teacher this many yeares and yet thou thy selfe still to learne which is the best way when as there is but one true way then thou who art ignorant of this true way must needs be in a false way then how hast thou deluded thy hearets this many yeares Jer. 32.39 and also belyed thy selfe in thy Booke And if the Teacher be ever learning then what must the herers of such a one be let the wise-hearted judge and I beleive and know that your hearers would soone beleive the same if the Preachers of truth might have liberty to speake when they come amongst you but if any come in that intent you are ready to set your people upon them to hale them out with force and also you have a law to cast them into Prison as many of us do witnesse at this day and therefore thou liar the convincing of your hearers of a better way is not your greatest care but rather your greatest feare least any should be drawne from you and so your trade come to faile as thou callest it but this I know is your greatest care that any body would shew you a better way to get mony by and also perswade your hearers into it or else thou thinks you are never the better and then you would leave interpreting the Scripture which now thou calles a good trade but thou Marchant of Babylon where doth any of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove or terme interpreting the Scripture a trade though you Marchants of Babylon make a trade of it to get lucre by and so call it a trade who think gaine is godliness but well may others accuse you for making a trade and a gaine of the Scriptures while you your selves confesse it and thus thou wrests the Scripture for thine own ends and paints thy work with Scripture for to make the ignorant believe it is grounded upon Scripture oh be ashamed to take it into thy mouth to make a trade of it which was freely spoken forth by the holy men of God as they was moved by the Holy-Ghost and thou makes the people believe it is of some private interpretation and so thou makes Marchandize of the people and so out of thy own mouth art judged to be a lier who before denied it Whether thou dost speake as thou art moved by the Holy-Ghost Que. 20 as they did who spoke forth the Scripture And in thy Answer thou sai'st that thou hast answered to this allready P. Ans that thou usually dost speake at the motion or assistance of the Holy-Ghost thou praises God for it But thou hypocrite I have also in this already proved thee a lier Reply 2 Cor. 4.4 and thy God to be the Father of lies who is the God of the blind world in which thou art a blind guide and an enemy to the Holy-Ghost where he is witnessed to rule and this James Parnel and those thou
was himselfe but a youth as Paul writes 1 Tim. 4.11.12 and there read thy rebuke Where did Christ or his Apostles send forth women to be publique prophetesses as you have don many and some of them not long since infamous for lewdnesse of life Qu. 86. Oh thou impudent one Answ how dost thou provoke the Lord to indignation against thee that darst lay any such thing to the Charge of Gods elect oh thou lier whom dost thou accuse of lewdnesse we abhor thy words for all lewdnesse and prophanesse we testify against wheresoever it doth appeare or any thing contrary to the pure divine light which now in thy conscience and many other consciences doth here witnesse for us against thee who art given up to beleivelies and report them therefore read thy portion in Rev. 21.8 and read an answer to thy Querie in Joel 2.28 where the Lord saith the sons and Daughters shall prophesy Rom. 16.1.2.3.4 and none other do we own but who immediately are caried forth by the Spirit of the Lord without the commission of man therefore thou falsly accusest us who saist we send forth any If you be extraordinary Prophets immediatly inspired as many of you pretend to be Qu. 87. where are the miracles which such inspired men wrought in times past But that we are so inspired thou dost not beleive Ans as may easily be discerned by thy Querying and therefore unto thee no signe shall be given who art in the adulterous generation who cannot see the signes that follow the truth Math. 16.4 What have you foretold by way of praediction Qu. 88. which hath accordingly come to passe as the Prophets Apostles and inspired men were wont to do If thou canst tax us to the contrary thou maist Answ we beare not witnesse of our selves but he that beleives hath the witnesse within himself And as for thy 89.90.91 and 92. Queries they are answered in my reply to thy answer to my 16. Querie and thy 93. Querie is answered in my answer to thy Query concerning Salutations Whether is a multitude of disciples and followers Que. 94. sure figne that his doctrine is from heaven who is followed seeing the way is broad that leads to destruction and many there be that find it and thou quotest Math. 7.13 and 2 Pet. 2.22 Many are called but few chofen Answ and many for a time followed Christ so that the ruler said if we let this fellow alone all men will goe after him which is the cry of you and your rulers now against the messengers of truth and hast thou never read of the multitudes that followed Christ but few there be that enter Iohn 11.48 Mat. 7.14 because strate is the Gate but devide England into parts and see if the greatest number belong not unto you who are in the broad way your lives preach you forth therefore now thou should have first asked thy self this Query and said Is it I and so have laid thy hand upon thy mouth Seeing this age is earthly-minded and willing to serve God Qu. 95. with that which costs them nothing contrary to the pious and noble spirit of David 2 Sam. 24.24 is it any great wonder that your doctrine against Tithes should find so many willing yea greedy entertayners of it as it hath done since it was first broached The more is your shame who are teachers in this age that are so earthly-minded Answ who have so long taken their monies for that which is not bread and their labour for that which profiteth not Isa 55.2 do you not herein manifest your selves to be such as run and the Lord never sent you Ier. 23.21.22.32 and therefore you profit not the people at all but they are still earthly-minded how have you then sowne spirituall things but I shall prove that the earthly-minded ones still stick unto you for you have a law made by the will of man so that if they refuse to pay you and forsake you then by it you cast them into prison and by your law take treble damage and this they know and therefore consult with their earthly mindes that it is better to pay the lesser then the greater there is much difference betwixt servings God and your bellies though the lesser is a greater oppression and thus mank deny the truth though they are convinced in their consciences thereof therefore that which leads any from you to take up this crosse to own the truth and deny you of Tithes the same crucifies the earthly mind and leade to suffer for conscience And the noble Spirit of David condemnes you for whereas he refused upon gift you will take upon gift and if they will not give it you you will take it by force therefore this Scripture affords witnesses against you but hereby thou confessest our doctrine costs them nothing then how said'st thou before that James Parnels Gospel was not without charge and thus out of thy own mouth art thou proved a liar Did ever Christ or the Apostles disturb the Priests and Ministers of these times Qu. 96. while they were teaching the people as many of you and yours have done Both the Prophets Christ and the Apostles Answ declared against the deceivers false Prophets Mat. 24.24 Ier. 23. Ezek. 34. Ioh. 10. Ier. 5.31 false Priests and Hirelings and the Apostles was haled out of the Synagogues and out of the Temple as Christ told them John 16.2 as we by the same spirit do now against you whom we finde in the same steps and here thou art answered if this be it thou callest disturbance but it is because you would bear rule by your means and suffer nothing to be published that is against you or strikes at your Diana Doth the Gospel ordinarily call any man from his lawful Calling Qu 97. whereby he should maintain himself and his Family and thou quotest 1 Cor. 7 20. Eph. 4.28 Yea it doth and the Scripture holds forth the same that they was ordinarily called from their outward Callings Answ to preach the Gospel to every Creature Amos. 7.14.15 Mark 16.15 Math. 4.18.19.20.21.22.23 neither doth either of these Scriptures which thou hast quoted prove to the contrary how many Scriptures didst thou quote in thy Answer to my 15th Query to prove that the Ministers of the Gospel might forbear working and not to entangle themselves with the affairs of this life yet in all could not prove thy selfe a Minister of the Gospel and now thou questions the truth of the Scripture because neither thou nor thy Brethren was called according to Scripture but whomsoever the Lord calls unto his work he doth take care both for him and his Family but you that are not called by him dare not trust him without a Law of man And in thy 98. 99. Query 2. Thes 3. Mat. ●8 7 thou seems to accuse us with some that turned from the truth